Ben: I don't understand at all how people can think love is a waste of time. Its a concept I don't understand in the slightest. To me love is everything, it's the reason for being imo.

I think that you are talking with some people who have gotten hurt and aren't over it.

Ben: *sigh* I don't know...maybe I shouldn't let people's cynicism and jadedness bother me

That's true. It's hard not to though.

The problem with angry, bitter people is that it seems that they feel compelled to share.

That was really beautiful, Ben. I'm glad that I'm not the only hopeless romantic left out there in this cruel, jaded world.

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Oh Ben! You are such a beautiful, teriffic, amazing person

I couldn't have said it better myself! I sure wish I had been in on that debate though! Grrrr! Why do I miss all the good ones? .....hmm maybe because I don't go into chat that often

I am loved by my parents, who were loved by their parents and so on, so I am a product of love. When I have kids, they'll be a result of love between Seb and I and thus our love will be passed on...how can that be a waste of time?

That is such a beautiful image!

maybe I shouldn't let people's cynicism and jadedness bother me, but it does, because I feel like they're wasting an oppourtunity...

I think it's okay for it to bother you, it bothers me too, besides hehehe if we can turn just one life around

I believe in love, and love saved my life, and love is what makes me get up in the mornings, and love is there at 3am when I'm overwhelmed by everything and when the world is dark and full of the things that scare me, and when I can't look at myself in the mirror, because the darkness is in me...love is there for me...

aww I'm sorry you went through stuff like that (**sigh** who hasn't though ), but it definitely shows what a strong, good person you are that you've come through it all untainted.

I think people who speak against love are not always saying what they truly feel. I think they are sometimes trying to hide that they really do hope for love. Maybe they are afraid they will be thought of as idealistic

*smiles and hugs you* you are a great person you know, was telling Luc how I don't think you have a bad bone in your body. I think you argued the point of love in chat last night well enough that i was happy to watch rather than join in. But i do agree with you and i am not what people would class as a hopeless romantic. When i'm not living in my head I can be very cynical about things but i always manage to cling to the fact that love is what makes everything worth it.

I get how people feel the need to hide from love as in the relationship sense and sometimes that is what they need to do but i hope they don't shut themselves off from the other kinds of love. That thought is scary because there is no point in life without love, i learnt that from 11 to 15 when i was alone and had no one who loved me and it's a desperately lonely place to be so it is hard to understand why people would choose t place themselves in that kind of situation.

But then i think when people are cynical about love they are talking about it in the context of a romantic relationship and sometimes they just need time or to meet the right person before they see that love is not a waste of time. What scares me are the people who ar so against love that they close off to any oppurtunity around them. A few people here give off that kind of feeling, like they have given up on ever finding anyone and it is painful to see because you know that they could be very happy if they opened up.

But at the same time i get the fear that people have, i didn't believe in love when i was still a child because my family didn't love me so I had no expectation or hope of finding love from elsewhere. I think that is the important thing, you loose hope and faith in other people, you expect everyone to turn around and hurt you and those wounds take time to heal. But if you let it then love can do that, there was a time I would have been arguing against what you posted but then i met someone who saved me from myself just by loving me.

But it isn't easy, no relationship where love is involved is, because ultimately you will hurt eachother somewhere along the way because we hurt the ones we love. But there are levels of hurt and most relationships can work through them to be happy.

Sometimes the pain we experience through loving someone is worth it and sometimes we have to walk away and it does at times feel like it will kill you but sometimes it takes letting someone else in to help heal those wounds.

ok i have finished rambling

Mark

Thanks for the responses guys! It's really great to see that there actually are people out there who believe in love. I feel like Tinkerbell, after nobody believes in fairies, but then people start clapping...*ahem* you get my point.

The problem with angry, bitter people is that it seems that they feel compelled to share.

Yes, why is that?! That'd be like saying 'I have the flu left me breathe on you and pass on some germs' No thank you...people can keep it.

That was really beautiful, Ben. I'm glad that I'm not the only hopeless romantic left out there in this cruel, jaded world.

Thanks David :blush: ...it seems there are actually a few of us around...

I think people who speak against love are not always saying what they truly feel. I think they are sometimes trying to hide that they really do hope for love. Maybe they are afraid they will be thought of as idealistic

My favourite bit.

"you can cover your face with your hands your whole life and never see or feel anything, but you could move your hands, and ok, so maybe you'll get slapped, but maybe you'll get kissed instead? And surely thats worth the risk? Love is so special and so amazing, that isn't it worth the risk?"

Very true and inspiring.

Not everyone will be happy and open to love, there's not much you can do about that, and if everyone was happy, how would you know what was happy and would you be satisfied with it?

Love is a bitch, when it's on your side all is great, when the bitch turns though it hurts, but if you don't take the risk of hurt then you'll never reach the highest of heights. (god that all sounds so sappy)

Not everyone will be happy and open to love, there's not much you can do about that, and if everyone was happy, how would you know what was happy and would you be satisfied with it?

 

Love is a bitch, when it's on your side all is great, when the bitch turns though it hurts, but if you don't take the risk of hurt then you'll never reach the highest of heights. (god that all sounds so sappy)

There's nothing wrong with sappy at all. And I know what you mean, but I dunno, I'd like everyone to at least take the chance to be happy...