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    For the Love of Dane

    I'm glad you enjoyed this one, Bft. Transitioning in 1952? WOW. Well, that's wild. I can't imagine the kind of hell she got for that. But it goes to prove how important living authentically is. If she was willing to walk that path in 1952, then she didn't really have a choice. I wish more understood that. Thanks for the information. I'll look her up.
    2 hours ago, Bft said:

    Thanks @Wayne Grayposting this story, I have learnt a bit more about trans people, I remember watching the movie of the Christine Jorgensen story a number of years ago, she was the first person to transition from a male to a female she started her journey to transition in 1952, if you can find the movie on You Tube it’s well worth watching. 

    I'm glad you enjoyed this one, Bft.

    Transitioning in 1952? WOW. Well, that's wild. I can't imagine the kind of hell she got for that. But it goes to prove how important living authentically is. If she was willing to walk that path in 1952, then she didn't really have a choice. I wish more understood that.

    Thanks for the information. I'll look her up.

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thanks, tesao. Yes, it forces some reflection and that’s the goal. I’m glad it worked! 🙂
    3 hours ago, tesao said:

    A very sensitive story that provoked a lot of thought and reflection. Beautifully done.

    Thanks, tesao. Yes, it forces some reflection and that’s the goal. I’m glad it worked! 🙂

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thanks, Tom. And yes, it'd have to be an adjustment for everyone involved. That's what I was going for here - showing that struggle for someone close to our transitioning Dane. I'm glad his attempt to deal constructively appealed. 🙂
    9 hours ago, Hawgdad said:

    Damn, Wayne...  I had sense enough to realize transition is multi, multi-faceted, but you've opened a tier beyond anything ever considered.  You've already broadened my horizons on this, so educate me even more!

    Thanks, Tom.

    And yes, it'd have to be an adjustment for everyone involved. That's what I was going for here - showing that struggle for someone close to our transitioning Dane. I'm glad his attempt to deal constructively appealed. 🙂

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thanks, Zeke. It can be scary to write something not directly within my personal experience. Some stuff I can research and get close, and this was one of those. Still, there are undoubtedly little errors and mistakes in the telling. Where I didn't get something quite right. I did my best. I wrote it because I wanted people to think about the process someone has to go through. The leap someone has to take. The trust they'd have to have in their partner, or their willingness to say goodbye if
    20 minutes ago, ZekeNix said:

    Wayne:

    I'm glad you are enjoying the short story format, your fans certainly are!

    Someday I hope to experience some of the magic of Camp Refuge, even if only part of it is real.

    You masterfully, and bravely wrote a story we don't hear often:  a married couple faces an apparent fundamental change in who one of them is.  As others have said, I hope we hear from them again some time down the road.  

    Zeke

    Thanks, Zeke.

    It can be scary to write something not directly within my personal experience. Some stuff I can research and get close, and this was one of those. Still, there are undoubtedly little errors and mistakes in the telling. Where I didn't get something quite right. I did my best. I wrote it because I wanted people to think about the process someone has to go through. The leap someone has to take. The trust they'd have to have in their partner, or their willingness to say goodbye if they absolutely had to, just to live authentically. And I wanted to show some of what their partner would have to go through as well.

    I like how it turned out. I think Dane and Brandon are going to be fine down the road.

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thanks, Story Reader. 🙂 Ultimately we're all just people. We're all trying to find our own paths to happiness, and maybe someone to share that path too. Dane needed to be himself, even if it cost him Brandon. He didn't want it to, but he'd gotten to the point where he had to finally come out to the man he loves. Then you've got Brandon. He's reeling, but he's willing to try life with Dane instead of Dana. I'm glad it made you think and empathize. That's the goal.
    2 hours ago, Story Reader said:

    This story was a breath of fresh air! Not many people will write about this subject. Trans people get the worse end of the deal where the public is concerned and that is so wrong. They have feelings too and want a relationship with someone. The way you wrote it makes people see what they go through and if their partners go through with them. Point on, Wayne! I love it! I love being a female and always have but I have dreamed what it would be like to be a man and what they feel inside and how it would feel like to have sex with the same sex as a man or with a female. I love that Brandon said at the end that Dane was not his wife but his husband. That told me they will make it. Great job, my friend!

    Thanks, Story Reader. 🙂

    Ultimately we're all just people. We're all trying to find our own paths to happiness, and maybe someone to share that path too. Dane needed to be himself, even if it cost him Brandon. He didn't want it to, but he'd gotten to the point where he had to finally come out to the man he loves. Then you've got Brandon. He's reeling, but he's willing to try life with Dane instead of Dana.

    I'm glad it made you think and empathize. That's the goal.

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thanks, Jeffrey! Maybe they will show up again in a few months. I like the format of these little stories, in that it doesn't take a huge commitment of time for me to finish one. I just need an idea, and then a few days later I can have a chapter/story done. I expect you're right. I think they'll be okay. Love allows for a lot, and they've got it. 🙂
    5 hours ago, JeffreyL said:

    Gender can be a sensitive topic for some people. Your characters were engaging, and you wrote their story with empathy and understanding. Nicely done, Wayne! I really think Brandon and Dane should plan to go camping next spring so we can all catch up on how they are doing. I expect things will be going mostly OK because they love each other so much! Thanks.

    Thanks, Jeffrey!

    Maybe they will show up again in a few months. I like the format of these little stories, in that it doesn't take a huge commitment of time for me to finish one. I just need an idea, and then a few days later I can have a chapter/story done.

    I expect you're right. I think they'll be okay. Love allows for a lot, and they've got it. 🙂

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    For the Love of Dane

    I really wanted to show that part - the partner dealing with the transition of the person they love. Brandon's dealing with something he'd never anticipated, and you're right about the shock! He certainly was shocked right out of the gate. I don't mean to present this as "everything is fine and it all will be". However, it can be fine, and it can continue to be with work. A lot of communication from both parties, maybe time in couple's counseling, and just good old fashioned time. Yet,
    30 minutes ago, Clancy59 said:

    This was an incredibly interesting story.  There are certainly stories about people who transition, or at least present themselves as the other sex, but very seldom do stories present how the families/friends of the person feel or deal with the situation.

    Brandon was presented with a situation that he never, in his wildest dreams, expected to have to deal with.  It’s amazing that he was able react as calmly as he did.  I think he was in shock! The fact that he was willing to look for information and help IMMEDIATELY says a lot about his character, his relationship with and his feelings for Dana, now Dane.  He’s not 100% sure he can do this, and he is open and upfront about this with Dane, but he certainly has a good shot at it as a result of his actions thus far.

    Good luck, you two!

    I really wanted to show that part - the partner dealing with the transition of the person they love.

    Brandon's dealing with something he'd never anticipated, and you're right about the shock! He certainly was shocked right out of the gate.

    I don't mean to present this as "everything is fine and it all will be". However, it can be fine, and it can continue to be with work. A lot of communication from both parties, maybe time in couple's counseling, and just good old fashioned time. Yet, Dane's courage to come out, and Brandon's willingness to try are both critical for them to move forward.

    Thanks, Clancy! 🙂

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thanks, Chris. I do think they'll make it. Sure, they've got lots of work ahead, but that's okay. Anything worth having is worth working for. I'm glad you liked it!
    5 minutes ago, chris191070 said:

    You've done it again Wayne, brought tears to my eyes.

    This is a lovely sweet story that is full of love and acceptance. The last line was just perfect, they have along way to go, but I think Brandon and Dane will be OK.

    Thanks, Chris.

    I do think they'll make it. Sure, they've got lots of work ahead, but that's okay. Anything worth having is worth working for. I'm glad you liked it!

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thanks for the comments, Tony. Concerning the rapid acceptance ... you're right - it takes time to accept. Brandon is in the earliest part of that process. He's trying, and he knows how important it is for Dane to see he's trying. But again, he isn't finished yet. He has a long way to go, but the message here is that he's willing to start the process. That's what Dane needed, and Brandon is going to do everything he can to give Dane what he needs. As for the labels - I spoke to a few t
    4 minutes ago, pvtguy said:

    First of all, I love nearly all you have written - I just am not as big on stories about other life forms (as I wrote to you before)...but even that was very well written. 

    Now, as to this chapter:  in that Brandon was able to process so quickly is amazing, but with all the labels out there, he doesn't have to assume that he is either gay or bi, does he?  He loves Dana/Dane as a person - not as a sexual "choice".  He loves the person and wants to continue the relationship with its changes.  Isn't that what marriage is all about:  growing and changing with each other through the years and deciding to be with one another as a daily commitment? 

    Your writing is excellent as usual.

    Tony

    Thanks for the comments, Tony.

    Concerning the rapid acceptance ... you're right - it takes time to accept. Brandon is in the earliest part of that process. He's trying, and he knows how important it is for Dane to see he's trying. But again, he isn't finished yet. He has a long way to go, but the message here is that he's willing to start the process. That's what Dane needed, and Brandon is going to do everything he can to give Dane what he needs.

    As for the labels - I spoke to a few trans friends about this. And turns out, it's pretty important to the three I spoke to. Maybe my sample size isn't big enough, but ... yes. It's important, at least to some.

    That said, Brandon does love Dane the person. And for him, part of that may include accepting the label that reinforces who Dane is.

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thank you, tim. you're right. It's all about love. There's this moment, where Brandon is struggling to process, and he see how upset Dane is. And his concern wasn't for himself, it was for his partner. I wanted to show his deep need for Dane to be happy, even while in the midst of his own shock. you're also right about what they've built with one another - and neither wants to give up the work they've done, and the progress they've made in building a loving union. Brandon is going to t
    1 minute ago, Mikiesboy said:

    i am reminded of many things when i read this ... but it boils down to love. Yes, moving forward will be hard but is giving up the love you've made together easy?

    it isn't .. that i know about. 

    I think you did a great job with this story.  i think your people will be okay, because if you're willing to work together and love each other, anything is possible.

    Thank you, tim.

    you're right. It's all about love. There's this moment, where Brandon is struggling to process, and he see how upset Dane is. And his concern wasn't for himself, it was for his partner. I wanted to show his deep need for Dane to be happy, even while in the midst of his own shock. you're also right about what they've built with one another - and neither wants to give up the work they've done, and the progress they've made in building a loving union.

    Brandon is going to try and be the man Dane needs, and the reverse is just as true. I think it'll be hard, but that they'll be okay.

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    For the Love of Dane

    Thank you, drsawzall. Brandon had to do some fast adjusting, and he still has a lot more ahead. They both do. But as anybody who has experienced it knows, love can do amazing things. 🙂
    7 minutes ago, drsawzall said:

    Simply a well told powerful tale of love and acceptance, well done and thank you!

    Thank you, drsawzall.

    Brandon had to do some fast adjusting, and he still has a lot more ahead. They both do. But as anybody who has experienced it knows, love can do amazing things. 🙂

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    Gus

    Thanks, Bft! I'm happy you enjoyed the boys, and their journey together. Having great parents certainly helps them along too!
    22 minutes ago, Bft said:

    This story is just so sweet, who could not love Harry and Gus, I am pleased that both boys have amazing and excepting parents. 🌈🌈🌈❤️❤️

    Thanks, Bft!

    I'm happy you enjoyed the boys, and their journey together. Having great parents certainly helps them along too!

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    Harry

    Thanks for the great comments, Tony! Yes, we can all use a refuge right about now, eh? But I do think you're right. We can escape for a while and go someplace safer, sweeter, and nicer. That's the goal with these stories. Gus was a godsend to Harry and his parents too. And all of the parents did exactly as they should, lending support to their kids as they needed it. I really do believe that Dan and Laura did the perfect thing by taking Harry to the campground. James had it right when
    5 hours ago, Anton_Cloche said:

    Wayne, Thank goodness you're back!

    Love the idea of a Refuge from the madness of the world, especially since spring 2020 when it all went sideways. Unfortunately it seems we're stuck on this track for a while. Which is why your (and others author's) stories are so important.

    In this time where we're seeing reports of children in distress (of all types), depressed, even suicidal (highest rates of suicide are in the 10 to 17 age group!!), Refuge stories give us all, but especially young people,  hope and inspiration.

    Harry 'finds' himself through his interactions with Gus; enough that on the ride home he tearfully comes out to his parents (who suspected) and thankfully reacted the way parents should.

    I look forward to occasional visits to the camp and perhaps the reappearance of former residents (young truck driver, cook, ex-navy, 'mobster' and more) taking a vacation.

    Thank You.

    Tony (Anton) 

    Thanks for the great comments, Tony!

    Yes, we can all use a refuge right about now, eh? But I do think you're right. We can escape for a while and go someplace safer, sweeter, and nicer. That's the goal with these stories.

    Gus was a godsend to Harry and his parents too. And all of the parents did exactly as they should, lending support to their kids as they needed it. I really do believe that Dan and Laura did the perfect thing by taking Harry to the campground. James had it right when he said that alone would show Harry how they felt, and that they loved and supported him, all without having to say it.

    There's more to come for our campers. I hope you enjoy the rest too. 🙂

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    Harry

    Thanks, David! I'm glad you enjoyed this little short story. And ... there's a little continuation of it in chapter three, though it's mainly told from the perspective of Gus. Well ... and a pair of crazy parents too. Hahaha. You'll see what I mean. You take care as well. It's Friday!
    10 minutes ago, KayDeeMac said:

    Well I just half to add my 2-cents worth also - it's great to see Camp Refuge back in the line-up Wayne!  Your writing is superb -  painting emotions that really resonate with us readers!  Glad to see you back and hopefully doing well during these very "trying times" !!!  Take care my friend, David.

    Thanks, David!

    I'm glad you enjoyed this little short story. And ... there's a little continuation of it in chapter three, though it's mainly told from the perspective of Gus. Well ... and a pair of crazy parents too. Hahaha. You'll see what I mean.

    You take care as well. It's Friday!

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    Gus

    Awww, good. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for reading and commenting tesao!
    14 minutes ago, tesao said:

    That made me so happy!

    Awww, good. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for reading and commenting tesao!

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    Gus

    Thanks, molly! And thanks for reading the section with the boys texting. 🙂 I like the short format too. It's not a huge time investment for anybody, and I still get to write. It's fun (at least it's fun for me!).
    5 minutes ago, mollyhousemouse said:

    What a wonderful way to unwind after work yesterday! So glad these little vignettes keep popping up.

    Thanks, molly! And thanks for reading the section with the boys texting. 🙂

    I like the short format too. It's not a huge time investment for anybody, and I still get to write. It's fun (at least it's fun for me!).

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    Gus

    Thanks, spyke. 🙂 You're right about the "really young" statement. But we'll have to see how they go. But I still remember my "first" and I always will. So they've got that going for them, at any rate. Those goofball dads were fun to write. And you gotta wonder ... if James had pulled out Chardonnay, would he have gotten a sloppy kiss from Dan? Hrmm... lol
    15 minutes ago, spyke said:

    It's always great to visit Camp Refuge and we got a update on Harry and Gus!  They're sweet together and hopefully it will last, but they're really young. Guess we'll have to wait and see (subtle hint there @Wayne Gray) The 2 dads are funny as heck and could have easily become scene stealers. What a nice pre-weekend treat. Thanks Wayne!

    Thanks, spyke. 🙂

    You're right about the "really young" statement. But we'll have to see how they go. But I still remember my "first" and I always will. So they've got that going for them, at any rate.

    Those goofball dads were fun to write. And you gotta wonder ... if James had pulled out Chardonnay, would he have gotten a sloppy kiss from Dan?

    Hrmm... lol

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    Gus

    I think I understand what you're asking now. If I have any stories set in Camp Refuge which can fit into the "short story" format, yes. They'll appear here. Will these be the only stories left to tell in the campground? Hrm. I don't know about that one. If I hit upon a new storyline that works and needs a longer format, then I'll write it apart from the CR Shorts.
    44 minutes ago, Clancy59 said:

    I understand this is a continuation of previous story.  What I am asking is if you are going to use this ‘story line’ for all your new short stories.  For example, Joe and Jake’s story is unrelated to Harry and Gus’, but they are in the same story line, instead of starting a new story for each one.

    I think I understand what you're asking now.

    If I have any stories set in Camp Refuge which can fit into the "short story" format, yes. They'll appear here. Will these be the only stories left to tell in the campground? Hrm. I don't know about that one. If I hit upon a new storyline that works and needs a longer format, then I'll write it apart from the CR Shorts.

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