Jackson: Not Guilty on All counts

[Myr]

For those following... MJ is not guilty on all counts.

[BoyNeedsTherapy]

We just watched it on the news here...we're a little suprised to say the least.

[NaperVic]

We just watched it on the news here...we're a little suprised to say the least.

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I thought they would at least have found him guilty of serving alcohol to minors :-(

[Masked Monkey]

I thought they would at least have found him guilty of serving alcohol to minors :-(

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I think the problem with that count was that as charged, it was for the purpose of molesting them, thus, if the jury believed he didn't do it to try to molest them (or didn't do it) then they had to come back NG.

 

:king: Snow Dog

[Myr]

Most likely. I saw more than enough reasonable doubt as little as I was paying attention.

 

Don't get me wrong... MJ is most certainly a freak... but that doesn't mean he abuses children.

[lagomorph]

Don't get me wrong... MJ is most certainly a freak... but that doesn't mean he abuses children.

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I'm glad to hear someone say that. You wouldn't believe how many times I've heard, "Well, I don't know if he molested this particular kid or not, but I'm sure he did SOMETHING." Isn't that an interesting insight into how people think our justice system should work.

 

Val

[GREEN]

I have a friend who said that same exact line to me today. But you know Guilty until proven innocent right?

[Sugarmag]

I am not suprised he was found not guilty. There didn't seem to be very credible evidence he molested any children, but he is not right in the head. I for one would never leave a child alone with him EVER!!

 

Mag

[Masked Monkey]

This is starting to get to me ... the whole 'innocent until proven guilty' invovles the govenment and the government's ability to deprive a person of liberty and property. It has absolutely nothing to do with how individuals treat one another, just as the 1st Amendment does not apply in the parent/child relationship or the workplace environment.

 

Regardless of what the results of a jury trial says, I am free to say it is my opinion that the man has molested boys, and probably this boy. I am not the governement, I cannot deprive Mr. Jackson of freedom or property, and unless he can prove the statement is false I am free from slander (lible). That said, he is also free to live his life and pursue his career as he sees fit, provided he stays within the bounds of the law and away from any of the minor children in my family (although being of European descent, my family doesn't quote fit his target demographic).

 

Just my opinion

 

:king: Snow Dog

[Pyro]

I look at it like this: Do I think that he did something, I don't know maybe, maybe not, BUT I do NOT belive that the evidence showed it. I do not belive that the prosecution proved their case.

 

Also I had problems for a while in beliveing who did what because there were so many lies going on. The boy and his brother changed their story at 3 times. The mother told the police one thing, the grand jury something different then again said somthing differernt in court.

 

They also had 2 or 3 boys testify saying that they had stayed with MJ on many occasions and nothing ever happened. I saw an interview with them on CNN or MSNBC or one of them and that is when the boys said that nothing ever happened. They also said that the boy who accused MJ had problems and liked to cause a lot of problems and they saw his mom doing the same thing.

 

The same boy who accused MJ also accused his own parents of child abuse.

 

The sister had problems with her mother as well and was in debt or some other problem. So whether MJ did something or not I don't know. I just know that the evidence didn't show it and that he had a fair trial.

 

They did say that 2 or 3 of the jours were crying and that none of them would like at MJ, some of the reporters said that that was bad for MJ and then they came back with the NG verdict.

 

They they said that the reason why they were crying and not looking at MJ was because it is possible that they belived that MJ did something BUT the prosecution didn't prove the case.

 

Who knows, and right now I don't care. It is over let the man live in peace. I do belive that he needs to sell Neverland and move away from there and make sure that he is never alone with any child again.

 

Pyro :-)

[JSmith]

I agree with you on that one, Pyro. I think the jury provided the right verdict in this case. Not because MJ is innocent, but because there was a reasonable doubt. I think the guy is a creep and think that he has molested childen, maybe even this one, but the prosecutors failed to prove that this boy was molested.

 

And you can't really say he didn't have an unjust trial. The jury deliberated for what was it, 5 days? I think they truly made their decision based on the evidence provided and not what they thought about the guy.

[Masked Monkey]

The jury deliberated for what was it, 5 days?

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I believe it was 7 days (1 full week, plus a partial first and last day) for 32 hours.

 

I never said the jury returned the 'wrong' verdict for this case. I got to follow it daily on my drive home from one of the best trial reporters I have ever heard, and I knew the verdict was obvious. My only hope was for a hung jury on some of the counts.

 

:king: Snow Dog

[wep363]

I think that we are missing the POINT. This Man has thrown his life away. Jacko had it all.

 

I worked 64 hours last week just to survive! I'm one year younger than MJ and he has lived the life I have dreamed about since the first time i heard Ben, (MJ first number one hit.) Tell you the truth. at that time, i was more into Donny Osmand!

 

At the time of the first accuser in 1993 he had a 150 million a year contract with pepsi and was playing the superbowl! He then paid $23 million (which is $7 million more than OJ paid for killing two people) to shut him up - and then he goes down the same road? This dumby lost a BILLION dollars in the last 10 years, and he is still sleeping with boys? with constant hard on's, wine, and porn handy?

 

Whether or not he is guilty or not has been settled but i have to tell you. He is stupid! He should come work for me in fast food for a few weeks living in a boarding house on $5.15 an hour as his sentence from throwing all that money away.

[lagomorph]

Some excerpts from an AP story:

 

Because of public perceptions, Jackson will have to change his lifestyle. "He's going to have to not let people easily enter his life. He was very generous to people who didn't deserve it," Mesereau [Jackson's lawyer] said.

 

As for letting children sleep in his bed, "he's not going to do that because it makes him vulnerable to false charges."

 

 

Some jurors indicated that they were inclined to believe Jackson had such a past, but that it did not prove the current allegations against Jackson.

 

"He's just not guilty of the crimes he's been charged with," said Ray Hultman, who told the AP he was one of three people on the 12-member jury who voted to acquit after the others persuaded them there was reasonable doubt. "He probably has molested boys at some point."

 

Two other jurors and one alternate who appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America" raised their hands when asked if they thought Jackson may have molested other children but not the 2003 accuser.

 

"We had our suspicions, but we couldn't judge on that because it wasn't what we were there to do," said Eleanor Cook, 79.

[movieguy47]

I believe that the D.A. had a weak case, he didn't look into the background of the family(the mother is being look at for welfare fraud right now, not counting the J.C. Penny's case that was a factor in the past, thank to daddy-o)

 

maybe the boy was molested, we don't know for sure, since the mother has upset the jury!

 

and the video of the boy when he was younger may had played a big part in the verdict, because they may have look at what he said on the stand, and what was on the tape?

 

but i did notice that the d.a. both time in the last 12 years heard from family that took money, or wanted money(which i believe this family wanted, except that they didn't need monies since it was already taken care of before the family met him?)

 

all cases seem to involved money, no one that didn't need money spoken up?

 

and yes as Bill said, he threw his life away, after the first case. he should had stop, but didn't. i will go on record saying, i think he will leave the u.s. and go where they don't care for nothing he does, just so he bring money to the country he go to

 

money talk, you know the rest

[Sugarmag]

It is my understanding that MJ is in debt up to his eyeballs now. I know he was looking to sell the copyrights to the Beatles songs he bought out from under Paul McCartney. Hmmmm...Poetic Justice.

 

Mag

[RTJ]

My personal belief is that he is a total whackaloon full blown freakjob... That being said, I think the jury did what it was supposed to do. There was resonable doubt so MJ was spared. He'll try to make a comeback album because he needs money, and that'll be the end of this drama cycle.

[movieguy47]

Here is a links to Drudge

 

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3mjn.htm

[Guest electroken]

Hi guys my name is Ken and I am new here but have followed the Michael Jackson trial with a lot of interest.

I am also surprised that the jury let him off on this completely and didnt find him guilty about the alcohol at least. He is guilty of very bad judgement for sure and I feel he is very immature and does a lot of things that someone who is really an adult wouldnt do. I am sure he would never harm a kid intentionally but some of the things he does are at least bizzaar and do put him in a bad light at the very least. I will not judge him on this one for having any kind of sex with those boys. He may have done some things but I feel he is surely immature in a lot of ways and is someone to be thought of as a tragic figure. All his millions have not made him happy as I think he lost his childhood and wants to live it any way he can. We should feel sorry for this guy becasue he has never been able to really grow up.

Like I say, I can sympathize with what MJ does becasue I was a lot like him; I was sexually active as a boy and did a lot in the lifestyle until about 25 years ago. I recognize that what MJ and I have in common is a sort of "arrested development" that means that we just didnt grow up as mature sexual adults and still have childish attractions which should have been replaced with love for another adult at some time.

Someday I will have to write a story about it or at least write down as much about myself as I can and then try to have one of you who are real authors ghost write it for me. I have a lot to say but I dont have so much ability to be able to tell my story in a readable manner.

Anyway thanks for letting me in here to say my piece.

[lurker]

Is this REALLY news? Sheesh...

 

Doesn't anyone have anything better to worry about?

[reapersharvest]

If it were just OJ Simpson, or just Robert Blake, or just Michael Jackson I might not think that celebrity gives one carte blanche to commit terrible crimes.

 

 

If it were just Michael Jackson, just the Catholic Church, or just the American Boychoir, I might not think that child molestation is the new yoga.

[Masked Monkey]

For years now I have done my unwavering best to avoid serving on a jury, and I have lots of good and honest reasons for not taking the time, but with the result of this case, Blake and the 1st Heidel (Orange County Gang Rape) trail, I now understand that it goes beyond responsibility and reaches the level of DUTY for people with a spine and above average intelligence to serve on a jury.

 

So, from now on, I will not avoid jury duty.

 

:king: Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

[lurker]

For years now I have done my unwavering best to avoid serving on a jury, and I have lots of good and honest reasons for not taking the time, but with the result of this case, Blake and the 1st Heidel (Orange County Gang Rape) trail, I now understand that it goes beyond responsibility and reaches the level of DUTY for people with a spine and above average intelligence to serve on a jury.

 

So, from now on, I will not avoid jury duty.

 

:king: Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

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If the evidence wasn't there to convict, then it doesn't feel any better to realize this from the vantage point of the jury box.

 

It would be nice if more people with a spine and above average intelligence served on juries. That said, there is a reason that people who have a spine and intelligence get knocked off the list by one side or the other. Depending on my case, I may love to have you as a juror or I might make sure you have no chance of making the jury. But I suspect that if it was the former, the other side would have you off before I could blink.

 

The sad reality is that too many people shirk this important civic duty, but the system isn't really set up to favor selection of the backbone bearing intelligentsia.

[Pyro]

As for serving on a jury I had done that once before and I didn't try to get out of it BUT if I can now I would. I no longer believe in the justice system or the usa government. I feel that our rights are being taken away and I feel that we are becoming a communistic, dictatorship of a country.

 

I have nothing agianst the military I have friends in there and they are doing what they are told from teh idiot in the white house and the idiots in teh us capital.

 

I no longer feel respect for this country and I no longer feel proud to be an american.

 

Pyro :-)

[JoleChristopher]

i just cant believe twelve adults got him off

 

sorry if i offend any one but i couldnt resist.