KJames

I'm sort of lucky, I guess...none of mine are "fit" for public viewing...due to the language of the result...

I jump in with good wishes for both his diagnosis and his coming out. Hopefully his "Crohn's" will turn out to be a bout of diverticulitis instead. (He'll just have to stop eating seeds and nuts instead of wheat gluten based products, that way.)

I'm gonna be dropping a note to Tim and Codey's grandfather at Codey's World...the day after this coming New Year's would have been Codey's 19th birthday, and I want to let them know that they aren't alone in missing him.

Or California?

Hearing Ian moan, Alan lazily awoke, yearning anxiously. B A S T I O N S

Are you trying to tell us that the crutches were a result of the early manifestation of symptoms of this infection?

Death, early, always throws hearts broken, even distant. A F T E R A L L

It sounds like he's telling you that he's not giving up on you as a friend--or that he's still counting you as one. Only he knows for sure, but that's what it sounds like based on the fact that he's also willing to give his ex- another chance. And you haven't said where you live in your profile, but if I suspect, you will probably frequent the same bars and clubs...so, yeah, you'll probably be seeing a lot of him.... Take a guide from lots of the stories here, let him see you looking, longingly at him with others, and let him see you leave the places... Yes they will (and, no, it won't), it'll take time. You'll always remember, that's what makes true love difficult...letting go when "your" 'one' isn't ready. That's always a possibility, I suppose, however slim...if the attraction was there, it'll always be there, he's just the kind of guy you're looking for and nothing will change that...for you. I doubt that Nathan would connect letting you back into his life as a friend with not feeling attracted to him--at this point in his life, it seems he is willing to let his ex- try again because Nathan seems to be the forgiving type. In the same vein, I doubt that he would hold your attraction to him against you as a reason for not letting the friendship re-establish itself. See my last paragraph... He may have been sorry more because he valued you and your honesty more, and was willing to keep you, as a treasured, valuable, true friend, without holding your feelings against you. You chose the words, "walk out"...very powerful. Did you intend, then, to give up such a valuable friend? What, then, when he initiates the reconnect? When and if he needs to talk to his "best" friend, what then? Although he's trying to get back with his ex-, remember, he's been portrayed as the forgiving type, it still doesn't sound like he broke away. It still sounds like he wants the lover he thought he had, and all the friends he's had. Sounds like words spoken by someone willing to be a true friend, no matter what. Time tests all things, time heals all wounds... An old saying, but true...time also builds and strengthens. But the true test is yours to take...you have to ask to be let back in. Then the test becomes one of friendship...if he's as forgiving as you've portrayed him, all should be well and you'll both be, at least, friends again. Along with another chance if his ex- breaks up with him again...Nathan sounds like the forgiving type, but his ex- seems to be the one using a revolving door... Remember, Treefrog, be patient and don't give up, be kind and repair your friendship--it will make all the difference in the world to both of you--and will help him to realize, later when his ex- breaks up again, that love isn't something he needs to go searching for when true love stares him right in the face: Love is patient and kind; Love is not jealous, or conceited, or proud, or provoked; Love does not keep a record of wrongs; Love is not happy with evil, but is pleased with the truth. Love never gives up; its faith, hope, and patience never fail...

Here's why my husband says I'm Jewish by injection... What's the point of asking a question if you get no answers?

HAHAHA! That's easy...Hot August Nights...(with apologies to Neil Diamond) I can always take off my shirt and wear shorts...while awake...and sleeping is definitely cooler because I....ahem... Getting back to the questioning vein of this thread...... WYR a violently abused child run away from home, seeking rescue, coming to you to report to the police immediately upon its occurence, or anonymously report abuse you see happen in public? (Sorry for the complex question structure and the hard topic the last few queries)

Boy, would I! Two things I'd handle VERY differently! Or, should I say, "Two guys I'd definitely ask out!" Can I be first?

My...now isn't "Lollipop" an interesting word, Dolores...hmmm... Larry's only leverage left Ian palpitating over Perry. Here's a real test (of sorts): T E S T I C L E

I'd rather do anyting than get kicked in the nuts...the first time that happened I was in 5th grade and couldn't stand up for an hour... Okay, Tiger, this one's for you, since you're taking nearly every thread on this: WYR Explain the rules and procedures of play for "Werewolf" or get back on track?

Hey, Robbie, you must've had a lot of spare time on your hands, that or your mouth really is biggerr... ...I joined 3 days prior to you and haven't been able to keep up...at all...by a long shot...

Part of one that WORKS for free! AND, Kanaye, since you responded so nicely to my "20-30 boys" question...the reason I threw that in there was all of the stories of child abuse here and at CW really got me to thinking what could happen if we could all adopt an abused child that needed a home... in that vein... Given the ability to do so, would you rather adopt one abused boy or would you rather adopt several?

Okay, J.Ross...I'm hooked....the feelings you've got Jake wrapped up in are what I had to go through alone during High School...so the story resonates deeply...but I had to do it without friends--Southern Orange County just didn't have the right climate for coming out in school back in the late '70's... Keep up the good work, the emotions you've got Jake and Ryan going through are represented in narrative thought and dialogue as perfect as I can remember it all--which is pretty good--coming to the self-realization of your own 'gay'ness is a hard realization...I had the inklings of it just before puberty hit which made that all the more difficult. And there was one class in high school that I could never think in 'cause one of my eye candy was two desks away...

Sorry, Zenny, looks like we both posted at almost the same time...I like mine better (but I'm biased) ...but I'll try yours out... Ian mentioned understanding sympathy to Perry in need. and still will stick out with: B R O T H E R S

It's sunny, cool, and clear all the way across the LA Basin here in Southern California...why do I need to worry about water?

Hey, Robbie! I noted your 2001st post status on sending my PM to you earlier, just at submission...congratulations!

Okay, here we go again...glad we're off the opera track, though... Even clueless Lyle inferred Perry talked incessantly cynically. B R O T H E R S

Yeah, but get well from WHAT?!? The doctors should be able to cure the infection, but what about the rest of him?

Treefrog, I just went back to the beginning of this thread...shown above...and in following the posts know that you sat down and had a heart to heart, etc....but out of what you have poured out here, did you mention this part to him: Yes, I know I left out major portions--key elements were stuck in my mind--but what did you leave out when you talked to him? Note, the underlining, letting him know your opinion of what he's been through, and bold italics, because if someone told me that, I'd probably be completely his if I was still unmarried. Sometimes we forget the "key" thing we were willing to tell others, but not the person it concerns in the first place. Sometimes, when you truly love someone, the way to their heart isn't necessarily by telling them you love them and telling them to love you because your both already there with each other doing it--sometimes it's telling them how truly important they are to you, and why. Don't demand his love--plant a seed. You broke off a friendship that was special, to both of you. At the time he didn't want a relationship with you other than friends--everyone works at a different speed, treefrog...but he knew that he could come to you with his troubles like nobody else he knew. Now that you broke that off, who is he going to call when his ex- now current-again does the same crappy stuff, again?!? "...and if I lost him I'd truly be alone," are you really willing to throw away someone that you would "die to make love with" and seems to make your life whole? I think not, you don't really come across as someone like that. If he truly meant that much to you, he always will mean that much to you. (Trust me, I initiated the breakup with my ex- and although I don't regret it, I cried myself to sleep for two weeks--I was your age, then, I'm twice Nathan's age now--and still think of him and how great the lovemaking was, and it was{!}, and still wonder if he's okay even though the breakup was very bitter) And if you still want a chance to prove you love him, and plant that seed, you need to retrace your steps and apologize to him for breaking off. You are both young, and are making mistakes in this search for "love". Then tell him that you felt hurt, but that you're still there to listen to his troubles anytime. I hope that you will be able to repair this--a friendship was given up because someone wasn't ready to go further, and someone else's feelings were hurt because of it. I hope that you will try. I hope that he will be convinced. I hope you get your chance to plant that seed. I hope that you get a chance to take a whole day and night, stretching the time, by doing nothing but "make love" (not to be confused with the act of intercourse) with all of the day's and evening's romantic and fun or sensual activities. I hope that he will come back to you. I hope that seed will grow and thrive. I hope for both of you!

Hey, Jovian_w2002! DON'T scare me like that...(!) Spinal cord infections and such are not mere trifles...a friend's wife passed away about 2 weeks ago after coming home from a spinal tap and going to take a nap...her husband, a fellow member in the Elks, found her when he arrived home--her daughter had been there and said that she was upstairs sleeping as that was her last conversation with her mother... I was really worried when I started reading this thread...

Robbie, if you have an insurance claim on your car--file with your company, if there's a police report determining fault to the other driver, they will go to that insurance company and force the settlement. Either way you will get your car fixed faster. Don't wait for the other driver's insurance co.--your company will have you sign, if not at fault, an agreement to abrogate, which just means they are authorized to sue the other company and their driver that hit you. Contact your insurance agent for assistance, now.

Karl and Neil got a real original orgasm. (Couldn't resist) S U C K I T U P (Sorry, still couldn't resist! )