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Sayreville teen dies after opening up bus roof hatch, striking head
hh5 replied to hh5's topic in The Lounge
lol its just an early opinion I read an article of a similar case that stated that their city would hold the driver responsible The other article stated that the SG was downstairs for 2 to 5 minutes ... it doesn't take that long to go downstairs and tell the driver somethings wrong with the AC. It would take less than a minute. The driver can then respond on the PA system. It seems that the SG was involved in a short conversation with the driver. That could be seen as abandoning his post when it comes to teens Also it may be seen that the SG was distracting the driver. ( The driver maybe doubling as first deck security In theory they might have video security camera on both decks to record the situation should an accident arise.) I've heard an opinion of a teacher. "You can't take your eyes off of kids for one minute..." But it might test the limo services contract about the client waiving liability if they use emergency hatch or door in a non emergency situation should there be an accident. Its up to the courts to determine who responsible ... SG or Driver or BOTH or neither But the driver is like the captain of the ship ... so responsibility would ultimately be his in theory The parents would be seeing that they entrusted the safety of their kids in the limo service. But we don't know this company's rules regarding chaperons vs SG there is no reporting about other chaperons other than the SG. I hope its not the case where the chaperons didn't make it and the bus decided to leave on schedule leaving the SG n driver to be responsible. Yes I agree the respective parent may have to bear the blame for their kid ... now whether that's partial or full ... its up-to the courts -
Sayreville teen dies after opening up bus roof hatch, striking head
hh5 replied to hh5's topic in The Lounge
Found another article from the dreaded foxnews Here an opinion of another party bus company There's complacency on safety. Its ok when there isn't an accident but when there is its an ugly issue I wonder if there was a waiver of responsibility in the contract should a passenger uses a hatch or an exit in a non emergency situation. Its sad ... its only a 20 minute ride over the bridge to their destination -
Sayreville teen dies after opening up bus roof hatch, striking head
hh5 replied to hh5's topic in The Lounge
Hey John it be nice to post a link to the updated story http://www.google.co...51bed4e4a8c9765 I wonder how fast the bus was going ... it must have good shockabsorbers and stabilizers to allow dancing at highway speed ... I wouldn't dance on a NYC bus going at 10mph ... it might hit a pot hole. Even if it had great equipment, if the bus made a sudden jerk by slowing down or speeding up someone would fall. I would think partying would be at slower speeds or at parked location rather than on a highway. Must be some change in regulations somewhere. I would think its a safety issue to dance on a bus at highways speeds and going over a bridge. 65 kids is a lot to handle by one security guard on a double decker bus. The bus company should have required some parents to be present to help chaperon or the parents should have paid extra for an additional guards The good question did the driver\SG explain the rules of safety before moving on and allowing the party to commence You forgot to mention the bus got hot and the teens was looking to cool off, By default, the chaperon is the security guard. He failed to take on that roll of insuring safety and taking control of the situation. The driver and the SG should have done something to insure safety. The SG should not have abandon the safety of the passengers by leaving his post (the second floor deck) He knew that the teen presented a danger in this situation He should have sent one of the teens to tell the bus driver its hot But really the SG should have a radio device with the driver Driver should have determined what went wrong with AC. and then make an announcement to stop the dancing\party and ask the teen to take their seats The SG should made sure the teens comply and have the teens drink something cold or take some ice cubes to cool off The driver should have Pull over n vent out the heat Call dispatch to see if they can send a replacement bus or tell the Teens that the dancing is cancelled Sure it be a major party disappointment but things happen. But, somewhere the idea of "keep the party going" overridden the good sense of passenger safety The SG knows the situation that the teens were not listening. He should have stood under the hatch and then stop the party He lost control of the situation Sure there will be an investigation and perhaps a lawsuit by the parents and\or the state\city The bus company and the security company will suspend those in question during the investigation Somewhere law will review this perfect storm and make a ruling and award something Insurance company or the bus company will pay for the death if ruled by the courts The bus company may run into some trouble with their insurance and\or with the city\state Now, even though the SG told reporters what happen ... he may have impeded an investigation and broke security company guidelines The concern parties will find fault ... the Entertainment company will defend that it was an accident and complied with safety regulations We don't know the backgrounds of the driver, SG, and the company ... that will surely come out in a future trial or hearing The Question that might be asked : Does the SG have background in dealing with adults and teens (most importantly)? By telling the reporter the after fact of the accident that teens don't listen means he might have invited liability on himself. And someone will support that he abandon his post where a present danger showed itself. -
Sayreville teen dies after opening up bus roof hatch, striking head
hh5 replied to hh5's topic in The Lounge
Yeah it does ... hopefully they will learn to put sensors on the hatches or exits so that the driver can be responsible Drivers need to be held accountable and it was the parents fault to not have a chaperon. -
Sayreville teen dies after opening up bus roof hatch, striking head
hh5 replied to hh5's topic in The Lounge
aren't there highly skilled teens thats done so many stupid things and lived -
Sayreville teen dies after opening up bus roof hatch, striking head
hh5 replied to hh5's topic in The Lounge
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Circumnavigation (99+34) Paved with Good Intentions
hh5 replied to C James's topic in C James Fan Club's Topics
She manufactured the excuse to take over the drug business via assassination like a preying mantis so no one around who can out smart her? -
hmm an Olympic Challenge in London
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Circumnavigation (99+34) Paved with Good Intentions
hh5 replied to C James's topic in C James Fan Club's Topics
so she hasn't given up on trevor and the boys ... she got big claws all over florida -
Now an earthquake is this a response to the recent earthquake now is california next??
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i got it almost right they are saying Prince Harry of Whales he's now associated with "FREE WILLY!!" which was true a few years back with the tabloids catch William showing his doggie
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there's word of more photos of prince Hairy whaling around
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Ecuador's goat reaction
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trevor four eyes!! so isn't that Joel n Lisa ... laughing with SHANE!!! the honeymoon adventures ... hark ... don't we hear bridget cuming from the woods? (she's a he and arnold was silenced)
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Circumnavigation (99+33) Tickling the Dragon's Tail
hh5 replied to C James's topic in C James Fan Club's Topics
aren't they soiling a police investigation??? isnt' "Tickling the Dragon's Tail" leading to a big fart!! she;s too old to lay eggs ... she always offs the head of her offspring ... like a praying mantis aren;t the boys worried they'll unleash her bad breath?? -
KILT this please!! so is this is a post Olympic celebration with a Military conquest did he at least pop out his toy he carried at the wedding lol
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is something happening in the South america \ pacific plate? peru had a big quake not too long ago in geological times
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[Myr] Who has read Alex Rider stories?
hh5 replied to Myr's topic in Promoted Author Discussion Forum
is this #4 x 2 + 1??? LOL -
Amelia Earhart mystery: New evidence, right spot, searchers say
hh5 replied to JamesSavik's topic in The Lounge
its great that they widen the search -
Does he bath in heavy water in that yellow suit? Its very early 19th century lol Will he father your children that have glowing eyes?
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I hear that they should not be dug too shallow ... the enemy dogs might pick up the scent now isn't there the possibility the Chinese [country born] will be the candidates for the future Olympics? so it become Chinese playing against Chinese? or Viet vs Viet ... etc etc It seems noticeable that has happening in recent games
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will shane take notice under the board shorts? http://en.wikipedia....i/Taylor_Wilson American nuclear scientist who was noted in 2008 for being the youngest person in the world (at age 14) to build a working nuclear fusion reactor http://www.popsci.co...o-played-fusion How fusion-reactors work? Are they just creating one aspect of Fusion? Isn't the sun made up of many complex Fusion reactions? * The fuel held by immense gravity and pressure * The reactions that inspire other Fusion type reactions etc Now just taking the heat by product is still old school of generating electricity isn't there a more direct method? from reaction to electric? They use what they call a magnetic bottle but that's a leaky bottle Isn't gravity more than just electromagnetic field? The Plasma in a donut ... is the plasma spinning?
