Persinette

Hmm. Possible one could obtain a Concealed Canine Carrying Permit? I'm surprised No Tolerance laws haven't been instituted; in England they'd be put into place long before things reached this level. Are there any local articles about the attacks that might shed some light on why there hasn't been legal intervention?

I'll admit now that I'm not exactly what you'd call a staunch romantic...or, well, any kind of romantic, really. Fortunately romance and love are two distinct creatures. Love is work. It's the day in, day out duty of being good to people when you're tired and angry. It's about forgiving and listening and giving for as long as you're able to. Not exhausting yourself by being the eternal, faithful doormat (better to be pissed off than pissed on), but doing what you can and trusting that they will do the same for you. Basically, it's about kindness. And love without kindness is worthless.

Cool, dude. Sorry to derail a thread you were enjoying. If anyone feels perceived ideals of chivalry is a conversation they'd like to have I'll make a thread in the Soapbox. My apologies for the mess. Next time I'll bring dusters.

Not only that, but the lurkers totally support you in email.

Nice strawman you got there. It flammable? Let me break it down for you. Girl + large tits = tons of undesired attention = feels very little gratitude towards unwelcome attention. Could you please point to where I was pretentious? Argumentative, certainly. Supercilious, arguably, but pretentious? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Does this mean you're picking up your balls and going home?

Somehow I have the odd feeling that respecting women has never been high on your priorities. Decent men don't imply that women should be grateful for any scrap of male attention because they're so gosh-darn ugly. Speaking of behaviour that loses respect for ones particular social group: Doesn't it feel good to know that you're the reason people unfairly judge young men? Men who think that insulting a woman's appearance is the same as debate are pitiful creatures. I'm fairly sure my avatar is one I use on another site and that I have it because it's an injoke with a close friend. If only I'd realised was trying to lure gay men over to the dark side! You have truly opened my eyes. Well, my birth certificate does have the date scribbled in crayon over a layer of tippex. Could my mother have been lying when she said the hospital had just forgotten to flip the calender month over when they first wrote it?

Don't worry, I don't! Another of my friends prides himself on being chivalrous, but he lets me treat him in an equally gentlemanly manner and doesn't try to stick me solely in the role of the 'lady'. So all is good. As for the rest, that's just ole fashioned manners! My mother would have blistered our ears if her kids didn't do those things . Classy. Tell me, do you respect all women this way? (By the way, see those things in my avatar? Those are mine. They're 11 inches larger than my waist. Generally people could stand to be a little less, uh, appreciative.) Once someone's made it clear that they do not desire something, continuing to do so is ill-mannered. The original gesture is polite. Also, I generally just ask people 'Do you have a boyfriend? Girlfriend?'. I assume their fragile heterosexual egos could weather the insult. Mods: I'm wondering if it might be a good idea to move this discussion to the Soapbox?

Feel free. I'm built like an old-fashioned German farmgirl; capable of putting my fist through a brick wall. But courtesy is only courtesy if it's welcome. Offering someone a slice of chocolate cake is courtesy, trying to force it down their throat is rude. Declining the cake is not resentful.

Have you ever had a friend almost shove you into a busy road? I have. It was because he was so determined to be 'chivalrous' and walk on the outside of the pavement that he tried to push past me. With no warning. He also refused to walk through doors if I held them open for him to go through first. The man would actually stand there pouting. Aren't those just marvelous displays of respect?

1. Pushing in front of somebody is bad manners, and 2. Chivalry being forced on an unwilling recipient is not respectful; infact it's just the opposite.

Unless you're genuinely worried for your physical safety 'getting up in someone's face' shouldn't get anyone hit; male, female or otherwise. If you can't walk away from it or calm them down the appropriate response to verbal aggression is verbal aggression, not a black eye.

Nah, the producers just wanted to do a good show that starred Asian cultures and characters. IMO they did an absolutely fantastic job.

Avatar: The Last Airbender isn't anime. It uses a lot of the art style, but the show itself is American.

This comic is my basic opinion on Ayn Rand's novels and philosophy.

It's not my kink but I'm pretty damn sure you'll have an audience for it. Bung a couple of warnings/disclaimers on and go for it.

Totally prepared. Got the whole thing planned out with my mates - including which heavily disliked acquaintance we're tying to the fence as a decoy.

I could probably come up with dozens, but here's the top, uh, four. 1. People who start or finish a statement with 'no offense meant' and expect that be some kind of Get Out Of Being Told You're An Arsehole Free card. (You know damn well that what you just said was rude/snide/overly personal or you wouldn't have added the sodding qualifier.) 2. Friends who seem to hear "Uh, can we move? The lighting's fritzing out my ability to focus and giving me a stonking headache" as "But I want a pony! I waaaant one!" (I have some rather interesting sensory problems. I ignore them up until I can no longer compensate and I dislike bringing them up unless it's absolutely necessary. My friends know this. Many of them are no longer my friends.) 3. "It's my opinion! I'm entitled to my opinion!" Yes, yes you are. My opinion is that you're a flaming idiot. 4. Attempted mind games/emotionally abusive behaviour. This goes double if the perpetrator cries when their target refuses to play nice. Your astonishingly plentiful tears do not move me.

The problem with defending the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. - James D. Nicholl I thought about building you a boat to survive the river of tears I'm crying for you even as we speak, but the world's smallest violins just aren't a reliable source of lumber, and that cross you're nailing yourself to seems like it'd be buoyant enough anyway. Because I'm a massive sap, a few orphaned poetry quotes: Then it is only kindness that makes sense anymore, only kindness that ties your shoes and sends you out into the day to mail letters and purchase bread - Kindness, Naomi Shihab Nye Even now, when skin is not alone, it remembers being alone and thanks something larger that there are travelers, that people go places larger than themselves. - Two Countries, Naomi Shihab Nye my one hand holding tight my other hand; come celebrate with me that everyday something has tried to kill me and has failed. - won't you celebrate with me, Lucille Clifton

I tend to favour folk 'n country for my angsting requirements and it delivers threefold. Patty Griffin - Useless Desires (Say goodbye to the old street that never cared much for you anyway The different-colored doorways you thought would let you in one day Goodbye to the old bus stop, frozen and waiting Weekend edition has this town way overrated) Tegan and Sara - Fix You Up http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5ptKhU__eoc (Well there's not a lot for you to give if you're giving in And there's not a lot for you to feel if you're not feeling it You bring it up and bring it in and we'll get you fixed up in no time) Bonfire Madigan - Dishes And Spoon Amanda Palmer - Have to Drive

But you didn't mention any of that. You only mentioned your own problems and tried to rub them in the face of people who you clearly considered inferior. Also, since Persinette is sitting next to me it seemed easier to just say she agrees (rather than her going to the effort of posting). Martin EDIT: Or, alternatively, she forgot to log out.

Invoking the Oppression Olympics never does a cause any good, it merely leads to infighting instead of working towards the desired goal. There isn't a finite amount of anti-oppression work in the world; just because people are picking a battle you don't approve of doesn't mean you and many others can't fight for the things you believe in. Also, your snide description of McMillen as a 'hot lesbian' is unpleasantly reminiscent of the way gay rights have historically meant rights for gay, white, middle-to-upper-class men, with little regard for anyone who fails to meet these lofty qualifications. People are still being fairly polite about telling you that they think your behaviour is out of order. I would suggest that you quit while you are still ahead.

Hey! I was introduced to the forums by clumber, and after reading for a while I decided to join up. Hoping to be active here (and not get myself banned somehow!).