Sammy Blue

Good point about adjusting back to their own lives. Also, there might be more to Philip than we see at first. ;3Thanks!

Hehe yeah, it seems Jacob keeps adding up things he doesn't tell Josh and Josh didn't give him every detail either... we'll see where this leads. Thanks for your review! =)

Jacob “Hey, how was your day so far?” Josh asked as he pulled me into a brotherly hug. “It’s okay, I guess,” I replied. I considered telling him what had happened between me and Parker, but decided against it. He seemed happy and I didn’t want to ruin his mood by talking about that asshole. I’d tell him some other time. “How about yours?” He grinned at me as we sat down. “Awesome. I’m really liking your life.” I smiled. It was good to hear that he enjoyed his time. He seemed different someho

I'm kinda almost glad that all these problems connected with Matt are gone for a bit... I was expecting him to try fix his relationship with Wade, but apparently he decided for the easy way out. Should've seen it... Brad and Wade? I'm not sure about that... LOL However, if it makes both of them happy, I think Will won't have much of a problem with it, or will he? It looks kinda strange, though, and it would make the family tree even more incomprehensible... I hope it doesn't happen.^^

Thanks! This one will be a great help! When I read the first chapter the other day I was kind of lost.

I'm hoping for more updates! I love this series, it's just awesome! I can't wait for Richie to wake up. This should be interesting. How will he react? And if he decides for a live in darkness (which I assume, having an early sunquest is technically an option but I don't think that would help the storyline very much)... will Justin teach him? I believe that he could be a major help when it comes to Justin's issue with self-denial. How will Richie react to Justin being gay? There are so many questions out there, just regarding this one person. Someone else said that they think that Richie's extra might be something that could have saved Dylan. I think that's actually pretty possible. When looking at Richie's life, his friendship with Justin and later being in hospital... it's rather likely (compared to the norm) that he will have some kind of healing ability. If of course he had something to heal the heart of a vampire, that would be... ironic, in a pretty brutal way. Anyway, Comicality, please write more! We might not drink blood, but you don't want to risk our hunger pains if we don't get a chapter a month here.

Great story! But it kinda says it's complete but it isn't....?

Aww c'mon, still no sequel? You can't leave us hanging like this! I really enjoyed the story and I'd love to read a sequel! I was totally expecting him to change his mind and leave the planet at the end. :-/ Great work! Keep writing!

Thank you! Mostly he was too busy to think about that, I think, at least during the shower. He already fancies Ethan, though, so while he might find Cody good-looking, he would always remain a second choice, at least for now. With Cody being openly gay, the dynamic changes, though.

Yes, definitely. It is one of two main options I can think of.

Cody might complicate things, now that Josh seems to make friends with him. :3

Thank you!

Aw, c'mon Mark... no comment about 69? Not even 69 sex? I thought better of you... Anyway, I liked that they did something that normal people would do. They should do that more often. They are rich and all, but I really like it when they do something 'normal'.

Josh This was definitely not the right moment to think about whether I was getting any kinds of signals from Ethan. I forced my legs to move and caught up with him. By then, the changing room was pretty much empty. Almost everyone was in the showers or already heading back out. Other than us, there was only one other guy left on this side of the room. When Ethan and I passed him, he joined us on our way to the shower room. It almost seemed like he had been waiting for us. I took a quick look a

Thanks for your review! Ian seems like he has noticed something, but the question really is: What exactly has Ian noticed? I really enjoyed writing this chapter, and also the start of the next one, particularly because of the way Ethan and Josh deal with this situation and how they act towards one another. Everyone assumes Ethan is gay and that kind of makes sense if you assume that Josh will end up with someone. There aren't all that many options. We still don't know for sure, though, like you said. This chapter gave some more hints, but we will see how it ends.

I always liked this misquotation: "If a man lies with another man, he should be stoned." Will is certainly sticking to it...

Thanks! I guess most teens don't like it all that much when their parents hug them (especially not in front of others ) but in Josh's case a simple hug can mean a lot to him. There are families that are more distanced and some that are more close, and well then there are the extremely distanced ones... I actually never thought about it beforehand, it just came up while I was writing the scene... :3

LOL don't give Mark ideas, or we will after the next chapter.

We will know soon. The mere fear of being caught looking or something like that happening can ruin the mood you need to get it up very quickly, though. Then again, Ethan does look pretty hot.

Well, usually you're doing well. And if you lack it, one more reason for me to help you train it!

It is securely locked away from curious eyes. Until I manage to finish and edit it. I know I'm mean.

We all have our own ideas of how to define what a family is, but if we do this we should be more clear about it. I think this topic developed from "about the CAP family" to "our own ideas". That is interesting to discuss, of course, but we should be clear on what is what. Are we talking about how the CAP family deals with it? Or what are general values in our respective societies? Or is it about our own opinion? I was referring to the way the CAP family thinks. If we discuss what status Wade and Matt have in the family, and what relationships Will has with them, then we have to apply the way the CAP family, particularly JP, sees things, and how the persons who are included in a conflict (Wade, Matt, Will, etc:) see things. Anything else is nice to talk about but won't help us much for the issue. It IS a fact that a member of the CAP family has been disowned before, so that means that it IS a real, possible option of what JP could do in another case, too. (though when we talk of Matt that is besides the point, ofc. I'm just explaining what I meant there.). However, we can still discuss those values and compare them with our own. I think I see where you are coming from, I don't really agree with the way the CAP family sees it, either (I like reading it, though). There is probably no other demographic group that knows this topic as well as we do. "No son if mine is gay." In fact, there is a lot of people who believe they can choose their family and that might make this an even more sensitive issue. I think we all can agree that you cannot choose your biological family (well, honor killings aside). We probably all agree on the fact that you can fully include members into your family that are not biologically related. If anyone has doubts, then they are probably not a good choice when it comes to adoption. As you said, the issue is with excluding family members. The question is: What does it mean to exclude a member of your family? Let's take Brian (that was his name, right?) as an example. He was pretty malicious. He can forfeit his place in the family, physically. Everyone might stop having contact to him. It is understandable, too. There is a certain point where I think everyone would cut the ties. However, does that really mean that he is not a family member anymore? I personally do not think so. As long as he lives, he is a part of the family. Even if he is persona non grata, he is still part of the family, and his existence will still have an impact on other family members. His actions will be linked to the family, if they are known. A person will still be thought of as father, brother, mother, etc. Technically he is still a member of the family. Many stories on here and elsewhere deal with teens that are kicked out of their homes because they are gay. It is often a topic that they 'choose' their new family, say that their family is dead to them. Is that really true, though? I don't think so. In a way, you are stuck with your family. The memories remain and sometimes they might haunt you. That is what I think family might mean, emotionally. But that does not mean that you might not cut all ties to a family member. Is it right? Perhaps, if the circumstances are accordingly. So in that case a person would be part of the family, but in a way they would be not. I doubt that this is that simple that you can say "it is this way, and no other". Maybe it would make sense to see things in several levels, just like you could do a family tree for the cap family, showing who is biologically related, and then one to show who considers whom to be what, who is in what relationships, etc. They would differ a lot. And so would different definitions of family differ about what the CAP family looks like (or any family for that matter). I wonder though: Do you mean it is wrong to exclude a member of the family? Or do you mean it is not possible to do so, emotionally, or whatever the right word is... well, what I elaborated above. In that case we might even agree, in the end. Ps: Those are just some thoughts. It's what I have thought through for maybe an hour, but not my life philosophy. So if you can change my mind or explain how you see things, I'd be glad to hear anyone's opinion. ^^ Oh and I don't judge, either. :3

As well as you can choose to exclude those who are biologically related, as happened with Brian. I am not sure if we're talking about the same definition of family here. I didn't understand B1ue's post either.

Well, are you saying that Will should prefer Matt because they are related? And you cannot pick your family, but your family can make it clear that they have no interested in being your family. Actually, a while back we were discussing about the Danfields become a core-part of the CAP family... Matt is related to Robbie and Frank. Technically, he is Will's stepbrother. Wade has a son with Tiffany. Tiffany is the ex-partner of Jeanine, which should in a way make her the same to Will as Robbie was. The age difference makes thinking like this problematic, though, as well as the fact that Tiffany never had a 'mother' role. So Wade is the father of... Will's kind of stepbrother Riley? In a way? (though Will would probably consider Riley more of a nephew...) I might confuse myself here. The point is though, Wade is a part of the family, or is he not? Will is related to neither of them by blood and when it comes to marriages and arrangements there is not much difference either. The only difference you could see is that Will considered Robbie as his father and that should make Matt his brother. Matt however never really considered Will a brother and Will reacted accordingly. Will statement here was not really that he preferred Wade, his statement was that for the sake of Wade he is cutting Matt some slack. I mean, what exactly makes you part of the family and what does not. As far as I remember Wade is considered part of the family by everyone. I think there was one point when JP made it clear to him that even if he splits up with Matt, he still belongs to the family. Hence they should be 'equally' related... edit: so yeah, my earlier statement in the last post about the blood relationship was kinda nonsense then... I just figured that while I was writing this... damn someone make a family tree pwetty please? :S

I agree with you, I had hoped that Will would be more mature. I thought he could handle it better, but he proved me wrong. He sounded pretty definite. The only reason to be that direct here is for Matt to wake up. Maybe it was even good he reacted that way. But I really doubt that he had that in mind when he told Matt to, technically, go fuck himself. I didn't expect Will to be as passive as you suggested, but what he did was just one step from the feared explosion. It was pretty much "I will not blow up just this once because someone else asked me to." I have to disagree on something, though. While family is important to Will, I don't remember him ever seeing family as a blood thing. It would be kind of stupid, considering that he is barely related to anyone in blood himself. Wade was the big brother to Will that Matt failed to be. Matt was never all that friendly to Will, he was not understanding in times where Will needed it and so on. Wade was always there for him and always in his corner. He was understanding and when Will was wrong he wasn't snarky but explained things calmly. It makes a lot of sense to me and I believe that pretty much everyone would see it the same way. Will trusts Wade almost (or exactly) as much as he trusts JP. I would see the whole lawyer thing during emancipation as one of many examples for that. Wade is as much part of the family as Matt is, probably even more so. He is certainly closer to most family members.