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Modern Society/modern Debts


There's an intrinsic idea about debt, whether it's traditional debt, held for credit cards, student loans, or mortgages that is easy to determine with formulas and interest rates for value, or intrinsic obligations, beheld by concepts like friendship, family, or love; it is part of all social contracts and human civilization itself. Without debt, we would not have the underlying framework for our daily lives.

 

In the Bible, which most of us tend to ignore for obvious reasons (cough "Levitucs/Romans", idiotic two thousand year old rules that don't really apply in a free democratic society that has no absolute kings, just titular figureheads), there is a few good pieces about the concept of being oblige to help others and being your "brothers' keeper" is probably a good thing in terms of holding a certain intrinsic debt, Another famous saying "And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him" (Mark 12:17) has been used by national leaders justifying a separation of church and state, but at its core, the saying ascribed to Jesus is a proof of debt being divine and temporally necessary for all human beings,

 

However, just like everything else in life, human beings can exploit it. While necessary and maybe even stamped by God himself (I'll leave that to theologians to argue), debt is intrinically a promise to be kept. Maybe you can keep it, but what if you cannot?

 

That is the heart of where we are right now in terms of the world at present; there are many people sufferring under debt's negative influences. There are too many promises that cannot be kept, too many dreams that cannot be real.

 

Whether it is Greece, Peurto Rico, or even the guy living down the street with a foreclosure notice at his door; there is a reality that cannot be avoided. We live in a world where debt accumulation has gone too far; where we have placed too much faith in promises that are far too great to be achieved or far too fragile to be maintained. The American dream, the European hope, and the rest are all promises that were never real to begin with; a promise is not an indication of reality, just a possible outcome among an infinite set of potentials, which you lck yourselves into when assuming a debt.

 

I am musing on this as I am writing my story, but also watching the world unfold around me. While debt has lead us to great achievements and progress as human beings; there is a dangerous problem with it. We assume all promises to be kept just as God is assumed to keep prmises to mankind, but what if promises can be broken due to the inability to reach it.

 

I want to question the very nature of Obligations; the nature of Divine promises, and fundamentally how society is built upon tenets of faith that cannot hold itself together unless the "promise" is absolute, which it is not in a world of quantum infinities.

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Zombie

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Love has nothing to do with debt. It doesn't arise from any social contract or obligation or promise. It is often asymmetric, sometimes one-sided, but always unconditional. Otherwise it's not love :)

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W_L

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Love is ultimately one of the most flawed concepts of debt and false "promises", if it was originally created by divine inspiration as theologians of both western and eastern religions postulate, I would submit that it is a proof of a fallable divine; God can be wrong, because his love is limited by conditions of his rules. However, if the idea is man made, then it is more so a delusion of emotional transactions with results that may be unattainable, a false "promise" as well.

 

A debt in love may be given freely and taken the same, but it has an inherent transactional value of emotions. You want to acquire affections for affections; even if it is one sided, you are giving under an assumption, a dream, or a hope for potential rewards. It's a flawed concept, because the "promise" of reciprosity may never occur at the same level or at all. 

 

Love if it equates to a physical debt is like an ARM variable rate mortgage (might be subrprime :P ), you may assume that you can have your dream home if you put in an "x" amount into it, but there is no certainty that your efforts will return results as a fact that so many people lose their homes each year in the US and around the world. Love without conditions is a fantasy that romance writers fall into; there are always conditions to love as there are in life. Conditions may change to prevent love from flourishing or they may improve or deteriorate to allow it to flourish in new directions.

 

Essentially, I want to question humanity itself and its inherent flawed value system both in terms of physical value and intrinsic value.

 

Love has nothing to do with debt. It doesn't arise from any social contract or obligation or promise. It is often asymmetric, sometimes one-sided, but always unconditional. Otherwise it's not love :)

rustle

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"...and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors..."

 

From time to time, it's healthy to reset the scales, but those who hold the note rarely do so willingly.

W_L

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"...and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors..."

 

From time to time, it's healthy to reset the scales, but those who hold the note rarely do so willingly.

 

To forgive a debt is the only solution and absolution to obligations we have discovered right now, but it must be mutually accepted, which mankind has not ben able to achieve in recent history.

 

by the way, forgiveness  in love is incredibly difficult to do; the emotional value that is put in makes it more likely that hate would be the result, because resentment builds on all the slights that occur throughout a relationship. A person may claim to forgive, but emotionally, they have not accepted it as absolution, only a tenative compromise. (Just as a person can only afford so much during each variable mortgage rate adjustment, you will eventually reach a point where it is unaffordable. )

 

That's part of what I am warning about; forgiveness is not a half measure to maintain a status quo (like the current rules in forebearances and deferrals), it is imperfect as a solution to our value system. As a species we stopped short in exploring how we value each other and the world, when we thought we had the answer in forgiveness to balance out the scales of debt and obligation.

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