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The big question on my mind is whether Wellesly has w brand on his wrist. Will there be one more name added to the newly posted secret list? The brotherhood seems more than just a bumpin' uglies club, they have no secrets among them. That makes them even more powerful doesn't it? All these powerful figures knowing the other intimately? It means they are trustworthy of state secrets as well because they dare not risk exposing the brotherhood. If Calvert were to be brought forwards I think he would have to be rejected. He is not nearly discrete enough.

Guys, I think he's turning into a review junkie. You know, like cosmie, only older, more grown up. Does he really think that less than ten people are reading his stuff? Hasn't he figured out that are hands are usually BUSY at the end of a chapter and when we get conscious again we go to the forum to read the slutty comments? Sheesh, well I'll be right back. I have to go leave a slutty comment.

That could be fun if I get to choose my method of going.

And anyone looking for something to pass the time on this subject, I started a new thread aimed at capturing and maintaining a list of those in the Brotherhood. Just back up to the Marl Arbour Forum beginning and see if I've missed anybody.

And to save you gays from looking it up: “You never played second fiddle to him in my heart,” Granger said. He pulled Calvert’s face around so their eyes were locked. “I loved him, but there was never any question that I loved you more.” Granger was thankfully able to say that truthfully, but only because Cavendish wasn’t factored into the equation. And then there was Chartley, but Granger avoided thinking about him. All that was irrelevant when he saw a huge grin spread across Calvert’s face. And also from later in the same chapter: Granger watched her go, while at the same time he pondered the two men she took with her. Calvert, the man he shared a deep bond with, the man who was still a boy at heart, and brought out the playful side of Granger’s own personality. The man who was an energetic and considerate lover, always willing to try or do anything to make sex more fun. But he was also the man who was impulsive and careless, the kind of man who could get himself and his friends into trouble. Granger contrasted him to Chartley, who was so much more mature, refined, and steady. Chartley who came from Granger’s world, and who adhered to the same codes of conduct. The man who was such a man, a masculine man, that he made Granger feel almost boyish. The first entry clearly shows that Granger prefers Cavendish to Calvert for a number of reasons. Social class being a key point as mentioned in the later. And Chartley is a second thought not the first after seeing Calvert and Chartley leave together. Add that to the fact that Granger recognizes that not only does Freddie have Carolines approval as he visits her weekly, but he also is the only one to create a jealous state that is near violence in George by his own admissions. Also note that Cavendish feels that only george can truly love him in his physically deficient state. The only fly in the ointment yet has not been fully revealed. And that is the issue that Freddie had with Davina. One he is not willing to divulge. YET.

I agree with one caveat. The governor knows about the letters and knows Granger is the only on who can get them out of ths mess. He also knows that ranger's father is a significant stock holder and would not willingly seek his wrath, nor that of the King. I think we will find the guide cute and willing and Granger will woo him into doing the best that he can to get them there quickly. And perhaps he was given instructions, but Granger has a way of stealing loyalties. Chartley always came off as just what he is. And Chapter 13 St Vincent clearly states the pecking order of Granger's lovers. And that passage clearly implicates that Cavendish is the top of the list, even above Calvert. So Chartley is really no loss as it removes one more possibility of Drama. Personally I would love to see 4 or 5 of his truest lovers all in one room for his Birthday bash. Oh and as I recall, Cavendis is more than likely a Capricorn just like Granger. Just like all the best lovers, Capricorns are the most loyal and passionate of lovers. Oh, did I mention my January birthday?

No problem, I have a firm grip.

Can I Cum too? Please ohpleaseohplease?

Shoot! I took them with an iron supplement and a viagra got stuck in my throat. Now I've got a stiff neck and I tend to point north!

WAIT! If you post it now, you'll be breaking with convention! You can't post it until I'm 30 seconds away from being engaged in an activity that will preclude my reading it for an additional 8 hours, thus amplifying my pain and torture.

Ok, I just reread 44. The San Bernadino Straits put them less than 500 miles from Amboyna. They should be there "JUST" after Granger and Chartley take off on their trek. I'm assuming that Bertie will give Calvert orders to make sale to England OR perhaps to the Nile to see if they were able to stop Maidstone. I expect that Calvert will freak at the news and raise every bit of canvas day and night to try and catch them. It's going to be an interesting chapter. I wonder what Arab aristocrat Granger will endear himself to along the way. Perhaps rescuing a sheik's first born son from a runaway camel? OH, I'm sorry Mark, did I give anything away?

That's alright, I love you too.

You're a tease Mark. I saw your tickler and thought you already posted your next chapter only to find out it was a chapter update. lol

You've mentioned look outs while still in the heat of battle. An example would be when fighting Sabino in St Vincent, about ch 14 when they were fully engaged and the lookouts sighted the San Trindad and two friggets. Also when rescuing Traver's men when the french ship blew up. Was that poetic license or would there have been look outs in the tops? I also realized that actions would have taken time when repositioning themselves, it might have taken as much as an hour or two to swing about for another pass depending on winds and seas of course. So the actions would not always take the 20 minutes or so to strike. I mean, even at top sails, they're still moving and that can't be stopped without calling the watch to strike sail all together. And langridge shot was just metal junk used before proper canister shot so it could be anything but chain shot would stretch out in length presumably to try and be wide enough to catch and wrap around masts or to catch rigging and pull it down or snap it off. And as such would cover a wider arc than dodging a ball approximately 6-8 inches in diameter depending on the weight of the cannon launching it. I DID find this online and thought it was good to share: Bar, Chain and Expanding ShotThere were innumerable examples of these projectiles. All were designed to damage ships' rigging, small boats or any unfortunate sailor who happened to get in the way. They date from the 17th century. Bar Shot Chain Shot Expanding Shot Expanding Shot 17th century shot, designed to damage ships' rigging, small boats, or any unfortunate ssailor who happened to get in the way. http://riv.co.nz/rnza/hist/gun/smooth4.htm Sorry about all the questions, I'm just trying to get a more realistic blow by blow idea of a real battle at sea in one of these ships. It's become a fascination for me.

OH, I agree completely, don't misunderstand my question's intentions. I wouldn't want it turned into anything else either. It was more a curiosity than anything else. I mean, there have been mentions of other graphic events during battles and used to show his stolid emotional control. Such as, a cannon ball decapitating a seaman right in front of him. I was just wondering why we never heard mention of a death or injury in the rigging because it surely must have happened. These guys were always going up to try and repair rigging damaged during battle before it makes the rest fall apart. It had just occurred to me that they were still firing up there and these guys had to be absolutely fearless to do that when you know that broadsides are focused on where you are headed.

ya, but I was thinking that raining blood or having an upper torso fall in front of you on the deck MIGHT be significant enough to recognize. Languid shot sounds quite unpleasant.And you a;ways hear about blood flowing from the scuppers but you never hear about the red stained sheets or the errant hand falling from the folds when they loose the sheets. And let's face it, bringing it down to top sails means they are trying to get to deck when shit starts flying. And you've got look outs up there during battle watching for other ships. I'm just saying that the thought of disposable people bothers me. They're worth a mention. Although doing so might move this from a pg13 to an R rating. (PG-13 = pretty good if you're 13 and getting off on it.)

You said, "Speaking of cute and loveable . . ." I thought you were going to talk about somebody that WAS. Instead you talked about the nuisance Calvert. I don't think he will meet up with him before England unless he shows up at the battle of the Nile. But I think he will show up at the end of it if he manages to get that far that fast. No, joyfully I think he's pretty much out of it until he catches back up to Granger after the battle. Personally, I'd like to see him lead the charge, tied to the bow sprit. BTW, thanks for the info on the diminished capacity Westie. Mark, been thinking about it. We've never seen anyone killed in an action that was aloft. Seems to me that look outs and seaman aloft would be in real danger if both the Spanish and French aim high.

I should say SO. He was a bloody LOBSTER! That's like calling the pope a satanic cultist! Glad you rewrote him cute though. lol. And next to Winkler and perhaps Llewellyn, Cavendish is my favorite sidedish, er, uhm I mean . . seaman? . . . or bits player,. . . uhm that didn't come out right either. Uhm supporting man. Uhm, ya, there, I got it right! See. Just took me a bit. Or was that, I just took my bits?

Thanks for that Westie. I thought Cavendish was the son of the Duke of Portland. I seem to remember Granger rubbing it a few people's faces wen he was injured. And I didn't stop to think, but if he was the oldest then he would most likely not be permitted to risk the legacy by going to see. I am assuming that is why Freddie did not serve. It sounds like everyone is encouraged to serve in some fashion but the nobel's first linage tends to serve in a safer position or to go into government. So with that logic it stands to reason that sine he was on board he was not the first line. So that makes me ask Mark, why has he never spoken of his brother when they talked about Bertie or Freddie and why has he never been present at court? And Westie, what if the first heir is of diminished capacity? For instance, a slight diminished mental capacity? Did they have a regent or was it handled some other way? I remember the movie, "The Lost Prince". Where the prince was severely epileptic. I just don't remember how it ended.

Hoping and expecting are two comPLETEly different things.

Well, ya. But I'm used to getting kissed first. A great chapter. Looks like Drama comes to Granger in the form of Gatling and Calvert. THIS should be interesting. The only thing missing here is the time-frame in comparison to Granger's current position. A shame that the Vulture could not have been captured and those in charge hung for treason or piracy. Also too bad Maidstone wasn't on board. I wonder if anyone significant was? More fish food. How will Calvert react with word that Granger has Malaria? Especially when he learns he is gone and on such a dangerous trek! Looks like we're gonna have a freak out party. Gatling will be beside himself as well. A little hero worship here. But which one?

Gads Mark. Do you have like, "Oh John's about to walk into a show" radar or something? Geeze, now I'm gonna have to sneak a listen in between cues. Torture, sheer torture.

I think Chartley is too stogy and as morally bankrupt as Bertie. He is after all involved in his schemes. Granger is going to have to end up with someone of the same social standing (which seems to be raising constantly) which means that Calvert won't last. Hmmm, perhaps a splinter? In the eye? (One can dream right?) Cavendish is still a couple years behind granger but in years to come he will be a powerhouse. Is he the oldest of the Duke's sons? I believe he is. So that would keep in in the right circles and like he said, he may even outrank him socially. He is also a member of the brotherhood although we don't know who sponsored him or when that happened. But seeing as though he was a midshipmen not long ago it will be interesting to find out. The reason I say he is in the brotherhood is his assignment to Arthur and the statement that he would be the likely assassin. So who sponsored him? This also means he is more than he seems. Perhaps he won't end up being with Granger today, I still find him the most likely candidate for a lasting and meaningful relationship with Granger. Besides, he's hot and I like the character and his persona. So just because of that, Mark will write him back into the story again as a central player. I don't see Chartley surviving the trip. He'll croak gallantly, perhaps with Calvert, and Granger will be able to attribute it to Bertie down the road so he can throw it back up in his face. He really likes to do that. Davina should have a little swaddler when they get back. I hope it looks just like George. That way when they have the carriage accident that kills both her and Freddie the kid will fit right in with George's kids.

Hi DariusvB, I wrote in German that I wouldn't mind your bad English if you wouldn't mind my bad German. I had a shit German teacher. He got really good at English but my German is still crap. lol. But we have remained the best of friends. But I didn't know that all posts have to be in English. But be welcome!

It just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished.