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I was surprised the boys and Pop talked so much about c u next Tuesday. I thought for sure Pop at least would find the word too offensive to even joke about. It is perhaps the only word left in the English language which carries any degree of offence. I find it very useful to describe hunters, gun lobbyists, right-wing politicians and just about anyone who pisses me off (this list grows longer as I live longer). And, it is a useful word to describe the "Robbie's" of this world too. I am continually amazed (and I don't know why) so many people are obsessed with the sex lives of others. I don't give a damn what activities other people enjoy (or don't as the case may be for some) in their bedroom (or anywhere else that takes their fancy). So long as there are no children or animals involved, they can do anything they wish with anyone (or as many as they like) at any time. The only thing I balk at is paying for any damage that is done to anybody who does something really stupid during sex play, such as some of the things people stick up their arse or women insert in their vaginas for pleasure e.g. glass bottles, baseball or cricket bats, bicycle handles. Really.

I don't think Hector means the animals of Jana Mountain any harm, his interest in them is purely zoological I believe. I don't think Celia means Zhiv any harm either, her desire to "rescue" and "civilise" him may be misguided, but I have come to believe she is doing what she thinks is best for him, even if he and others disagree. Erg and Berky are however, determined to deny both access to Zhiv and the forest. I find soccer a particularly tedious game (much like golf) and have only ever watched at most perhaps 5 minutes of each on TV. If the soccer players were as entertaining as the players in this chapter, it may be a game worth watching. Jude proves once again that the truth is an alien concept to him. River rightfully was wary of Hector, providing little useful information to a man he does not know and whose motives were not disclosed. I enjoyed this chapter as I enjoy all chapters of this important work @Biff Spork. It was a chapter with relatively little emotional turmoil, a welcome respite from the sadness and desperation of the most recent chapters. It will give me the opportunity to recharge and brace myself for the war which lies ahead, one in which I fear there will be many non-human persons perish.

Zhiv trembled. “I feel like we’re about to get sucked into the mouth of a huge machine, that we’re just a couple of kids who are gonna get chewed up. I’m afraid it’s gonna happen, but before it does, I want to be a boy with you for as long as possible. David, I’m so scared there’s not gonna be any cabin in the mountains for us. No rocking chairs on the porch. And that’s all I want.” Zhiv's yearning for lasting happiness, with joy from such simple pleasures, is heartbreaking to read. He is acutely aware of the danger he faces, yet he continues to face it. He is a truly remarkable boy, one who is an inspiration and at the same time makes one feel somewhat ashamed to voice such trite complaints in daily life. "Best of all, though, was that he was starting to feel better about himself. He hoped that meant he was turning into an okay boy." River's transformation is bringing him such joy, and yet he is still so uncertain of his worth. If a friendship with David develops it will likely increase his self-esteem. Pete's account to Doreen of "The Talk" was priceless. It is a testament to his humanity that he has settled into a vegan diet and now to realise he is OK if his son is gay. "Pete chuckled. “Not as much as I think I should. You’re right. I keep thinking it should bother me more than it does — I mean, the idea of him maybe being gay." I love how he still surprises himself, pleasantly so, with how much he has changed. He is a delight, just like his spouse and son. A mixed bag this chapter @Biff Spork. Much to enjoy, but the cloud of danger Zhiv believes hangs over him is ever present. I hope David continues to bring him boundless joy for whatever time the two have remaining.

I nominate Mr Russell for Dad of the Year, in fact, maybe Dad of the Decade. His frank discussion with Sam and Danny displayed once again how fortunate both are to have him in their lives. The boys explanation of what love meant to them was warm, funny and remarkable for their age. Danny's comment "I mean, I like the way he smells, even when he hasn't had a bath." had me in stitches. That sure sounds like real love to me. This story is similar to Growing Pains @gdaniel, but each story has its own unique attributes. I am finding each equally appealing.

"After several minutes of this, Sam's dad got up from his chair and knelt at his son's feet. As Sam looked at him without shame, fear or embarrassment, he made his decision. There was no way he couldn't love this boy and his friend, regardless of where their love for each other might take them. Well, I guess I know what those special times are, now, don't I, son." and "Yeah, dad. Thanks for being so understanding. Is mom OK with this?" "Yes, Sam, your mom and I love you dearly, and we're both Ok with this. I think Dan's mom and dad will be, too. But his dad may take a little longer to show it." Sam’s father is a revelation. I did not expect him to be so moved by is son’s love for another boy, let alone express he was OK with it, particularly given the story is set in the 1950’s. An emotional chapter for the boys, Sam’s dad and your readers too @gdaniel. I was not alive in the 1950’s but was a teenager in the late 1970’s. When I think of what I was like at a similar age to Sam and Danny, Sam and Danny are very innocent (and I was by no means well versed in the pleasures of the flesh). One often reads of how society “lost its innocence” after the sexual revolution of the late 1960’s; this is convincingly portrayed when reading this most charming of stories about two very likeable boys.

@gdaniel I agree with Pop that both couples, Mitchell and Tammy, and Jason and Alex, should be treated equally and have the same obligations and standards of behaviour to observe in the family home. Where I strongly disagree with him is his apparent blanket restriction on the couples having any oral or penetrative sexual contact with each other before marriage, although my beliefs regarding the form of the sexual contact would be subject to laws on the age of consent and if a crime is being committed by Pop if he allowed one or both couples to have oral or penetrative sex within the family home. My attitude has always been what I consider a practical one; teenagers are likely to have sex whether their parents approve of it or not. This is NOT as some would say giving them tacit approval to do so, it is recognising what may be the reality of the situation and refusing to bury one’s head in the sand because they have been told not to have sex. I believe if teenagers of any gender combination are going to have sex it is better the sex take place in the privacy of the family home, an environment where it is more likely to be hygienic, comfortable and safe, than somewhere potentially dangerous. It appears Alex’s father is not unlike Jason’s birth father, although to date his opposition to the relationship between his son and Jason does not appear as hateful and potentially violent as what Tom’s was likely to have been had he lived. Is his motivation a religious objection, a disappointment he may not have grandchildren or is it as is so often the case, the “anal sex” thing (as if this sexual practice is the exclusive domain of the gay men who practice it). Unless he is going to be a participant in or witness to the sexual relationship between his son and Jason, then what the fuck is his problem. Get over it Daddy and concentrate on your own sex life. I am not sure if your "invitation" to "heap it on me" at the end of this chapter was an invitation to share our opinions on Pop's "moral compass" @gdaniel. If it was not I apologise for having interpreted it as such. Whatever the intent, this was a very thought-provoking chapter; one that would no doubt stimulate very lively debate amongst readers in an open forum. Dare I say this is invariably a measure of an entertaining and successful author.

It appears to me Gianni's pressing desire to educate Sami about the cultural and religious beliefs of his birth parents is not necessarily shared by others, including Sami himself (he is only 7 or 8 years of age after all). Reza does not seem particularly concerned that Sami is not being made aware and he has more in common with Sami, at least as far as his religion at birth is concerned, than anyone else in Ravello. Whilst some may consider these artificial constructs crucially important, some do not. Perhaps Gianni should take a "chill pill" and let Sami be a child and respond to any questions he may have about these aspects of his former life if and when he raises them. If I may be so presumptuous to suggest Marco is more at risk than Sami. Gianni's desire to help others and his concern to make things "right" (an admirable quality to have) may be better applied to Marco's situation, something which in fairness to Gianni, he does recognise. Unless Marco is exaggerating the dire state of his home life, he could well use a friend like Gianni. I agree with @drpaladin, Giacomo is all about himself, but he always has been. He is now struggling because the two boys for whom he was the centre of their world, Dani and Marco, have formed an affection for each other. Life's tough sometimes Giacomo; deal with it. Ennio's "investigating the tree thoroughly with quivering whiskers and an expression of intense suspicion" gave me a great chuckle @James Carnarvon. I have never as an adult had a Christmas tree and would never contemplate getting one whilst I have at least one feline family member. I can only but imagine the demolition of baubles, lights and tinsel that would take place at the paws of my now youngest cat (she is 10 but acts like a 2-3 year old). I half expected Alfredo to pee on the tree, but alas he did not. Perhaps he will pee on the dreaded Brussels sprouts instead (now wouldn't that be a shame).

I don't believe Jude thinks he did anything wrong, therefore, he has nothing to be sorry for. I think his expression of sorrow was merely sorrow that he was exposed and made feel uncomfortable by Pete, whom he blamed for making him feel gloomy. Conversely, River has been wracked by guilt and shame. He acknowledged his lies to Pete and expressed great remorse that he had participated in the harming of David. River and Pete have much in common. Both have made a very significant transformation in their belief that animals are resources for humans to exploit for food, entertainment and experimentation. Pete and Doreen could be very positive role models for River if things continue to go south at the pig production hellhole. Pete was inspirational in "The Talk" with David. David's question at the end, hilarious and beautiful in its naïveté. Pete to his credit took the question in his stride, although he was unable to answer it. He did not dismiss David's question nor did he try to bluff his way through it. Another compelling chapter @Biff Spork. And that title, a very clever play on words.

@scrubber6620 I invariably read each chapter of this wonderful story twice before commenting, primarily to ensure I missed nothing the first time. Given how dense this story is, I find I often miss something the first time or interpret a scene or a phrase differently on the second occasion. I found, very much to my surprise, I wept for the death of Ricky and the apparent near-death of his twin Nicky, on the second read. Very little has been revealed about either to date, although what has been revealed has made me think they are likely very similar to their father, an arsehole. However, on second reading I wondered if the death of their mother may have removed whatever "positive" influence they may have had in life. It is the old story of nature vs nurture. I so want to loathe all those in this story who are cruel to animals, and for the most part I do, but perhaps Ricky and Nicky were victims too, victims of their odious father. As noted by you, River is becoming increasingly troubled by his prior behaviour towards David, and not just his behaviour at the gravel pit. I am not excusing his behaviour, but he has not had the benefit of parents like Doreen and Pete, both of whom set a wonderful example for David. Pete surprised yet again when "He turned his car towards Burger Baron. He’d heard they had one of those new fake meat burgers on their menu." He has embraced becoming vegan with a passion which continues to amaze and impress me in equal measure. Sheriff Morgan is revealing himself to be a most extraordinary man too. His enquiry of Zhiv "Sol?” called the sheriff, “Are you okay? Are you having a good time?” Zhiv laughed. “Better than you, I think.” “Is everything okay with you? I mean food and shelter, and like that.” “Thank you, sir. Yes, everything’s okay with me.” “How about clothes? Can I bring you some clothes?” offered the sheriff." impressed me greatly. He appeared to be genuinely concerned for Zhiv's welfare. He followed this with “You know, Pete, most of the time I like my job. I feel good about what we do because we have good laws and it’s our job to uphold them. But whenever I see that boy it’s like I see a gap between the law and justice, a gap between what’s legal and what’s right.“He’s naked in public. He’s an unaccompanied minor, a runaway from a state-approved foster home. He’s riding a murderous horse that belongs to the widow Wilkins, and he’s guiding a bunch of renegade pigs into a state park. Given that Deputy Frankl ordered him to stop, and he didn’t stop, we could probably charge him with resisting arrest too. He's breaking laws that I’ve sworn to uphold, but whenever I see him, I know that what he’s doing, what he is, is right, and that while he’s breaking some of our laws, he has justice on his side.” These words moved me tremendously @Biff Spork. I can only but wish the Sheriff may be able to protect Zhiv from the forces of evil which I fear will bring about his demise. A most wonderful chapter @Biff Spork.

I think it may only be a matter of time @gdaniel before Mitchell and Jason raise the issue of their adoption with Pop. If this be the case, there will be not a trickle of tears, it will be a torrential downpour with the three of them cyclonic. The "fair-minded" person in me, who usually gives some consideration to what is socially acceptable or the norm, is pleased Pop continues to reinforce to Mitchell that his father, Tom, was primarily a good person and father, who like us all had his faults. The less "fair-minded" person (who is primarily the stronger of the two when it comes to animal rights, gay rights, workers rights and the environment) says "fuck him", he was an arsehole. If you want to discount all the good he did and focus on his extreme homophobia, go ahead. An enjoyable read again @gdaniel. This is becoming a habit with your literary works.

“Gianni looked hopefully up into his partner’s dark eyes. “So… you think I’m strong, like a warrior?” Angelo’s mouth quirked into a familiar half-smile. “No, you’re a pussycat. But even pussycats can be strong sometimes.” I did not think it possible Gianni could be any more adorable, but it appears he is. Gianni’s gifts for Angelo were a mixture of amusing and wonderful. Introspective by the Pet Shop Boys because Gianni’s father liked them (it makes me feel old as I bought it when it was released), the amusing socks and the beautiful commissioned ceramic bowl hand-made by Elena; the latter a priceless gift. And Sami’s gift, a delight. "Confronted with Sami’s smiling face, he glanced away for a moment, before managing to look at the little boy again with an embarrassed laugh. It could have been a trick of the morning sunlight, but his dark eyes definitely looked a little brighter than usual. Gianni stared at him in amazement. Is he getting… emotional?Gianni had always doubted Angelo’s investment in their little family, but… maybe he had been wrong.” Angelo’s reserved nature on display again, with just a little crack appearing in his calm demeanour, making him even more attractive than ever too. Sami’s relationship with the older teens is reminiscent of Daniele’s friendship with Toto, Michele and Claudia when he first moved from Milan to Ravello. It is pleasing he is likely to form a connection with Luca due to their shared adoption, but I hope he does not forget about Dani and more particularly Marco. Marco is already starting to feel left out as if Sami is going to desert him. His self-esteem which appeared to be on the improve for a while, appears to be spiralling downward again. I guess this is hardly surprising given his home life. “How are things at home?” Giacomo asked the other boy quietly. Despite his best efforts to look away, Gianni sensed their eyes on him once again. He glanced back at them just in time to see Marco shrug slightly. “It’s okay,” Marco replied. “Gianni knows.” Giacomo nodded in relief. “So…” “They’re mostly ignoring me,” Marco mumbled. “But… what else is new?” If Marco is being truthful, then his mother is just as negligent as his father. She may not be bullying him like his father, but negligence takes on many forms. I don’t understand why humans have children only to then ignore them. Many will try and assuage their guilt by giving the children material things to compensate, but in Marco’s case even this is not happening because of his parents’ low paying jobs. “The vegetable garden was dormant in its bare winter clothes, with just a few withered tomato plants awaiting their spring renewal. A few long, dried-out cucuzza squashes hung from faded vines draped over a chestnut pergola that spanned the concrete staircase leading down through the terraces. All the same, under the pale starlight, the view was beautiful.” How do you do it @James Carnarvon? How do you turn something so plain and bare into a picture of beauty. @drsawzall said it best, a masterclass in wordsmithing.

@gdaniel now I understand your liberal and dare I say sane religious beliefs. The church that gave the world John Shelby Spong. I listened to him once give a talk at a gay bookshop in the centre of the gayborhood in Sydney in the mid-1980s during the height of AIDS "hysteria". He left a lasting impression on me, particularly as those present included the Sydney Anglican chapter of the Sisters Of Perpetual Indulgence, with whom he was joking and speaking freely. I had never in my life been exposed to a Christian who spoke positively about the GLBT community.

Doreen and ‘Muscles’ get along so well. ‘Muscles’ is so mature for his age. I am glad he is going to disclose his relationship with Zhiv to Pete as I have a feeling Zhiv is going to need some adults genuinely “in his corner” and I feel Doreen and Pete will if needed be there for him and David. Neither the Sheriff nor Pete seem keen to “recapture” Sol to return him to “civilised" society. I think once David discloses more information to Pete about Zhiv he will be even less enthused about recapturing him. I am ambivalent regarding Celia Duffy. I don’t want to assume she is a bad person because she wants Sol recaptured, but I have to wonder what her primary motivation for desiring this is. Is it because she believes it is for the good of Sol or is she driven by ego? She has previously mentioned Sol was her one failure in her career to date. I believe her motivation is likely a combination of both. I don’t think she is a bad person; however, I doubt she could ever truly appreciate the torture it would be for Zhiv to live in a “civilised” society again when said society has little regard for animals and the environment. I am glad David is aware he and Zhiv are somewhat “out of their league”. "He felt he and Zhiv were playing in a game far out of their league. They knew what the animals felt and thought, but they had little idea of who their opponents were or what they wanted. They knew there were forces resisting change, but those forces were faceless. He and Zhiv needed help to understand what was likely to happen as a result of the mara's decision. They had thousands of animal friends, but they needed some human allies." Those forces may be faceless and resisting change, but they are very powerful, wealthy and have politicians peddling their lies. A beautiful chapter @Biff Spork concluded with one of the most joyous events to date in this story, a declaration of love by each of the boys for the other; and the funniest line to date in this story. “How do you feel about that?” persisted David, as he handed Zhiv a fresh bag of corn chips. Zhiv tore the bag open. “They’re great chips, but I wish they were in a compostable package.” I was in stitches reading this. Zhiv is so unaffected by social norms, it was not necessary in his mind to declare his love for David in words. He had, as far as he was concerned, made such a declaration on many prior occasions with actions and meeting of their minds in the mara. 🥰🥰🥰

“I stood in the doorway for a long time, marveling at how beautiful two boys that age can be in the position they were in. I also marveled at how much I had changed over the past few years. Five years before, I would have reacted so much differently. As I looked at my son, well, almost my son... sort of... kind of... and his boyfriend, I realized I liked the new me.” And well you should like the new me Dan. Your sons’ are fortunate to have you as their father, even if the familial tie is not biological. I can only imagine the misery Mitchell's and Jason's lives would have been if their sperm donor had remained alive to tyrannically rule over their formative teenage years, filling their heads with even more of his bigoted views. Every chapter reveals more to astonish and dislike about Tom. Dan’s comment to Jason about him was priceless, “We all have our faults, and being homophobic was one of your dad's. Just try to remember the good parts and leave the trash behind” must be amongst the very best shade ever thrown; it is even more powerful because I am sure it was not Dan’s intention to diss Tom in any way. I hope Tom's piety extended to him not eating pork or shellfish and ensuring his SWAT uniform was not made of mixed fabrics. Given his fervent opposition to “faggots, queers, gays” I am prepared to stick my neck out and say the only passage in Leviticus he was concerned with, in fact obsessed with, was the one he cited to condemn the aforementioned. So often people of his ilk “cherry pick” biblical dogma to support their nonsensical beliefs. I also have to wonder if Tom may have been a little concerned about his own sexuality. This could explain his extreme vitriol. For his own sake, as well as the sake of both his sons and Alex, Tom is fortunate to have perished prematurely. Had he lived and behaved in accordance with his beliefs I think there may have been a queue to kick his arse, headed by Dan, followed perhaps by Alex’s father and likely the pastor of the church. I wonder if his wife, Nancy, shared his views. Had she not she well may have kicked him to the kerb too (if she had any sense). What troubles me most is this psychopathic cretin was also a member of a SWAT team. Presumably he was licenced to carry a gun and use it. He would have fit perfectly into Team Marjorie, Team Lauren or Team Ron. Another lively and splendidly written chapter @gdaniel Tom’s beliefs and those of many like him, reinforce my own dislike and distrust of most organised religion. If you want "fake news" just listen to the excrement which spews from the mouths of such people.

@gdaniel @drsawzall raised a good point regarding Dan's tardiness in contacting Alex; he, Dan, would not have been in a fit state to talk to Alex had he contacted him any earlier than he did. Following on from this, had Dan contacted Alex he may have not been able to provide the comfort Alex needed and perhaps may have made things worse. You may be right about Tom's homophobia having been "learned" from his father or perhaps @Mancunianmay be right in that Tom may have "learned" it in the workplace.

"Zhiv shook his head. “They’re gonna be after me for sure, now.” Zhiv is acutely aware the trouble his new-found fame may bring and he is rightfully concerned. One tends to forget he is a 13-year-old boy because he has taken such an important responsibility on his shoulders. "The boys hugged. Then David said, “This could be good. I was wondering last night how we were ever gonna to talk to people. I mean, how do we tell everyone what's happening? Nobody listens to thirteen-year-old boys. But now, you’re famous. Look, the view meter just turned to seventeen million, and it’s still climbing. We need to find a way to let you speak to all those people without anybody finding out where you are. Then we can tell them how the animals are feeling, and what they want. People will start to understand what’s going on.” I wish I shared David’s faith in his fellow humans, but alas I do not. I think his limited life experience, coupled with his loving, happy and safe home life has not prepared him for what potentially lay ahead for him, but more particularly for Zhiv. He has experienced bullying at the hands of Jude and River, but having bacon shoved down your throat and being manhandled by them, will pale into insignificance compared to the tactics employed by those industry groups with a vested interest in the continuation of the slaughter and torture of non-human persons for the "benefit" of human persons. One only has to look at the negative reactions to Zhiv’s rescue of the pigs, the incessant whining of Mrs Wilkins regarding her “ownership” of the horses (if only her chickens had silenced her permanently before they left), the threats made by the odious Art Jamieson and the flak from the agriculture lobby and Pork Producers Association. Politicians worldwide kowtow to the likes of the latter, powerful lobbyists who pump money into the election campaigns of those who support their practices. They generally don't give a flying fuck about the rights of animals, not when there is money to be made. Pete will not rest until Jude and River admit what they did to his beloved David. I doubt his persistence will pay off with Jude, he is a liar, and seemingly lies without compunction. River though is a completely different boy. His treatment of David is already causing him great distress, it will take minimal pressing on Pete’s part to obtain a confession from him. I believe Pete will honour David’s request though and not attempt to arrest either boy. A prophetic chapter I fear @Biff Spork. I fear for Zhiv’s safety more and more with the passing of each chapter. He now poses a potential threat to those with much to lose financially. He does not at this point in time have an advocate for his protection either, although if asked and able, I believe Pete and Doreen would welcome him into their lives. He will not however, survive in a society with such scorn for non-human persons. And finally @Biff Spork, mankind. If it were a portmanteau of man and kind it would be the greatest misnomer of all time.

I must say @gdanielI am a little surprised and disappointed it took Pop (Dan) four hours to call Alex to let him know Jason was safe and resting comfortably for now with Mitchell. The only reasonable explanation I can think of for this oversight is that he, Dan, was also so devastated with the events which took place, both during Mitchell's assault on Jason and thereafter. Dan may also not realise how traumatised Alex was likely to have been by the whole episode. I was pleasantly surprised to learn Alex's parents do not have an issue with he and Jason forming a relationship. I cannot remember for sure, but I seem to recall they attend the same church Dan and the boys attend, the same one which Tom and Nancy also attended. I would like to be able to hold the church accountable for Tom's rabid anti-gay beliefs, but seemingly his dogmatic rhetoric was not absorbed whilst in attendance at this particular church. Another well written and believable chapter @gdaniel. It would appear Alex and Jason are both very sensitive and tender-hearted, in fact, Alex may be even more so. His extreme physical response (and this is not a criticism of him) is of concern. It may be solely attributable to the violence of Mitchell's reaction, but I think not.

You will not be sorry @James Baxter; @raven1 's recommendation was sage indeed. I recommend you read the stories in order of their publication to derive the most pleasure from them. They are essentially chronological, the one exception being La Bella Vacanza. Your comments above indicate you are well on the way to being a convert, a Carnarvonite if you will. @James Carnarvon is a most gracious author too, as you will soon discover. He takes the time to acknowledge those of us who appreciate his work, something which I value greatly.

“Personally,” said the sheriff as he leaned forward over his desk, “I’d be proud to meet him. It would be an honor to shake his hand. I definitely don’t want to catch him for Social Services or arrest him as if he’s some kind of criminal. I don’t know what he’s been doing for the last year, but whatever it is, it’s turned him into the kind of person I wish I was.” I believe the Sheriff’s sentiments echo those of Pete yet unspoken. I got the distinct impression when Celia rang asking if Zhiv (Sol) could be caught to be returned to another foster home Pete was less than enamoured with the idea. “River closed his eyes and said, “Yeah.” He didn’t want to talk about what had forced those tears out. It wasn’t the pain from the rattlesnake bites. It was much worse than that, and he knew it wasn’t going to go away in a few days.” River’s redemption appears to be well on the road to completion. He faces insurmountable odds, the likes of his father, Art, in particular. I cannot express my true opinion of Art, there are not enough expletives to adequately describe this odious man. The only expletive with any shock value left is one which cannot be used without censure when commenting on GA. Suffice to say I wish him harm or better still death at the hands of the non-human persons he continues to torture, maim and kill. Melissa’s video has started a movement, a feel-good movement embracing animal rights. The question I have is will it last, or have many people “jumped on the bandwagon” because it is the latest “thing”. Outstanding chapter @Biff Spork. The animals have received some “good press” thanks to the pig rescue undertaken by Zhiv, but I fear it won’t last. There is much money to be made in the murder of non-human persons, and not just for eating them. Those with a vested interest will not lay down quietly, they will fight with the ferocity their power and wealth have entitled them.

The revelation Marco’s father Lorenzo is an oafish brute came as no surprise to me. I, like Gianni, was disappointed in Marco’s mother Gemma; she did naught to stop Lorenzo's homophobic rantings, although it would not surprise if she too has been a victim of the brute. “Lorenzo…” Gemma ventured timidly from the corner of the alleyway, but Lorenzo flicked a hand at her, silencing her with an impatient noise” indicates she is at least in fear of her husband. Has she been a victim of physical abuse from him or has it been restricted to verbal abuse, him bullying and belittling her. I was pleasantly surprised Marco stood up to his father; he did not cower, although he may have been emboldened by the presence of Gianni and Elena. Is it any wonder he was so distraught when Giacomo and Emilia appeared to have dropped him from their friendship group in favour of Daniele. Giacomo and Emilia were his only outlet for happiness it would appear; he sought solace in their company because his home life was shit. Elena was a most pleasant surprise; she took Lorenzo to task over his brutish behaviour. She is far more formidable than I have given her credit. Lorenzo’s accusation against Gianni particularly rankled. I was waiting for the accusation to be made from the moment Marco sought refuge, albeit by accident, in the arms of Gianni and Elena. He, Lorenzo, is so predictable. As the drama unfolded and Marco headed off to school I pondered if intervention from Salvatore may be of use and lo and behold Gianni crosses his path. If I recall correctly Salvatore did not abuse Toto either physically or emotionally when Toto revealed his attraction to Michele, he merely expressed his confusion. He made the effort to understand his son whom he dearly loved. It appears Lorenzo has a more distant relationship with Marco than Salvatore does with Toto; it will not surprise me if Lorenzo lacks the desire to understand Marco, and if this be the case, Marco is better off without him. I would usually never recommend someone seek guidance from a priest or the like, but if Lorenzo has any desire to understand Marco, it may be useful to speak to the priest at the local church (I cannot recall his name). If I remember correctly, he offered wise counsel to both Gianni and Toto when they were struggling with their sexuality. Sami’s first day at school was not a success; unsurprisingly some of the children present were not welcoming. Gianni’s attempt to counteract Sami’s unhappiness and despair and the responses he gave to Sami’s questions were, to my inexperienced mind, spot on. His panic attack which followed was likely cathartic as suggested by my fellow reader @drsawzall. A profoundly moving chapter @James Carnarvon, very impressively written with just the right amount of emotion and high drama. In addition to your beautifully written descriptive language for all things natural and man-made, you have a real talent for the emotional. It is my observation you belong to the school of ‘less is more’, an approach I find so much more effective as you don’t fall into the trap of diminishing the impetus and impact of an emotional scene by the use of excessive melodrama. The scene dominated by Marco and his father's fight rang true because of this skill you possess. Angelo may say “That’s so British” as he did in chapter 3. I forgot to mention this in my comments on that chapter; I found it very amusing, particularly when I “heard” Gianni’s response to Angelo, “bloody Italians”.

I have always assumed, rightly or wrongly, Angelo is one of those rare and very admirable people, who do not need to hear the sound of their own voice, particularly in larger, group settings, to validate themselves. This was never so evident as when he chose not to "bite" when Monica (whom I incorrectly referred to as Monica’s mother rather than Emilia’s mother in comments on chapter 2) made her tactless comments about Da Rossi, the restaurant owned by Pietro and Anna. I think you write him exceedingly well @James Carnarvon. I find him intriguing, a person I have enjoyed getting to know more about. The “air of mystery” which stills surrounds him only increases his appeal. For me at least, he has been and continues to be, so much more than what I initially thought. I can vaguely recall when making comments on a prior book in the Ravello series, making similar remarks after initially dismissing him. He has been a revelation like no other character in your repertoire. He may be difficult for you to write, but his appeal continues to strengthen, for me at least.

On the contrary @James Carnarvon, I think the story is a good fit for me. I was perhaps too narrow in the focus of my prior comments. I have read many stories about gay couples fostering and/or adopting children and have invariably found them interesting and moving, even though the urge to parenthood (at least of human children) has never struck me. As this story continues I will not be at all surprised if my investment in the Gianni/Angelo and Sami relationship increases, particularly if Marco forges a strong relationship with Gianni and Marco, which he, Marco, seems desirous of. If this occurs, I think it quite possible Sami's relationship with his fathers, particularly with Gianni, will blossom. I would not be a good parent to human children as I don't have the patience required and would find it very difficult to have fair expectations of them (I am like this with myself, I am my own harshest critic). At my age (59) this is not likely to change. I am very fond of Marco (the prickly one 🤣) and look forward to the development of his storyline, particularly if Daniele (whom I adore, and not just for his penchant for tie dyed clothing) is central to the plot. I also look forward to more from Gianni, who I have always liked, and Angelo, who has grown on me significantly since his first appearance. This story, more than any of its predecessors, has made me realise Angelo is the ideal partner for Gianni; his outgoing personality, laissez-faire attitude to life and great sense of humour the perfect antidote for Gianni's melancholy and angst. He is I believe fiercely protective of Gianni and appears always mindful of his propensity to melancholy, offering him comfort and space when needed. The strengthening of their bond and its lasting appeal I have mostly attributed to Gianni to date. I now believe I have been completely wrong in my thinking, if anything, Angelo may have been even more instrumental in the endurance of their union. He is deserving of the award for being the "star in my eye" for Gianni.

I don’t think the conclusion of the chapter was unrealistic @gdaniel, although the desired outcome may have taken a little longer to achieve than the relatively short time it apparently took. I was surprised the homophobic poison had been planted in Mitchell’s mind by his late biological father, Tom. In hindsight it makes perfect sense that such bullshit had been festering in Mitchell’s mind for a long time, that it had been planted there by someone whom he greatly admired and was keen to impress. What a toxic jackass Tom must have at least partially been. In retrospect it was as well he died early in Mitchell and Jason’s lives, otherwise he may have been the one beating Jason. Given his profession, he would likely have possessed guns which he could have used to murder his “fucking faggot son”. Although I understand the motivation, Pop (Dan’s) verbal assault on Mitchell troubled me greatly, particularly the insults he delivered regarding Mitchell’s vegetarian diet and refusal to kill animals. What troubled me the most about these comments, which I accept were said by Dan in jest, is that I have no doubt there are those who would think like this, the type of moronic human who will often link homosexuality to bestiality/paedophilia to veganism to socialism/communism to the breakdown of society (and some of them may not even be Republicans). I must say @gdaniel I found this chapter very authentic; it is set in Texas after all. Lettuce licker though. It almost sounds like an exotic sexual practice, perhaps something akin to salad tossing.

@James Carnarvon my fellow readers have made some interesting and astute observations regarding the relationship between Gianni and Sami. I have had very little experience (read none) in relating to children as an adult as none of my friends have had children by choice. I have never had any desire to father children myself, but have enjoyed fostering numerous cats and kittens in the past 15 years, all of which with one exception were to varying degrees a joy to foster. Human children hold no appeal for me so Gianni’s frustration and feelings of failure and rejection I can only partially identify with. @dutch woman's comments appear very astute “… but in many fostering cases it does not click between child and adult, little to do about it. Gianni shouldn't put his hopes too high……Friendship with other children is easier. And the fact that Sami protected his drawing of his parents so much shows that he can't let go of his parents yet.” It may transpire Gianni and Angelo are not the “right fit” for Sami, but Gianni should not see this as a reflection of himself (easy for me to say, much harder for him to accept). @drsawzall's comment “I find it interesting that Marco is finding some semblance of comfort/security with Gianni and Angelo...Could Marco hold the key or be the link that brings Sami closer to Gianni and Angelo???” reflected thoughts I had myself whilst reading this chapter. It appears Marco has been and continues to be neglected somewhat by his parents, even if that neglect is only not caring enough to spend time with him and enquire about his life. This may give him “an edge” over the others in Sami’s life in understanding Sami. With or without the aid of Daniele and/or Giacomo, I believe Marco very well may hold the key for Gianni and Angelo to become closer to Sami. If Sami observes a burgeoning friendship between Gianni and Marco, it may encourage him to reach out to Gianni too. Another well written chapter @James Carnarvon, but one has come to expect nothing less than this from you. You held my attention and captivated me with your writing, even though I am not as invested in the Gianni/Angelo and Sami relationship as many of my fellow readers. I have to say I enjoyed the mere mention of my beloved scraping cicadas (which have been out full force in Sydney, Australia of late) and was charmed once again with the description of the avenue of oleanders. You have mentioned them in passing before, but for some reason I was particularly struck with them in this chapter.

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