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Few others explored this section within psychology after the two decades old research. It definitely is tragic, but it is something we can all sympathize with, which makes it a rather odd expression of love rather than a taboo. Psychology can only do so much to treat patients, if they remain in love with their dead partner, you can't always change them or give them new emotional anchors. To them, it is a promise to keep their love soley with that partner. Fidelity is a social construct, but when people enter romances we expect it. Love beyond what many great writers like to describe is not merely pleasure, but is intrinsically painful due to our human frailties. A taboo unacceptable to human beings must never be sympathetic or understood.
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Again, it depends, does the necrophilia have any personal experiences with the corpse during its life? If the necrophilia is purely an attraction to an "object", i.e. a corpse, then it is far closer to sex toy fantasy. In this case, I would not define it as an attraction, more like a fetish However, if the necrophilia is connected to experience and the person is carrying on a "living" expression of the love that he/she had with the deceased, it becomes a different expression. The last research conducted on this was done in 1989 and, based on the methodology/research sample, I would conclude they did not use a wider cross-cultural base of subjects to survey. Despite this fact, the second highest reason (21%) why necrophilia exist was "reunion with their lost partner". To me, the subject is not really taboo beyond the realm of potential acceptance. (Weird, I agree, but if you love someone that much; I am not going to stop you.) On the other hand, a fetish is a fetish. It is not an attraction or hold inherent emotional reception.
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I heard that urban legend before (The version I heard was that the girl had given a guy her apartment keys and he kept going back to her every night, until he discovered sores on his body The police told him the girl had died weeks before after a sexual encounter.) Outside of having sex, which I agree is debatable, loving the dead is not taboo. It is an expression of love that is deeper than most and praised in certain context, because few people will ever go that far for their deceased lover. As incest is more than just raunchy sex between brothers/sisters/first cousins, there is an aspect of love that makes the concept less shocking and less taboo in different societies.
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Depends on how far the necrophilia goes and what culture we are referencing: Chinese for thousands of years have practiced ghost marriages between living people and deceased ones. There have been amazingly sad stories about lovers, who lose their soul mates and marry them through the ritual, then hold onto their corpses. (Yes, it's a real thing and still exists to the modern day; despite pushes for its end from time to time over the centuries) In the US, we don't perform those kinds of rituals, because as you say thorne, it freaks people out, but it is an accepted tradition in China. As for sex, the implication is kind of weird, but among Chinese folklore, there are references. I don't know how far the actual consumation goes, nor do I particularly care. Look up the variety of ghost marriage rituals, you might find it interesting. (As a special note on my story, I know readers of my story will ask this question: There is no such thing as gay ghost marriages in the past in Chinese folklore or even the diverse schools of Asian myths Homosexuality and relationships are referenced, just not commitment as far as I know.)
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Chapter 4: (Alex’s Excerpt from Book of Fate) We failed; I failed. This isn’t some perfect crime drama, where you can save every potential victim. No, I probably led the killer to her, because she was an easy “target”. Airport security may look sophisticated, but our technology is far more advanced. Ironically, low-tech approaches are the best; the FBI safe houses are randomized with several contingent false positives within our own systems. Even if the killer broke into our
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It can be made acceptable or else you wouldn't have so many walking dead fans. Necrophilia is used for tragedy and exploration of love beyond mortality. It can be dramatic theme in horror. At the moment, it might be more acceptable than incest due to popular appetites.
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Both as an individual's openness eventually will become or was already a group concept, if history is our guide.
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Retro Cartoon Review: BTAS Appointment in Crime Alley, the perfect episode
W_L posted a blog entry in Life is worth an entry
I thought I would review a classic, something many of today's kids and even GA's readers will not know about. Here is a link to the show, but there are commercials (Still worth it for the wonderful episode and story) http://www.thewb.com/shows/batman-the-animated-series/appointment-in-crime-alley/f3d24d04-d421-4790-bb86-eb6e72336ae2 General Plot (Spoilers): Daggett, a corrupt real estate developer, is hatching a plan to blow up a slum called Crime Alley, which is home to thugs, drug dealers, and an assortment of rough characters. Daggett hires an arsonist to blow the entire neighborhood up and make it look like a gas line break. Bruce/Batman is preparing for his yearly appointment at Crime Alley with Dr. Leslie Thompkins. Batman is delayed due to a bunch of thugs trying to evict an African American Woman and her child from their apartment in the slum. (You don't see this type of social commentary in cartoons, it was the first time I remembered as a kid that cartoon hero defended an minority person over a reasonable issue) Due to this delay, Dr. Thompkins searches for Batman and discover the fieindish plot. The arsonists tie her up and intend to blow her up along with a bunch of poor people living in a subsidize hotel building. (Again more real world issues) Batman gets further delayed by another man, who had lost his home due to the same evil Real Estate developer. The "homeless" man has a gun and takes one of the Real Estate Developer's office clerk hostage over a rooftop demanding retribution and his old life back. After a short fight, Batman rescues the hostage and subdues the guy. (more social Commentary about destitution and poverty) He goes to Dr. Thompkin's home and we realize why he knows her and why he always goes to Crime Alley, it is the place that his parents were shot and murdered at. As Batman frantically searches for his friend, he gets delayed again as a trolley is ripping through Gotham due to the driver having a heart attack. Batman is exacerbated, but he rescues the passengers and driver. Batman finds Dr. Thompkins and disables most of the bombs, except a few that destroyed some abandonned buildings. At the same time, Daggett is giving a speech on urban renewal. Daggett stages a Press conference, but Batman one ups him and reveals the thugs that he captured and interrogated. Daggett denies any knowledge of his thugs actions. It is strongly implied that he will get away with it despite Batman's best efforts or the testimony of his thugs, because he was wealthy and powerful. Batman was ready to knock him out, but Dr. Thompkins calms him down. At the end of the episode, they go to the spot where Bruce's parents were murdered, both of them lamenting that "Good people live in Crime Alley" despite the tragic past and present. At the end, we see a picture of Dr. Thompkins comforting a young Bruce Wayne after his parents were murdered. Review: Seriously, the episode had everything right that most Cartoons cannot seem to reach. It was action packed, but it held deeper meaning and gives kids, especially impressionable 7 years olds like me, a good example to look up to. It held dramatic undertones and tension, because the events depicted in the episode could be real and reflect Batman not as a "Superhero", who saves the world from destruction, but a real "hero" with flaws and humanity who does the right thing. Guess what, Batman doesn't always win against real world villains. He sometimes has to settle for what he can get, the safety of the innocent and the guilty walking free of "justice". An imperfect world with a perfect hero, this story is a decade before the Dark Knight. In addition to that, I have not seen many Kids cartoons that tackle real world issues so brilliantly that even as an Adult, I can still re-watch this episode and enjoy it, maybe even more now than before. After so many years of comic books, movies, and TV shows, I understand why Batman does his crime fighting, it is not the Joker or Penguin or Mr. Freeze, which propels him. The reason why Batman fights crime is right there in the middle of a slum where two red roses are laid down in remembrance of what he lost. The art "noir" of Batman TAS is famous, it is dark filled with shadow and allusion. On an artistic level, this episode captures that interesting aesthetic feel as well. You get a gritty cartoon with shadowy characters and a shadowy Batman. Animation in the US has been on the lagging end of the spectrum in recent years, I prefer Japanese Anime's more nowadays personally. However, I feel the uniqueness of Batman TAS' artisti animation is probably still worth noting and comparing to the best Japanese Anime of today. It proves that emotions do need full color or graphics to be animated. Contrast with shades of colors can do the same and perhaps show a richer emotional portrait of characters if the script is written well. For me, Christian Bale will always be a second Tier Batman compared to Kevin Conroy's voice acted Batman Batman TAS. This episode brings a tear to my eye as it touches the heart on many levels. ----------------------------- A perfect 5/5 episode for me. Anyone want me to review something else -
Feeling nostalgic for our old box The ultimate question left unanswered is: what is truly too taboo for human beings to ever accept? Morality and Ethics only last for a short period of time, sexuality has been acceptable and decried, and love continues to be explored in every conceivable passion. Seriously, what can't people accept is the ultimate question to Sasha's OP?
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The education system is fundamentally flawed.
W_L commented on advocatus diaboli's blog entry in advocatus diaboli's Blog
Well you reference the failures of the US system in youe first post which I agree with by the way and also consider to be one of the worst in the world, so thought it'd be fun to look at the UK Cultural relativity is fascinating. However, what we are discussing is true of Canada as it is the US and UK. Educational potential is not reached. However, where we differ is the concept that AD raised originally, Utility in education. I see education's future as far more focused rather than splintered as AD also noted in his blog. You seem to be pointing to the need for more humanities "rounding" in education. One of the key issues in modern education is how rounded it is rather than creating focus. Don't get me wrong, I agree in rounded education in primary education though, not entirety of education. How useful is calculus to a tradesman or doctor? Does a mechanic or chemical engineer need to know the capital of Poland is warsaw? Practical aspects would be better than a splatter of facts. -
The education system is fundamentally flawed.
W_L commented on advocatus diaboli's blog entry in advocatus diaboli's Blog
"You need a quality education system. Which, sadly with some exceptions, Britain does not have" We can agree to that general point; though I still see more similarities than differences in your curriculums Zombie, what is your definition of social mobility? It is easy to see the difference beteeen a coal miner versus an executive of Alcoa. However, even if you worked in plumbing, i'd respect you as a professional. Without trade workers maintaining or building our infrastructure, there would be no economy. I see our economies as filled with far too much service rather than trade skills. -
The education system is fundamentally flawed.
W_L commented on advocatus diaboli's blog entry in advocatus diaboli's Blog
There are many areas of the British system that still remains even after Devolution and the beginnings of drifts in the UK. American schools usually operate in a three tier system of primary, middle, and secondary education. The Current model in England, Wales, and Scotland education is Primary up to 11 year old and Secondary up to 18 (legally until 16 in Wales) without the third tier split in the middle. After 1997 Devolution, Scotland, England, and Wales have different focuses on education curriculum, but structurally with exceptions like the new Foundation phase in Wales (Which I really do commend them starting by the way) your educations do seem to follow similar tracks. Scotland began their changes last academic year 2012-2013, but I haven't heard much reported from the BBC on it for a while. Just saying you guys are still really close as a system, despite the administrative split. I am principally referring to the humanities studies that are still part of your core National Curriculum. Anyway, I think an education system needs to serve the population and the student's interest. Also, despite what education proponents might say, I do not believe that "standard" education itself is the path to better life or social mobility. A person can make extremely good money being a mechanic or a plumber (Ask the guy who charges me 500.00 to screw back a leaky pipe ). Trades and crafts are still lucrative professions and comparable to professional training in other fields like psychology, forensics, engineering, architecture, and finance/accounting despite how our jobs are glorified Only at the high ends of our professions, which are now occupied by Baby Boomers, who will not release those positions, do you really see Professional training rising ahead of technical fields. Seriously, as long as my boss does not quit and there is limited or no salary increase, I think trade jobs are making close to my own salary if not more with volume. -
The education system is fundamentally flawed.
W_L commented on advocatus diaboli's blog entry in advocatus diaboli's Blog
Zombie, you do know he's criticizing a british model syatem with all that stuff I tend to agree with AD as technical education has more applications in learning and skill sets than a classical education founded on humanities I.e. history, religion, general english, and secondary languages. I liked learning latin, but I do not use it in my life, nor do I need to recite the aeneid for an audience at a forum The classical route of education is not a panacea for world issues as its advocates once believed, they also thought "civilized" european or even chinese culture were superior to less advanced peoples. In asia, this type of classical confucian orthodoxy kept societies in stagnation for centuries. In Europe, despite renaissance development in concepts, antiquity knowledge reigned supreme for centuries. Knowing the arguments of plato and socrates does not create usable knowledge. I have said this before, knowledge without context is useless. Regimenting knowledge creates little utility for education that prepares a person for careers or life. -
Welcome to the world of Philip K. Dick Now all we need is human acting robots with a soul and a mystery plot
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I don't want to say it, but I think Brady should seek a trial separation at least during football season I kid you not, my theory for his bad passing is the "curse" of Gisele. He's never been the same, since he's been with her: throwing away a perfect season, losing to the Giants twice in Superbowls (Including the same infamous perfect season), and now the Jets
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I want to congratulate the state on being the 14th to have gay marriage. Gov. Christie stopped his legal challenge, so the way is now clear. Technically, I know he's not a gay rights' supporter or even advocate, but at the very least, he stopped fighting it and let the course of history be the judge. It might cost him the Republican Nomination for President, but he has my praise at least for being a leader with some balls to take on things he doesn't agree with, but his constituents overwhelmingly agreed. Is he a RINO? Possibly, but he at least put his opinion aside for a good cause. Anyway, who thinks Pennsylvania or Ohio will be next
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We can't even put men on the moon anymore Problem is polarization has compromised the concept of "independent" commissions. Even when states attempted that practice, the commissions are invariably thrown truck loads of money or get phone calls from their pastors with the general thought being "God is watching you" Too much partisanship has poisoned the prospect of an independent commission. Plus nearly half of Americans do not vote, so any commission chosen by the people would certainly be partisan. Personally, I think we are headed for a 2nd Civil War if this continues.
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Except, it is 300 years old and Enlightenment based along with more God than the British system
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I'll consider it, if I can get Cel on a date
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http://www.gayauthors.org/forums/story/w-l/Causality/4 Time to get into the case, but first, we must get into a little more complexity. There's a lot of set up here and some interesting things to think about for the next few chapters. You get to learn more about Sid, Alex, and Patrick, plus flow through their psychological issues surrounding the past, present, and future Also, since I was told I should not use too many non-english scripts too much, I had to adjust the story. Spanish is easy to work with for the storyline as well. As for the interesting final note, for those on GA, who have known me for years, you guys all know I am proficient Latin reader and writer. Ego posse Romanum sum I can also do a little ancient Greek, but I prefer not to have to write it. Latin is a complex language, it has meanings within meanings. While you can be grammatically correct with a slightly different case endings to a noun, you will change its meaning completely if you do not understand its use or why it is used the way it is. I mention that, because I am leaving a very big grammar mistake with my final statement that classical latin scholars will pick up. As I said, I love word games and I love math games, if readers like to play along reading my story be my guess and point things out.
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Chapter 3: (Sid’s Excerpt from Book of Fate) Fuck, I should not have had that much beer last night. It is the last time I listen to a ghost about letting loose after a stressful day. Yet, outside of the obvious headache, I am actually feeling good about life and myself. I’ve been compartmentalizing my mind for years due to the large amount of emotions and memories. I know psychologically, it is not healthy and I have tried methods to release issues through conventional means;
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Come on, pokes the zombie... I understand, the political spectrum is not shaped in any form that can be placed into reference; perhaps if we could picture a Hypercube spinning in its 4 dimensional glory, then a politial shape could form to suit everyone's tastes Btw, here is Burke's defense of the American Revolution: "I do not mean to commend either the spirit in this excess, or the moral causes which produce it. Perhaps a more smooth and accommodating spirit of freedom in them would be more acceptable to us. Perhaps ideas of liberty might be desired, more reconcilable with an arbitrary and boundless authority. Perhaps we might wish the colonists to be persuaded, that their liberty is more secure when held in trust for them by us (as their guardians during a perpetual minority) than with any part of it in their own hands. The question is, not whether their spirit deserves praise or blame, but--what, in the name of God, shall we do with it? You have before you the object, such as it is, with all its glories, with all its imperfections on its head. You see the magnitude; the importance; the temper; the habits; the disorders. By all these considerations we are strongly urged to determine something concerning it. We are called upon to fix some rule and line for our future conduct, which may give a little stability to our politics, and prevent the return of such unhappy deliberations as the present......" Edmund Burke Speech on Reconciliation with Colonies Love that highlighted line, he is truly a man, who believes in reason and rationalism over populism and excess in either brutality or democracy However, his opening lines give you a good reason why the US has an issue with fixing our own constitution that Great Britain does not: "In this character of the Americans, a love of freedom is the predominating feature which marks and distinguishes the whole: and as an ardent is always a jealous affection, your colonies become suspicious, restive, and untractable, whenever they see the least attempt to wrest from them by force, or shuffle from them by chicane, what they think the only advantage worth living for. This fierce spirit of liberty is stronger in the English colonies probably than in any other people of the earth" The American spirit of freedom is a dangerous double edged sword, both to foreign interference and internal policies. Burke was right about the nature of Americans far more than Alexis de Tocqueville.
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Hmm...you ever thought about being a classical liberal zombie, sounds like you have been converted to free market philosophy I loved that speech from burke and his determination to instill controls against excess democracy in the form of mobs and irrational revolution. Have you ever read his defense of the American revolution, a brilliant piece as well on civil justice and rational needs of the citizenry..
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Tea Party Movement and the Red Guard of the Cultural Revolution
W_L commented on W_L's blog entry in Life is worth an entry
Order is not static either, it is the nature of normal life. People go to work, buy groceries, invest in business ventures, and have families. While its details has changed, for 4000 years people have done all the aspects of "order" those are core conservative ideals or human customs that we accept. For people who view custom as maleable status quo, it becomes dangerous to society as a whole, allowing revolution to trump common sense. Why Tea Party and red guard comparison, if tea party has no government support. Ah, here is the Cultural revolutions saddest truth, there was very little actual government involvement. Chairman Mao said a few words, he was going senile at the time. The. Communist party were changing leaders, but a small element wanted more power. Oeganizing rallies, starting national and local branches of the red guard, and inciting anger over the changing leadership. As for who determines the line between just cause and unjust cause, it is the victor. Realistically challenging authority has not always worked or been good for society. The US experimented alcohol abolition in the 1920s, because groups of Americans wanted to remove the vice. What happened next? A surge in crime and bootleg speakeasies. Popular ideals may not seem wrong on its surface, but they enforce issues that cannot be balanced against reality. Racism has not ended in the US, it is less pronounced and politically corrected, but it is still here. Liberals attempt social engineering through legislation , but is the end results truly their goals. Finally on the debt, I own a piece of it through my 401k around about 1/ billionth. Other Americans own more. While the Chinese and Japanese own $2 trillion, Americans own close to $7-8 trillion. Debt can be reformed if the American public is willing to work out a plan with government. More Americans now own a piece of this country than ever before. We have skin in the game. The heart of traditional conservatism is that property rights must be defended. should my money in US debt be undefended? Years ago, when Bluesox and I argued over the US debt, my argument of its weakness was the growing need for foreign capital vs. Domestic. Now the pendulum is back in American debt holders. My desire for the US debt is one based on domestic ownership creating a nation with a reciprocal need between people and state. Owning American Debt is patriotic in a way that no other ownership is. You are buying a piece of this country and have a vested interest in its survival -
Tea Party Movement and the Red Guard of the Cultural Revolution
W_L posted a blog entry in Life is worth an entry
Side Note before my comparison: I have seriously been considering moving to Australia (Graeme, I am looking at Perth, don't worry I won't move next door. ) My sister is over there now and the job opportunities are more lucrative for Accountants, plus I have a certain interest in Australian boys. Still it is only exploratory at the moment Besides, I think I can adjust to Australian Politics far better than Canadian (We won't have Hockey fist fights) _____________________ As a Chinese guy, I think about the connections between my culture and civilization's past with the present. I am a first generation Chinese guy, so it is far more prescient in my thoughts than many others. When I look at Conservatism today, I wonder what has become of the Free market and independent principles that were the foundations. I have seen in the last few weeks a startling and disturbing reality between the past and present. For students of history or Chinese kids who listened to their parents talk about their past, China's Cultural revolution was one of the most bitter and tragic pieces of history. The Cultural Revolution was created to "Drive out Tradition" and usher "paradise". The Communists leaders of the day were seen as "corrupt" due to their positions, the factory administrator seemed "corrupt" due to their control, the teachers were "corrupt" due to their rules against Student Freedom, and Parents were "Corrupt" due to guiding their children. In essence, any form of leadership was "corrupt" and had to be fought. Factories stopped working, Farmers stopped planting, and teenagers roamed free under the banner of the "Red Guard", the "front line of the Revolution". Tens of Millions would die due to starvation, disease, and "suicides" by political assertion. My uncle was a young teen, who joined up with the group; though he regrets it to this date. My Aunt died of disease at age 13. Both sets of my grandparents were teachers and were attacked by their own students for being "enforcers" and "traditionalists". My paternal grandfather is an ardent Marxist, but he was viewed as a "traditionalist" and far too "western" to be a teacher of the "Revolution". It is a tragic part of my family's history. Yet, How can a Communist internal strife be linked to the Modern Tea Party movement, a Conservative movement? Think about the underlying concepts between the two: Authority is evil in both cases and must be fought even if it means suffering for anyone else. Ideology triumphs over practical concerns. Look around you, how far are these groups willing to go? How much will they risk to seek "Revolution"? Anti-Intellectualist and Anti-Traditionalist, Tea Party Patriots openly challenge a need for Debt raising doubting both Conservative economists and Republican leadership despite what could have become a massive issue with our own economic standing and internal operations from the farmers seeling crops for fall harvest to the importer, who is trying to buy goods for resale in the US. Confidence and psychological factors are hallmarks of Austrian and Chicago School of Economics, not Keynesian. I am not talking about the Oct 17th deadline either; these guys were willing to push us pass Nov 1st for the real "Thing". How about the revolt within society? Some may say, "You can't compare us with them, because we haven't hurt anyone, only challenge authority. That is the right of every American!!!" The Red Gaurd did not directly kill anyone either in most cases, the stories I have heard over the years from my grandparents and uncle mathes this point. Terror rather than murder was the heart of the "Cultural Revolution". A Revolt against the "Establishment" and challenges on authority, whether it is rational or not. No one needed to be killed by a secret police force like in "V" for Vendetta, no it is far more insidious than that. Terror can dominate human pereption far better than a tangible use of force. This has occurred in the US for the last 3 years. The right to challenge authority is not enshrined in the Constitution; it is part of the Declaration of Independence, but it is not Official government policy or law. You have freedom of speech and associations to do with as you please, but there is a line. As a conservative, it is against my own concept of order to attack order and attack custom. The Tea party movement on this point alone show they are not conservatives, but in many ways, much more socialist oriented except for their platform being based on conservatism. (Nope, I am not going to draw a Godwin here, but you an make up your own mind) Holding mass rallies, trumpeting "national" ideals, and pushing for a purge to eliminate ideological foes within their own ranks. This is not merely a description of the Nazi, but the Red Guard as well. Now, we are left with the last part of the Cultural Revolution, a disruption of infrastructure and millions dead due to it. It has not occurred, thankfully. Yet, it is far from over.
