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does it depend if you got a fool around type as a partner?? like JFK, Clinton, Nyte?? the hard thing about open is?? competition? More Breakups? Change in Ranking, becoming #2? anyone see the TV series BIG LOVE??

there is an arm quad processor thats great for 3d graphics ... especially with shading ... i doubt ipad3 has it I forgot if it was nvidia or samsung but having diff kinds of arm processors is worst than having a intel duo core or icore your locked into a certain os

Any one excited with iPAD3? why?

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/rutgers_webcam_trial_family_fr.html Ojha lied under oath ... nice ... next to ravi - falsifying evidence Ravi felt uncomfortable with a gay student then he and him should request room changes and be in best manners until the switch can be done. If that were done someone would be alive. The business character witness yielded nothing of value in homo knowledge but proved invaluable about how they didn't take a personal interest in ravi. Really its only about looking good to testify ... you know the father is the principle investor in R-Squared ... pretty much the owners son. I wonder how the father n mother n sibling will do on the stand? Especially when they will be asked the same question as with the others with the added challenge of "why not?" That will cast the light how much they don't know their own son. Perhaps that is the case of being rich or poor ... its the case of good parenting ... Arguments of we bough food, clothes, etc ... but something is missing ... It be interesting to find out who's job it is to teach their son tolerance, respect, n privacy? Is "uncomfortable" enough of a motive? I say look at history of that word when met up with roommates ... It varies to those that did nothing bad to those that did something very bad ... Now we get to see one that has to deal with the consequences ... real ones ... not karma ... Sure when in my college we were tripled ... I was uncomfortable ... with both of my roommates because we all don't know each other. Eventually we would be facing who will be left to find his own roommate. But none of us did any thing like ravi. The blessing is that the choice was made and everyone move on. Shouldn't that be with every student?

yeah thanks for all the hard work

Happy Birthday !!!

Ok today's was a bunch of character witness ... The interesting question ... I hope they all thought about that question ... rather than be defensive about being asked the question. Hopefully as a lesson ... maybe some day one parent will talk about it with their kids ... before they go to college The funny thing about this hunting of hateful things ... hate need not be verbal ... it can be expressed in other means ... and may not be covered by hate crimes ... perhaps u have to look into ravi style of jokes ... perhaps to him gay is funny ... the funny that comes out in actions of outing (verbal, cam, chat), humiliation, hiding evidence, planning, ... yeah the low version of hate ... how many got ravi humor? ... something about "gay" is a big deal in ravi interest Interesting I hear no rsp about all of ravi digging up clementi background ... week before ... three weeks after ... what describes Ravi in 30 days ... yeah time to make up some TV Movie titles ... pretty sure someone wants to make this into a movie ... mmm I wonder about his dad bringing in co-workers, bosses, etc to testify ... I wonder would they hire ravi for a job? any chances ravi will be barred from operating a computer??

One of the comments said google "Kony 2012 scam" so I did http://news.yahoo.com/kony-2012-viral-campaign-scam-094450230.html http://rchelicopter3.hubpages.com/hub/Kony-2012-Its-All-About-Oil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony Interesting issue ... the only thing I remember of Uganda is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin He certainly made NewsWeek Well ... isn't this issue for the UN to solve? There must be a reason why this problem is still going on? I have no idea how Uganda functions and their role in our world. The UN and Somila ... the UN sent troops around 30,000 and they couldn't handle four drug lords \ pirates. I guess the UN needs to clear up its own issues ... but does the USA always have to solve every thing? If the usa helps ... can we spare the 800 billion ... one of they Kony Scam articles mentioned oil ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Uganda It seems to ring a bell about oil issues in 70s n 80s n "idi" There seems to be many bad things ... kids used in the fight ... oil ... who buys it ... it helps the dictator Gosh ... sounds a little like the middle east ... perhaps a boycott of the oil and UN troops need to move in If the world moves in to reform the country ... what are we all getting into? Some how it boils down to that Africa will never become a country that should take care of itself. Lots of corruption, bribery, 419 Scams ... yeah a big source of 419 Fraud ( note many other countries also do 419 Scams ... phillipines ... ) Remember haiti ... there are people in our own country ... who count on these things to happen So they can go ... create their own scams ... and then we read or hear about it on the news ... Where is the greed ... follow the money trail ... the ones that take the money ... before it does any good But by then ... it does a lot of hurt ... especially those that gave on an idea of a cause ... and those that saw ... the easy money trail ... what do you all think of this issue?? yeah I wonder what happens to 67% of the donations that didn't go where it went? Makes you wonder were all donations go these days? I do hear that CEO of charity organizations get paid between 200K to 400K ... that sure does mean money didn't go where it should. Then I hear infrastructure absorb some of the money .... yes it does cost to send help ... There's got to be a way to solve the delicate issue ... but there are lots of them

The prosecution rest its case http://abcnews.go.com/US/rutgers-trial-prosecution-make-case-dharun-ravi/story?id=15877699#.T1kvxfEgenZ http://abcnews.go.com/US/rutgers-students-apology-suicide-written-minutes/story?id=15871532#.T1kxMPEgenY http://abcnews.go.com/US/burden-proof-case-prosecutorial-discretion/story?id=15864150#.T1kxM_EgenY That Ojha guy got charged for hindering an investigation http://abcnews.go.com/US/clementi-trial-daily-analysis-judge-testimony-tyler-clementi/story?id=15854510#.T1lItPEgenY Now what can we expect from defense?

The trial has pickup with computer experts that verified the webcaming and the changing of twitter messsages and other things ravi was hidding its sort of a review of the article in another thread left by option Well I read the article last night and the twitter msg left by the reporter of the trial It seems ravi been really digging into who his roommate is before they met ... in august ravi was hoping to get Tyler Picone ... there is feeling they would have gotten along better then he found out it was clementi ... so he continue digging there and found out everything gay about Tyler activities .. somehow ... there is mention ravi be a "bro" One would mean endearing and the other would be like "Big Brother 1984" ... no evidence to show ravi was endearing but rather the latter The article show that ravi preferred gay Tyler Picone because he's rich not a poor guy It showed clementi to be frail in character ... very quiet\shy and fragile to the world .. ravi overly the opposite ... ravi and clementi would be oil n vinegar. If ravi could have been that kind of big brother ... things could have gone well .. but little things piss off clementi like finding out his roommate found out the website he regular visits ... ravi quite a detective but that's what spoils the relationship ... on ravi part ... the gay part and the rich boy part How could the college put two people like this together ... I thought college got better at roommate placement?? I thought with questionnaires answered placement would be very efficient .. perhaps they didn't ask ... "prefer rich kids" quiet boy ... party boy .... they didn't learn to live together ... clementi already saw things he didn't trust about ravi Any liability by the college for a placement error? Sounds like the perfect storm ... Gosh read the FormSpring paragraph ... another side of ravi Well ravi is a ladies man ... so he treats girls better than guys ... so trial needs more guys to testify ravi character to balance out who he truly is Nice stuff to find out ravi think of molly as an item ... but she not feels that way ... Yeah as expected with ravi character ... there is cover up ... n molly being truthful to the police I don't see anything ... innocent about ravi ... you can see the diff between ravi smoothing things vs what he done and said ... evidence is there like mentioning to someone about setting up webcamming broadcasting ... evidence of ravi constant experimenting with webcams ... the love of webcam pranking??? well another part of the perfect storm ravi seeing that he's taken things too far wrote a rsp to tyler fb entry ... but by that time Tyler jumped and Tyler not read ravi message its unclear if ravi wrote the message around the time tyler jump or just wrote it the next day ravi should have taken that plea deal the first line quote below surely explains what will come to his life ... I find all this info not much different than when this story unfolded in 2010. Just knowing the hints of Tyler, Ravi, molly characters and what happen at the time its enough to know something centered around them that wasn't good all sourced from ravi gosh one day we will see this in the TV movie of the week Ravi police interview http://videos.nj.com...olice_inte.html http://www.nj.com/ne...m_spy_tria.html http://www.nj.com/ne..._interroga.html hmm ravi trying to make amends is four minutes late after Tyler jumped http://www.nj.com/ne...suicide_ra.html defense is arguing about the computers are not admissible in the trial like what??

cool ... I think I tried amd 64bit but only up to 2008R1 .. no hv ... i was suffering from bad cables and seagate drives showing they are of poor quality

Have you been able to guess CJames cliff hanger behavior? Figure out the outcome of his novels?

oh i meant hardware emulation on the chip made for use of hyper-v ... it makes virtual run like real time

What can you not do on Tablet\Pad that you can do on a desktop? Why have a tablet at a price you can buy a laptop? Would you write a novel on it? Would you record a band playing to create an mp3? Would you use it for a GPS? What other uses?

off topic question ... does it have VT HW on the chip? sounds like it can run VMWare better than my laptop

how old is your laptop? mine is six years old

Well the drug lords are almost as smart as Bridget ... I hope they will grow wise to her ... she's in transition ... our of her element ... Will she be like a pirate ... advance in rank by killing Sanchez before he does to her??

They will make you use IE9 in Win 8 ... they want to sever the old in order to get HTML5 ... the adobe Flash killer up and running

when it came out ... it didn't let twitter nor FB to run ... I tried everything to get it to run .. it was a waste to load it up I was getting use to IE8 ... it also had issues with the above but at least I found the override ... to make it work I was very happy with IE7?? so, I had to reload my os from backups to avoid the issue of removing IE9 ... recently Win Update forces you to update if u didn't catch it in time to prevent it from installing because they made it a critical update ... oh now it works ... no more complaints ... but one ... it crashes sometimes ... its quirky ... it slow or bit unresponsive ... i don't use IE in general unless a website is dying to need it I am happy with chome or firefox ... if someone wants to add a poll .. please do so ..

Well we should not forget LINUX gave its users two User Interfaces ... All ... I hear is that the users chose what suited them ... and then now there is so many available ... I wonder when will we have Linux on tablets ?? Well in come the WePADs or EPADS .... 100 dollars ... now that's a price many can afford ... its seem more powerful than kindle http://techietonic.com/list-of-linux-running-tablet-pc-os-edition-comparison-2011/

In the begining I wanted an apple but I could never afford it ... under the old mac interface Clearly it was ahead of windows by many years Now they adopted Unix\Linux\Next ... the interface sucks ... ie: its easy to download n store in windows ... not so in apple ... you got to navigate so many menus to tell it to store on thumbdrive so what makes apple great? lol if I was really geeky I'd have many computers with diff operating systems not much diff than a gamers with ps3, xbox, wii, etc

the infamous rilbur research ... please list all the charges ... leader of the ravi fan club see! there is some evidence of covering up!! not enough digging by prosecution!! ok councelling will take up some time ... how many hours will she get? Short Trial??? oh almost two weeks prosecution + one week for defense? rilbur you should have told ravi to take the plea ... then would be assured to get your case here ... too late ... he wants to gamble for innocence and walk out a free man ... if he accepted the plea ... what would be on his record?

there is another issue ... if that one and only transmission was porn ... and went over to another state ... it would be consider highly illegal distribution but since they were half naked ... I am not sure if this is an illegal transmission or should it be subject to any laws or not ... besides IOP

You forgot to mention Androids ... multi desktop ... where I can group my apps to that desktop ... I not seen enough of iPad to know they do this or not ... not played with Win8 with this Historically Microsoft wasn't very good in the gadgets arena ... thus that hw ... they have a history of abandonment ... while ppl have spent money on the lastest MS fade and got burnt by it ... your only knocking that now MS is getting into HW ... not so ... its a co-operation ... its not the same as what Apple is doing ... manufacturing ipads\iphones in china ... actually developing a real product from the ground up ... putting their own sw into their own devices ... MS doesn't do this ... they don't design nor manufacture ... they historically demonstrated how weak their products are adopted in the gadget arena ... now with non-gates CEO ... things are changing ... perhaps ... creating a serious team work between MS and hw manufactures to make a successful launch ... a successful consortium ... to battle with Apple zune and archos ... gosh ... they poorly done in the market compared to Apple ... I got an archos ... happy it has 80gb HD ... sad that its really not shock proof compare to a iPod ... but I didn't want itunes or anyone putting rights management on my music collection phone ... having its roots with iPak and Win CE ... its proven its not as useful as iPhone\BB ... Win CE 2003 to 2006 ... nothing develop well out of it ... in fact iPak and iPak phones ... are abandoned ... look its six or seven years later ... MS is now addressing their poor stance in those market areas ... because they realized that coming out with a new Win product wasn't selling as well as it did ... so without gates ... the company can now focus on the long term evolution or survival of MS ... already Apple is worth more than Poland as 500 billion ... MS at 267 Billion ... Oracle 151 Billion ... Google 201 Billion ... JKR 1 Billion (lol just being cute) Yes its a nice take on "what the heck" on Win8 vs Win interface ... but its only version 1 ... Android is at v4 and iPad is version3 or 4 The interface will evolve and so will the consumer ... ppl will eventually adopt to the new laptops and gadgets with touch screen It will be hard adoption of Win8 for the non touch screen users ... however they not describe if any changes will be slated for the Win 8 server interface No idea if MS will allow dual usage of New and Old on Win8 ... it sounds like a total dump out the old in with the new But I remember server are the last to receive the changes ... users are the testing ground Really its hard to say if they are making a mistake ... they did their research ... like experimenting with the Linux\apple desktop as a new interface Gosh that be a mistake because I tried my bro's apple laptop ... the iOS or powerbook interface was so cumbersome compare to the ease of Win The tablet interface is such an easy playful interface as long as you have touch ... I can't wait to see how many grimmy children and adult fingers dirty up their touch screens ... the manufacturer will welcome the extra sales of the touch screens ... since the customer didn't buy an extended warranty (i got rid of my ipak warrenty I'm glad because iPak is abandoned by HP\MS) I wish I could afford any of the touch things .. but for now I will just be an observer of this new evolution Maybe one day I will have a gadget ... I think your pointing out that laptops n portable device interfaces has their clear advantages But its MS decision to not have to maintain two interfaces MS wants tighter reins on piracy ... so everything is Market Place control ... No don't recall anyone arguing Apple Market Place issues ... iTunes control of music and DRM ... Just remember MS simple business model ... all they care is the number of licences of their SW on the market They don't care about HW ... its the easy making money model ... the sale of licenses Here is two cash cows coming ... tablets and phones Perhap the mistake is when the public picks on MS .... I want to pay one price for my MS Office ... I want it to work on my laptop, phone, tablet, zune We have not heard if Apple is currently facing this kind of issue ... perhaps their customers are trained or accustom to their usage of the product so remember ... hw is only a vehicle for MS to sell copies of SW and issuance of Licenses Not ever coming close to Apple proven business model ... they did well on the sale of Macs, Powebooks, iPod, iPhone, and now iPads and everything else. What is the mistake? ... It doesn't seem to be occurring as much in the apple culture ... but clearly your pointing out it will be in the MS culture Google\Android doesn't have to worry much ... Android is their cash cow ... Android Laptops doesn't see to be widely adopted But again I haven't heard any issues with their interfaces. Maybe we can campaign with MS to encourage trade in your monitors for touch ones ... trade in your laptops ... for new ones!! That would increase adoption .. if they are looking at the long term investment of Win8, 9, 10 etc

Yes, your agreeing that MS was not successful in msPhone, ms\hp iPak, june ... etc ... call the consumer gadgets the response was in agreement with W_L ... its just a sign ... that the public is a bit weary of MS in the consumer gadgets arena it sounds a bit gun shy ... MS been know to abandon their hw products .. and then that piece of hw like the game joystick wasn't recognized anymore (forgot the name) Yes, your agreeing that MS stayed in the business enterprise arena ... and of course the consumer desk tops ... Both companies had languishing periods in their industry careers until some technological or new business approach Yes, Jobs was a nasty guy in the early days of apple ... not sure how he was when he return to apple But upon leaving apple ... apple started to fail because scully doesn't know how to lead a sw\hw company Jobs working hard during his cancer ... show he was determined to build the best products before he died Sure, he is hard on the designers and sw engineers ... but jobs had a good feel for meeting customer expectations Jobs was the savior to Apple ... like a GOD ... with iOS\Next OS ... UNIX\LINIX machine ... lol Next's customer was gov\military for a short spell ... but now they are abandoning their Next computers ... that meets their security machine specifications ... not sure what computers they are using ... I learn ada and other kinds of languages were abandon. Yes, apple n MS has diff approaches to hw\sw model ... one is closed ... one is open\OEM Part of the point of discussion is in the realm of consumer products ... Both flourished in their respective arenas ... but looked upon as bad guys when stepping into each other arenas MS needed Apple around so they would not be slap with a Monopoly accusation ... nice legal ploy by Linux arena I think Look its not about bashing MS or Apple ... or Pro Apple or Pro MS ... its just the straight truth of the two companies Perhaps its an agreement between the two companies to not compete head on ... Apple took the mac enthusiast which is art and education ... the publishing industry ... created their own apple culture ... MS took the business because of IBM ... IBM failed at OS2 because they mainly a Main Frame solutions experts so MS took over the Business Operations culture as main frames were dying ... MS create MS Enterprise Culture After languishing with their OS products ... and little bits of consumer products .. sure they found their new niche ... the gamers group No one thought that any one could take on Sega, Nintendo, etc Clearly apple stay out of MS arena and MS stay out of Apple arena Now, towards the end of Jobs life and gates retiring ... MS is trying to get a foot hold into the Java and Education arena ... the bait and switch to bring the Java technology into MS C# and dot net model ... MS I think attacked Borland Pascal ... stealing some of its developers ... or it could be someone else ... but it does show an unhealthy behavior in a capitalist model ... its seems that MS ... has this muscling in\bully mentality ... lol it could be the article writer projecting this belief ... but its is true they move in ... (see pirates of silicon valley when gates roll in with Lisa ... saying I want IT .. clearly showing gates muscling into apple lime light in the wake of dying DOS6\Win3.11 era) ... Borland belongs to embaradero and i am not sure if they are owned by Oracle. Sun somewhere languished ... or was weak ... its amazing how strong they are in the devices arena and the Business Website Arena with jBOSS and Bea Weblogic ... amazing to see IBM with WebSphere ... now in the last couple of years ... MS has been getting into the compilers\education area to have them make use of their technology ... not sure of MS good intentions in retrospect with Java arena ... yes Java languished with getting people to write languages in their platform technology ... I found Pascal and few other languages written in the Java technolgy ... lol Android indirectly uses the technology since the phone is like an embedded device ... perhaps it was silly to attack or try to prevent MS from muscling in their territory ... now java\sun belongs to Oracle. Perhaps its nice that MS stop languishing its programming languages sales pitch ... it is up to the independents to support the languages in dot Net technology .. MS would rather stay focus on c#, F#, vb# ... there is rumor they wish to abandon vb# .... they already abandon j# and Python ... they are getting into the little tools in the web design arena ... ie: php, jquery, ruby, etc ... its is perhaps area of dot net ... did not focus on the real aspects of web technology ... gosh it was some battle between ASP n JSP n PHP n others Sure we have to remember wallstreet movie ... where douglas states his belief in capitalism "greed is good" .. lol a romney belief But we mus not let such overtones overshadow truths ... of how many people took greed in a destructive behavior The same goes with MS or Apple ... yes ppl can debate on their business practices but its up to you that you want to use their tech to furthur your business or education ventures Yes, I have not followed how much the virtual machine arena is now changing again ... like Virtual Box, VM Server, Hyper-V ... not too many regular ppl get to dabble in that area .. since the SW is quite expensive ... the key thing I said above ... all this performance is contingent on have VT hardware cpu from Intel\AMD ... I hate intel for not making clear which CPU are VT ready ... I was hoping either my DELL (core duo one) or toshia (core duo two) be VT hw ready CPU but they weren't ... so I never got to experience the speed of Virtual Environments under VT hw cpu ... the same goes with multi-cores ... and blades .... and cubes ... again this is specialize areas that not so pertinent to W_L reply Rilbur has a point about the wait and see how MS embraces the gadget device markets ... I quite agree * iOS - to develop in that arena you have to spend a couple thousand dollars for the developers KIT plus some iDevices Also you have to learn a new language Object-C * Android - its either google or someones own Java Code Machine for embedded devices - to develop for it you have to avoid Java Libraries and follow what they used in the language for an Android device ... to develop is pretty much free costing plus android devices but there are other Android compatible tools coming out ... like using c# or php to program in android * MS\Win8 - I have not investigated how MS is doing with MS Phone ... how they revamped the CE os ... I know they had to take Win7 and strip it down so it can run in 55K or less ... it took me awhile to see if they meant that for the virtual environment or the device environments ... please note POS kiosk are like XP os strip down to make them responsive as kiosk machine os ... I don't know of any specific other kiosk os other than MS You have to spend money as a MSDN developer ... perhaps MS will come up with Win8 device developers subscription for a certain cost ... perhaps it will be a lower cost than the other subscription models of development So there you have it for the device os ... but remember in recent news * Amazon touted their Amazon Market place n apps ... to be the best quality ... to not been attack by viruses n bad apps ... in the market place ... as to what happen to Android ... not sure if Apple fell down to this * Apple doesn't allow any SD devices .. all devices must be apple ones ... very apple culture * Android nice but its evolving rather being standard on their device flavors Toshiba, etc ex: if your looking for a tablet that can function like a GPS (hw chip), mp3, DVD player ... with SD and USB ... that was Toshiba Theme Tablet 2010(?) Now I think as Toshiba has changed that with their newer tablet models ... not sure what their tablet vision is ... but clearly it looks like there is abandonment in favor of looking like the other android tablets ... sort of meeting the apple to apple comparison for tablet shoppers I don't have extra hw nor the time to play with Win8 on other devices ... nice that myr has tested this out and gave glowing reports ... but MS past records is that they always needed a faster cpu hence the latest one ... to run their OS efficiently I can report on VMWare with no VT hw chip ... Win8, Win7 runs like dogs ... XP runs a champ ... with a smaller foot print ... but really its on its way out ... as apps will favor Win7\8 technology ... shareware sw designers ... are beginning to realize they have to start shifting to the new tech or die.a slow death from losing their customer base. It thrilling to see the apple bashing ... pro ms ... yet you own a iPad not a Win8 pad ... I am not looking at bashing nor being proponents ... just showing an observation of what they truly are in history Its the teens that will not check the true history of either company They will just check out the Jobs Genius doco but not the pirates of silicon valley (dark apple n MS history - monopoly) Please note that using the word Beta to the public and business tends to make people shy of adopting MS applications. http://en.wikipedia....ease_life_cycle Myr put it well to state the RC are just stable release beta's ... but still using the word beta leaves a bad taste in people minds The technical ppl can understand it ... but the others get a picture of buggy ... test sw ... gear towards grabbing money from its clients Release Candidates that lend itself to heading towards an RTM (release to manufacturing) sits better with the general public as well as taking advantages of the accounting tax code. From maybe a legal standpoint ... its not be sued by a customer on beta vs release candidate sw ... lol there are sw companies that sold sw as if it was a production release ... just to milk money out of them who can not go to another sw company because its custom made. Of course as GE or any other big companies make their way into health care realm ... it will put a dent into these bad practices ... another nice thing about healthy capitalist competition. Well I hope everyone got a general picture of the history or some of the current things in the sw and gadget arena's W_L sure does express the exciting ways to make use of his android ... (DVD drive, microSD) vs Apple Culture of their own devices We're just embracing what works for each of our needs in the currently evolving gadet world ... My bro strongly argues the tablet or gadget is not a place to do serious editing of technical office documents (word, pp, excel) Thats true and sure it seems sound ... but the ARM devices market is evolving ... and soon in a couple of years high power devices may become the thing of the past ... already there is arm cpu that is very powerful in 3-D or graphic illumination ... but we are all subjected to the ARM war ... Intel vs AMD vs Samsung ... etc etc ... a war where not all ARM cpu\devices are compatible Oh please note, you have Win8 ... then told it can run or will run on Laptops, phones, tablets ... don't misunderstand by thinking you got the same windows on a laptop as in a tablet ... you will find out as you read articles ... your getting the subsets of Win8 technology in a tablet or phone ... meaning you won't be able to run office or Flight Simulator on a tablet or phone ... it means that you will have the look and feel of Win8 on all devices IOS happens to already pioneered in this arena ... MS is just following up with their take on the competition ... so here we have iOS on ilaptops, iphone, ipad and iPOD ... using the same ARM cpu in gadgets and Intel cpu on laptops ... no idea if you can run desktop iOS software on a iPad ... I would think if MS has stated the clarification above ... I presume its the same limitation in iOS as well. Yes third party sw will always look to see they still have a future ... thats why I pointed out ... you will be sold to get a Defragmenter, Anti-Virus, etc It sure will be a grey area headache for the consumers ... ie; i have ABC for my laptop and now I have to buy DEF and GHI for my tablet and phone. its scary period during this ARM war (four year period i think 2010 to 2013) ... Win8 ARM ... Android Flavors ARM ... Apple ARM ... BB ARM (?) ... everything one has their own specialize niche ... it sort of the reminder of the OS war ... Virtual Wars .. yeah take Rilburs advice ... lets sit and wait and see what unfolds ... there is plenty of time before you get into your tablet or phone or desktop ... things will be different in the 18 month ... moore laws ... I have not address BB at all ... phone and tablet ... I am sure they wish to maintain their presence ... lol gosh it hurts to be of neither iphone or BB crowd ... but I do notice ppl bury their lives or identity into these devices ... I hope they say the movie "The NET" its an eye opener about having your identity in the device world ... there is a writer ... I think it was Robert Heinlein ... he foretold about the Internet in 70s ... he turns out to be right about the current issues we are experiencing ... check out the Prophets of Sci Fiction ... it a great series. I just hope there is a healthy capitalist competition to put out the best products of choice for the consumers ... rather than the dirty sportsmanship between rivals ... so yeah ... I go with rilburs ... lets sit and wait ... see what happens ... sure if you can afford the latest n greatest gadgets ... be my guest ... we appreciate to learn what the new devices can do.