Enric

in ch 20, Georgie received the knighthood of the late king Charles III of Spains and Indies. I noticed that the First Sea Lord, Spencer, already alludes to the possibility of Georgie thereby obtaining the right to be 'Sir George', (as there clearly was: "The King of Spain wants to say thank you Granger.... Don't expect anyone to start calling you Sir George though.") well well, by this, as far as I understand, Georgie became a hidalgo in Spain. He *could* be addressed as 'don Jorge' (let's see if someone in some later chapter cracks a joke, that Now, it was not automatic that holders of foreign knighthoods would be 'Sir', but the Brit king could authorize such. There was a contemporary precedent: the (relatively young) commander Sidney Smith (bc 1764), whom we already saw in the Meditarranean adventure part... * For his accomplishments in naval war for the Swedish against Russians, Smith was knighted by king Gustav III with the Swedish Order of the Sword. Smith ('Sir Sidney') used this title, with King George III's permission, but was mocked by fellow British officers as "the Swedish knight".... Sweden's highest order (which Smith did not receive) was that of Serafim, granted usually to Their Excellencies....(something like Garter or Thistle today British) - instead, in Sweden the Sword (sverd-orden) was one of middling rank, something like the today knight of OBE or at most, the Bath. Not that O Carlos III is much more than that, just a middling-rank order of chivalry, because Spain has higher one, at least the Golden Fleece. I really want that when our Georgie is in west indies, at home royal court there'd be some exertion of influence - and returning, he finds himself authorized to officially be Sir George. let's say: the viscountess of Blandford, happens to be upset by some society ladies in the court circles, and she happens to ask her husband, the greedy viscount, "why is my daughter not 'Lady Caroline'?" which starts an avalanche of events where the pompous, parvenuous and greedy Blandfords make -with their conservative friends- the king to approve that Georgie's spanish honor gets authorized to the entitlement of 'Sir' because, that makes thekri daughter to be Lady. and, let's say, in the train of those events, the Bridgemonts show just an attitude that such is really not needed, something having a background in that 'we Bridgemonts have held an original feudal barony already for five centuries, our blood is noblest and most ancient, we do not need additional titles to show it...' ....and later, inevitably, fellow British officers will tease Georgie as "the Spanish knight" plus someone cracks a joke about don caballero de la mancha. and windmills. http://upload.wikime..._Carlos_III.svg http://en.wikipedia...._of_Charles_III

ch22: Georgie proves the old thing: a kinsperson is the one to desire sex with. provided it is not too close kin, but something like (in this fiction) with the Lennoxes: about second or third cousins... researchers have actually understood the sexual attraction to kinspeople as quite natural: one tends to like, appreciate and trust in persons who look vaguely family, have same features as one themselves, and same features as one's own growing-up family. Of course, the Westermarck effect takes care that too close relatives are not sexually desirable (for sane, sound persons), but those who are not that close, and still resemble, are instead very prime. The young Lennox should -as I gathered- resemble physically our Georgie, even a lot. and Mark has concocted these two to be something like secons cousins to one another. ---------- the surprise person in the boat: what if it's Evelyn Fellowes ? ---------- Heureka! I want Georgie and his family to underline, outwardly, that they are Britons. And represent Celtic heritage. Richemont de Bretagne. Levenax. whatever bridge-mount is in some celtic language. Yvain/Owain. Alain/Ailean. Daffyd. Aenghus. Alasdair. Iseabail. Gwendolyn. ---------- btw, it was not nice of Georgie, to leave Winkler hungry.... A good aristocrat knows that his personal servants are pretty dependent on the leftovers of his meals and such - and usually a good aristocrat takes some care to leave some leftovers.

chronology, as it goes, means that Jack is already 'Uncle Jack'

ch14: well well. Matt is learning how to start a harem... and, every and each of them was voluntary to come to the nest of this.

ch21: that Jardines..... bad news? something is missing: some chatty high society babblings.... I mean, Georgie participates the right places - why is he not present (or even participating) the gossiping, such as about people's potential marriages, pregnancies, alliances, adulteries, repudiations property arrangements, the things which in 2000s would be in socialite columns...

ch13: did I understand correctly: now Matt has his boyfriend.

ch20: the Dutch = the Orange princely dynasty, must have its own chivalric award too. I think the 'principality of Orange' probably had some obscure honor award.... -------- btw, nice to see that Georgie's hunting policy is helping in Brentwood. The hunts organized under his orders, obviously fill quite successfully some of the diet of the loyal villagers, and feed is that much more nutritional too.

ch12: I wonder if these guys there in Wyoming boondocks, had no gay bar/club... sometimes in locations with no gay place, some place gets much gay clientele. This the case here?

I am a bit uncertain about its spelling anyway.... these are situations where I console with the knowledge that in Middle Ages, the resulting written rendition varied anyway.

11 and 12 year olds are having crazy parties with their pals - such are called 'sleepover' and the crazy elements are feeding one another some junk food, drinking sugary things (coke, sprite and such), being awake half the night, and nattering with each other unto stupor. Coke, as in phark for 15-yo or 216-yo boy...maceuticals, is not in the menu. Sugar hangover happens, instead of alcohol hangover. Still, it does not essentially differ from the spirit of booze parties... well, and even 16-year-olds are not becessarily having any sex.... I think there is a remarkable difference between gay boys and hetero boys: girls who are needed for hetero boys' even first sex experiences, sadly look for something more mature - usually not much luck for 15-yo or 16-yo hetero boys. Whereas, almost any 15-yo gay boy could always find a semi-pedo or somesuch, to lose his virginity to... (ch 11) thank you Jer for filling the spot at the bottom of the page.

like, spare tyres - for a boat...

well, Georgie should have the moment to see his own son.... I gather the boy is already one year old, and we'll see what sort of toddler...

ch10: do I detect Matt in need of boyfriend material, instead of f**king around...

ch18: well, is the navy life so difficult as portrayed here.... btw, many gays just love royalty.... and now we have that fat Orange onboard. * it is a given that practically any prince and princess of Orage IS fat...

well, some americanoes tend to overrate things.... must come from narrow-minded things they grow to/ with. iirc, there in usa actually seems to be in effect in most parts of that place a prohibition against first cousins to marry - which as a thing is seriously stupid. [because nobody can prevent them from procreating...] there also seems to exist some sort of prohibition (structural prohibition...) in most parts there, for intelligent people to get elected to legislatorship... and I believe I heard that there in most parts is in effect a criminalization of sex life for those under 16.... (= statutory rape, I hear) So, how more deeply benighted can a country get ? by the way, as an opposite effect to incest taboo, it seems that persons with resemblance, and also hereditary traits, attract each other sexually... so, if there were NO westermarck effect, then most of pairings would be between close relatives... And trust the benighted ones to be those who want to battle against that natural thing...

ch17: The Dutch are imo not to be pitied....or protected. Just a decade earlier, they had a war against the English. In all this, it's basically that all the others are enemies, or former enemies, or potential future enemies... So, Bertie did not do anything too aggravating.

ch9: was there now some nice incest ?? the incest taboo imo is overrated. basically, the biology takes care of that to the extent it needs: the Westermarck effect. Meaning, one (if not seriously mentally disturbed) does not want sex with one whom has been growing together at a critical age on say 0.7 years. That's it. The phenomenon is called 'imprinting'. Because that means that MOST cases of too close relatives are not sexual partners: usually, siblings, pergaps some first cousins, and often siblings of one's parents and children of one's siblings. The 'most' is sufficient, because in long term, an occasional breeding in incestuous pairing, does not add very much to genetical risks - as opposed to repeated over generations. Genetically, sex (and progeny) with such relatives who are not blood relations, does not mean any danger on account of kinship. So, no sense to obstacle it. And that all, basically, is what should be the limits: if one does stomach sex with a related person, then it should not be taboo - provided the other one does want it, too. ------ everything negative what is talked in this thread, actually goes more to the perception of inter-generational sex, than to real incest... because, Matt is not blood-related to discussed persons, nor has he grown with them at the age of 0-7...

ch8: so much TALK about incest. no actual happening of any incest. bad...

ch16: well, looks like I was a day absent.... some of the confusion cleared. this politics is nice. Bertie is good. Georgie will learn...

ch15: more than confused

ch7: another potential for fisting...

a naval official of those days: some portraits, and some family history, of a presumably middle-class-origin navy man http://www.jjhc.info/cuthbertarthur1787.htm I happen to know about the guy because his youngest daughter, a scandalous woman of her epoch (and pretty much same age as the fictional Georgie and Caroline), ended up to Northern countries...

ch6: of course the statistics are against the boys Darius, JJ, Will, to be non-hetero; but still, there were vibes.... Matt could help in technical incest.

ugh. urgh. this is a cavalcade of sex fantasies. this time.

thank you Mark for contributing as last of the pile.... yes, the french upper class of Versailles were famed for not having water even nearby their skins and, they grew fleas and things... and, smelled so bad... Pretty much, they gave the air of somethings really rotten. Oils of course helped in that. Probably it was to rule their enemies by the force of untolerable presence.... and, they used quite a lot of perfumes, to cloak their nasty presence from their own noses... weell, what a concoction...