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with these new meds, Jeremy is surely to get fattened (almost like a balloon). Problems ensue then.... Am I evil in my thinking

on the other hand, chapter 21 has following details: Kris' grandfather was Frederick von Schulenberg. (his brother and sister were even able to travel with, to Switzerland.) Switzerland, travel to the US. I think that was in 1938. grandfather’s brother, great-uncle Otto, buy a place nearby in New York. His sister, my great-aunt Helga... Otto had a son, named Heinrich, and a daughter named Ingrid. They each had two kids. “your grandparents had your father. Did he have any brothers or sisters?” Kris now says his father was an only child. They named him Franz (not three kids wth them when they arrived USA in 1938.) father, Franz, died in 2000. He was born in 1941, and he was almost 60 when he passed “A man named Johann Schmidt had been groomed to replace Frederick,” Jake explained. Johann grew up on a farm; his family were peasants. “Poor farmers" “Johann Schmdt posed as Frederick von Schulenberg

Fabien, in 2004 now 18 yo, is born in circa 1986. 1) being son: Is it really plausible that 40-yo Stef, then already espoused tightly and also always protecting himself against HIV by condom, would have sired any child in 1985? 2) being grandson: chronology is quite tight. Stef born in 1945, Fabien sired in circa 1985. The generation in between must have been born (presumably in France) between circa 1963 and circa 1968. Stef did not travel in France usually in those years. Pretty implausible. Already the problem of tight chronology makes this so unusual, because usually persons are not mentally mature enough to have child when 15 yo. It is actually much more plausible that a heterosexual guy procreates when around 40 yo. These cases when 'too often' 15-23 yo persons have children, are unusual and thus implausible. Such rapidity of procreation is typical to lowliest socio-economic persons, i.e white trash. But even white trash do not have that often children - because their ugliness and poverty often hinders willingness of sex partners. Many trash males do not have children at all, despite of their high level of horniness, because all females decline. Isn't it so that trash-level females do have many of their children as bastards sired by higher-level males?

the name "Kristofer" is actually 'the' Swedish variant of this baptismal name. :D the true German language would have it as "Christoph".

the name "Kristofer" is actually 'the' Swedish variant of this baptismal name. :D the true German language would have it as "Christoph". So, Kris is actually a Counter-Trump (in name traditions). The Trump attempted to claim in his one book his Trump family is Swedish, which naturally is a lie and they are Rhinelander Germans. Kris here, as contrary example, says his family is German, while his name points out him as descendant of Swedes.

Stef's relatives are distant cousins (or not genetically related at all) of Will & Brad, and therefore there should be no obstacle. Actually, Stef does not have close relatives by his American side: Stef is the only child of Steven. Therefore, Stef's American relatives are descended from his uncle Billy, or are even more distant. In order to Stef have closer (than that) relatives, Stef's French mother should have birthed another child (by another man) - whose progeny the are Stef's closest genetically, i.e nieces and nephews and great-nephews.... However, nowhere in these stories there was a sibling of Stef living in the same home with Stef. Any descendant of Stef's French aunt or uncle are as distant genetically as are the late Billy's descendants (Jeremy, Darius, Barry, Harry) Fabien could be Stef's maternal aunt's great-grandson, or Stef's French half-sibling's (who got adopted out early such as in 1930s) son or grandson.

the story Freshmen ch4 informs: "...grandfather had contacts in Switzerland, so in 1940 they managed to escape with their three kids." (Eldest make of these children was Kris' father.) As the 'grandfather' actually (is said to) be Johann Schmidt, this raises the question: are these three children born of Johann Schmidt (before the 1940 flight), or are they (or one or two of them) child of the real Fürst v. Schulenberg. Of course the German nobility's genealogy publication would know (in 1940) the correct number of children of the real Fürst v. Schulenberg, and names and birthdates of the correct children. This sort of data would repeat itself in subsequent issues of the German nobility's genealogy publication. There exists practically no possibility that the German nobility organization would forget what is the situation in 1940 and preceding years, because this family is high-profile and its situation is (in 1940) known to a plenty of persons who then survived to the days of West Germany. Possibly not even the Natzies killed infants and young children. Did Johann Schmidt kill children? Is it so that Johann Schmidt took to America the young children of the real Fürst v. Schulenberg, and raised them as his own?

However, overwhelming most of them do not do it in a way that the baby is born. At the very least, usually an abortion is arranged. They usually do not get caught in 'premature' fatherhood and a necessity to skip education in order to work in menial jobs to provide for the young family. Almost always these rich young friends use condoms or other prevention. When they spend too much money via daddy's credit card, they often get castigated and their rich family pays the bill. So, white trash (or, as Will has put it about Hayeses of Claremont, rednecks) is a decidedly different socio-economic type than The Young Leisure Class.

speaking about budding genealogical hobby, there exists (even public) genealogical discussion groups in the internet. Several of them actually do have a good quality, although in them, there is also chaff and stupidity from some participants. Kris needs some time to familiarize what and who are reliable and, as opposite, which participants are too unreliable. In such groups, there occasionally is a really good drive of voluntariness and pro bono work. (Some reliable participants are sometimes very happy to share their knowledge and ability, provided the task is sort of easy, for example data is found in sources/materials that the participant themself is very familiar and has easy access). If and when a few of participants get a drive to add details to other details, then occasionally, a real good research result gets built quite rapidly... Naturally, Kris is not (yet) in position to make good genealogical research, by himself. But... Kris may get surprised by some other(s) who, online, guide him,...

One of my ideas for the budding genealogical hobby of Kris is that Kris gets to find some surprising indications about his own real ancestry from certain Swedish documentation.... That Kaiser Wilhelm II forbade in the 1890s the Swedish branch to use the Schulenberg name. But that the prohibition had been effective merely within the borders of Prussia, and that all other countries gave their middle finger to the Kaiser's edict. The longtime rift between the two branches of the Schulenbergs led to a situation in the 1930s that a young man allied temporarily with the Nazies to suppress the senior Schulenberg branch. This was possible because males of the two separate branches resembled a lot each other. Doppelganger. so, a narrative about "Who is Johann Schmidt?" (born in c1910 in Skåne, southernmost Sweden, the region's name in German is "Schonen")

This Nicholas' mother is Greek (or, a Greek diaspora person). Wonder how such boyish cuteness is able to come from the highway-robber-lookalikes-today-Greek population of rotund males.... Perhaps it is the cuteness of the mix-up between different ethnicities. Or, perhaps it will vanish soon and he starts to look like swarthy turkic guys... In his photo, he clearly has non-blond hair (see the hair roots) and he is 'peroxide blond'. Nicholas' paternal grandfather, seemingly a purebred ugly Englishman, is in record as having changed his weasel English surname into "Galitzine", seemingly without any justification. (Perhaps, just perhaps, they hold a belief that they are descended from a bastard of Galitzines, or somesuch belief.) Having known several Greek persons, I have been disappointed in their general ugliness. Long ago, having read so much about Hellenes of antiquity and about Alexandros the Great and suchlike, I had a (misguided) assumption that Greek males would be beautiful - tall and sporty and thatlike. But merely a few of Greek boys are and then in their 20s even they turn into veritable pumpkins, rotund swarthies.

okay, that guy from the surname-thief family. Galitzine is the French version of the name of a 700-year old Eastern-European lineage of princely rank. Russia and Poland have (centuries ago) accredited their title. Undoubtedly, this princeliness is a reason why their surname is a target of theft of immaterial property & intellectual property. The Anglo and the French are bound to presume such thieves as princes. However, because this is originally a Slavic name and in its 'domestic' contexts is rendered e.g "Golitsyn", its thieves are not fully successful in their usurping efforts. Those who are cognoscenti, likely will see through the charade.

I keep having these visions that Niko turns out to be a sponge and already now in attempt to gain an immense dowry via a bride he is now searching. A guy who goes on to empty one or more women financially. Bet those three credit cards of his are quite poor. The charismatic abilities of this boy and... So, my prediction is Niko is going to be a dowry-hunting guy.

his (mother's) "great uncle" is not his mother's (great) uncle, but a first cousin of his mother's father. Actually, the exploitive sex relationship was not incest, it was just a bad secret liaison between remote relatives.

I am looking forward to Kris starting an interest in genealogy (firstly as amateur). Taking contact with genealogists and with organizations of nobility. And, quite soon, Kris ends up to purchase at least one of yearbooks of the German noble genealogies the Princely Houses (such is in German), as well as a Stem Table of his own family from the Riddarhuset of Sweden (text of those is in Swedish, which I read well and full). this is as soon as Kris learns that, in addition to Holy Roman hereditary titles, his family (who had owned also some pieces of landed properties in what (up to 1815) was Swedish Pomerania, and they hold noble rank also in the 'peerage' of Sweden. When Kris (and/or his friends) learns enough to understand the necessary rudiments of Swedish language to grasp the essentials of the Swedish document, he observes that there exists sort of difference, in the form of there being two separate branches of the male line of his family, only one being in the German material and both the two in Swedish material. (However, the Swedish material appears to hold no later information than what was in 1920s, and therefore is in need to be researched as to generations that came after 1920s)

would we not hear anything more about the dear Kris ?

I am most sad if Kris and J will not return to be again a couple.

Not incest. Not in this case. Rich Crampton and the Hayes wife are not related to each other, not at all. Instead, this phenomenon is adultery. Making cuckoo babies in nest(s). Rich has his wife, and still he made a daughter with the Hayes wife. The Hayes wife has husband of her own, the jailbird guy Hayes. Still she, at the time of husband's incarceration, made a daughter with Rich Crampton. Me. I am of the cruel opinion that the SURNAME of all cuckoo babies should be their biological mother's maiden surname, in order not to create false impressions about the origin of the baby. We need draconian legislation on product origin of human individuals. Stop the sluts' fatal influences to information reliability. This thing, pushing stepchildren to the name (and heritage) of the official husband, has been going on too long now. Too long, at least as many centuries as there has existed surnames i.e hereditary family names.

If You decide to take the idea I proposed, then You are in need of seeing what sorts of 'typical' descent lines You will face. Here is link to an example. This is a well-researched family, because they were so well-known through 1700s-1800s, being the 'premier title' in their home country's peerage, and daughters marrying only to other well-followed families (and therefore their descendants are also pretty exhaustively known and listed). This a an example of demography of (highly noble) families, a narrow case. Moreover I chose this because this actually is a somewhat narrow lineage: a couple of times the male-line lineage verged on brink of the extinction, and ultimately the narrow male line went extinct in the 1930s. Quite a many other examples produce a much wider list of descendants. This is narrow, chosen for Your needs... Chronologically, this is of same extent in time as is the Fürst von Schulenberg, = from a founder ancestor adult already by year 1700, up to the 1950s. https://www.genealogics.org/descendtext.php?personID=I00186880&tree=LEO&display=block&generations=8 (I do not know a direct email to you. Possibly this would have been even nicer help if sent by email... But, now this is here, for several people to look at.)

just to mention some history: 1) when the lineage from King Christoffer II of Denmark to King Christoffer III of Sweden, Norway and Denmark, 6 generations. died out totally in January 1448, this occurrence caused all sorts of havoc in Scandinavian kingdoms. Firstly, the ongoing dearth of heirs was observed often, during those centuries. This dearth of heirs weakened the Kalmar union of these countries. An enterprising Swedish gentleman, the country's High Marshal and an important castellan, Karl Knutson, gathered his several hundreds of warriors and in spring of 1448 travelled to the Meetingplace of Mora where in the election of new King, his troops were sufficiently feared and almost unanimously those electors present, elected Karl as new King. But his story then is relatively sad. No real royal blood in his veins, his enemies and those who envied, had joys of spurning his rule. Karl produced fabricated genealogies and false propaganda trying to claim remote royal roots (everybody knew that he had no recent royal root.) It seems to be inadvisable to take over Kingship if one is not sufficiently royal (and entitled) by known, recent roots. Karl was twice exiled, and only in his third time of holding royal power, he died as King. Karl however also invaded Norway, where half of tht ciuntry made him King, in opposition to Danish candidate. This turned out to be untenable for Karl, so he retreated and dozens of his Norwegian noble supporters had to leave their properties and flee to Sweden (quite many Swedish noble families strted to have Norwegian-background brides strting from 1450). None of Karl's ever rose to the Swedish throne, until in 1974 the current King ascended, on basis of totally other dynastical right, but being son of his mother HRH princess Sibylla of Albany, is directly descended from King Karl Knutson whose aristocratic descendants (such as, countess Anna Oxenstierna in the 1600s) had meanwhile married into some suitable western European sovereign-princely families whose daughters then married into some other royalty than Sweden itself. Only when Karl Knutson's descendant was a royal, was such a person permitted to marry into Swedish RF. (In my opinion, this is because the Swedish RF, the Bernadotte, are originally such upstarts that their dynasty felt over 150 years that they cannot marry any other than royals. To marry from lower titles, would damage their effort to look like proper royals.) Denmark did the 1448 thing in a more dignified and sustainable and stable way: they offered the throne to a Duke (Adolphus of Slesvig) who descended directly from Regitze, a sister of King Christoffer II (over 150 years earlier) and, on request made by the said Duke (a childless guy), elected the sister's son of the Duke, a young Count [afterwards known as King Christiern I] who also, of course, descended directly from Regitze the said sister of King Christoffer II. Afterwards, all the monarchs of Denmark are direct descendants of the King Christiern I (who also won the power in Norway, since 1449/1450). I would say that the extinction of a long family lineage is a phenomenon that tends to cause havoc. 2) in the Toron case, 1100s to 1350s, actually preservation of the medieval sources is a bit hazy and somewhat fragile. Therefore, there could have been also other heirs, sidelines. Or not. do not know for absolute. In the (late? 1200s), they lost their Lordship on the mainland, and the last generations of Thoron lineage lived in Cyprus island (they purchased some property there, to live on). Last member of the family, a daughter, married a young king of Cyprus, but did not procreate. Husband the king married anew. Still, such war-afflicted longtime situations, crusader kingdom, is a plausible environment of the lineage being forced to be narrow. Because sons of the lineage tended to meet untimely, violent deaths, in hands of their beloved neighbors, the muslims (Arabs) . The Paestine oif those centuries was somewhat unruly. And there existed certain deep polarization. Brings to mind that a survival of today Israeli family lineages is not fully a safe or certain phenomenon. Could assess that the locational choice of their life is so-calledly challenging... But, that's their choice. I would never personally want to travel to Israel....

clarification: only a couple cases out of THOUSANDS of lineages die totally out at a spot when there has already been 5 or 6 generations.

If the lineage is very narrow, it may die out totally. Three or four generations of a narrow lineage may die out, although usually nit dies not die out. Lincoln's lineage is obviously a narrow one. Only one CHILD to be adult and procreate. I hazard a guess that the last survivor of Lincoln lineage is his great-grandchild, or even as short lineage as a grandchild. Yes, a narrow lineage of one great-grandchild or one grandchild may die out. But 300 years is a different matter. There is bound to be 7-11 generations. Such does not die out. destructive cataclysms do not happen - because they are generally in different places, etc differences. If a lineage that started 300 years ago, is going to die out totally, then in all likelihood it had died out already 200 years ago, or so. This is stochastics and experiential knowledge. I have researched, using well-known materials, well-known families, for the point of finding long lineages to finally die totally out. Ang guess what happens in the research: only a couple of THOUSANDS of lineages die totally out at a spot when there has already been 5 or 6 generations. The major pequisite is that such a lineage is narrow: not any siblings both to have children, only one of siblings has. And in most generations, only one person lives to adulthood. Examples of these extinct lineages from my research: 1) lineage from King Christoffer II of Denmark to King Christoffer III of Sweden, Norway and Denmark. 6 generations. died out - except a few bastards born to them,, do have descendats to today. In other words: legitimate lineage extinguished in its 6th generation. 2) in the very war-afflicted crusader kingdom of Jerusalem, the lineage of lords of Thoron, from mid-1100s to mid-1300s. Sons of the lineage tended to meet untimely, violent deaths. Usually, this lineage survived through their sisters. These examples are total extinction, including all known females. These are very rare. Generally, if a lineage does not die out in a few generations of narrow lineage, rather it then widens - soon we see a proliferation grandchildren.... And, to those who do not understand that descent is able to continue through females, please do not say anything. Your efforts, on that ground, will not be accepted - you merely waste breath/effort. I do not mean here the much-easier dying out of unbroken male lines, i.e from father to son in all generations.

"no heirs", if it means no direct descendants of the earliest Fürst, is an impossibility now. Sorry to say this. But it is so. Human beings procreate. A family that has survived this many centuries (300 years) is bound to have descendants. I must underline that in three hundred years, there is not enough of plagues, other diseases, and constant wars, to kill every daughter and her every descendant, before someones of them have procreated progeny where someones survive. More likely, a family who were alive in the year 1700, has now something like 10 000 or at least 1000 direct descendants today. (a proof, qed: The succession-eligible descendants, i.e heirs of the 'body' of Electress Sophia of Hanover, currently number at least 5000 living persons, see the documentation on who are today eligible to succeed to the throne of the United Kingdom, under the provisions of the Act of Settlement of 1701). You might mean that there is NO male-line males surviving in the Schulenberg family's (agnatic) lineage. The current Edition of the Genealogische Handbuch des deutschen Adels might well say that Kris and Klaus are the only living male members of this noble lineage. (And, that all other male-lines have, long ago, ceased to procreate male children). It is certain that often, male branches of a family (or other) have been so-calledly "daughtering out". But this "no male-line males" is a totally different thing than "no heirs". See the wording "daughters out" in the previous paragraph. At least some of those daughters have left descendants. Adoption (or other device) can make an accepted heir, turning such from a descendant that descends through a daughter of the Schulenberg lineage. I believe Kris is (outwardly) in position to do the adoption. This is a Holy Roman title. There exists such a construct, called "semi-salic" succession, as to Holy Roman titles. And, there are precedents. The fürstliche lineage of the Princes of Putbus (it was located on the Rügen island) has been continued, now for several times, in a way that a daughter of the Putbus lineage succeeds as Princess of Putbus, and her son(s) then are permitted to succeed her in the title "Fürst zu Putbus", their son(s) etc succeeding in turn. The most recent of these took place in mid-1900s (there was no Monarch reigning to authorize the arrangement) and simply the Deutscher Adelsrechtsausschuss (Nobility Commission of Germany) decided to accept the arrangement. Thus, for example the Genealogische Handbuch des deutschen Adels (GHdA), a publication series of the best-recognized nobility's association (more or less corresponding to the old "Almanach de Gotha"), publishes such families as 'legitimate' nobility in the family genealogies there. The Putbus case and some others, offer precedents how it is done.

About Kris' legacy for the future: my vision is that Kris would do efforts to restore the princely Schulenberg lineage. To be again consisting of true heirs of its ancient blood. RESTORE. The old Schulenberg lineage is fully certain to have direct descendants, yet. Of course. It is sheer impossibility to destroy ALL descendants of princes who lived in around 1700. There are always heirs of blood of such persons. Possibly not of unbroken male line (though, even such could yet exist). However, descendants through daughters of the princely lineage are sure to survive. Possbly there are no descendants of those family members who were in 1930s the immediate family of the then Prince. But that does not kill the more distant descendants. I foresee a good rapport with one or a few nice genealogists for Kris to gather help from. This would be nice to see in the story's future chapters Kris, as gay, is easy to refrain from begetting children of his own. So, Kris could utilize the tool of doing adoption, to effectuate the restoration.