Aleric

Thats beautiful. Put lots of young boys in your stories and I am sure I'll like to read it. Note that I will like it with or without sex. The best stories on this site turn out to be those with almost no sex in it anyway: its not the sex scenes that carry the story - although sometimes it can be that looking forward to a sex scene can make it better - but more as a teaser. Will they get eachother? Slow, real slow... thats how I like it Aleric PS My first chapter is now 18828 words and there is no sex anywhere insight heheh. That is... you KNOW it going to come - but not this chapter. Yet, that is precisely what makes the story more interesting for our target audience I think.

Hey Patrick, that was definitely the right thing to do. Don't worry about losing Mike as friend - you really don't want to have friends that steal from their employer (or anyone else). I understand that you feel bad about betraying "a friend" but there was simply nothing else that you could do imho. Nothing saying something when you find out about something that happened is one thing - but he was STILL stealing and going to steal MORE in the future, and your manager was ASKING you! That means you'd have to LIE !!!! No way. I'd have told my manager for sure too, in your situation. Aleric

To my utter horror - I found that the links on MB's page are broken: http://www.geocities.com/madbomber_78/ I think that "A Circles End' was one of the best SF stories that I read so far, even though it doesn't contain any gay characters (but neither does it contain sex scenes, so it isn't annoying ). I mailed MB in the past, but he never replied. Does anyone know if he's still among us? Where are his stories? I searched the web, but there is no other copy of Circles End anywhere! That would be unacceptable. Hopefully, someone has a local copy, in the case that MB really doesn't respond to email anymore . Anyone? Aleric

Oh Please let us know how he is doing when you hear it! Aleric

Hi Patrick! don't take it personally man . I didn't read your story yet, because I am in the middle of another series (the HP series of Myr). Once I finished that, I'll look for another series to read - preferably one that is long or finished. Normally it could take a year or two years before I started to read your story - simply because I read all stories of one author before going to the next author and have a preference for long stories. However, if you ask me *personally* to read you story, then I will as soon as I finished the HP series ok? But then you have to promise me to read my first chapter too when I publish it heheh. Aleric PS No matter what, I WILL read it some day!

Duh, is that Daniel? Back to writing, Aleric

Ok, cut the crap^H^H^H^Hchit-chat, and post an url to a picture of this Daniel already!

Woah! You wrote a whole BOOK already! Huh... I thought about 'publishing' my first chapter online as soon as I finished the first chapter heheh. The story itself won't be finished then - I have no clue actually what I will write after the first or second chapter (vague ideas that I'll probably forget again before I get to it). Aleric PS I had printed out a part when i was visiting my parents (to correct it there), and my dad read it... He liked it and he wanted to know how it would continue heheh. I told him that I'd put it online for him (it is, I'm just not giving you guys the url which is actually NFS linked to my home directory where I am working on it. So, every change can immediately be read. In the meantime he has mailed me already four times that he wants to know how it continues (and that the parts that I added are good too ) Well - my dad is NOT a boy-lover, or gay, so if he already likes it this much, then maybe maybe others will think its a good story too? ) Not withstanding, I told my dad that he couldn't read the sex scene once I started to write them - that would hold me back (And yes, I am 100% out to my parents and brother) :king: Heh, my mother knew already that I was gay, and then after I returned from a holiday and told her beaming about meeting a boy on the camping in france who turned out to live in the same city (after that we were inseparable for many years ) ... well, you know how to talk and act when you are in love... And then my new friend called me, asking if I was at home... Oops. Something about his voice made my mother ask THE question Fortunately they never made a problem of it and we've been very good friends, inseparable as I already said, so either I did eat dinner at his house (his parents liked me too, I am a nice person *giggle*) or he was eating at our house Yeah, my (and his!) parents rock! )

I saw the movie "Stargate", but that is about it. I have no idea what you mean. Topic? You mean write a story? Aleric

Heya Patrick, I am working on my first story too - since 18 januari now. I keep going back and EVERYTIME I find grammar errors and worse In the beginning I wrote 1000 words per day, but now I spend almost all my time on fixing what I already wrote in the past - and I haven't added anything new for days The fact that just one chapter takes me 2 months of hard work makes me feel nervous too: what if nobody reads it at ALL?! heheh. Where are you going to post your story? What do you think will reach most people? Aleric

Hey now! I didn't know what a labia was either until I read this story! Aleric

Myr, here's a new smiley - I call it 'tears': Maby you can link it to You know, sometimes I AMAZE myself! In case others didn't notice yet, Myr has been so kind to add two other smileys that I created already: and Aleric (Alerics boyfriend) PS Does anyone have a suggestion for another smiley that he feels is really missing?

I don't want to make you guys jealous, but I am only at chapter 8 (going to read that tonight!). I print the chapters and read them, one every night before going to sleep . So, I have one more month of Harry and Draco coming :) Aleric

Of course this is really the decision of the moderators and all, but isn't this a bit too off topic? I know at least that I rather NOT read about these kind of things That's nothing personal dkstories, I appreciate it that you think about us when you want to share your frustration; but I like to think of this board as a safe-place AWAY of gay-misery. At least, that is what I think about when I say 'fantasy stories about my favourite topic'. Aleric

You MUST read 'SongMaster'. Its the best book I ever read. Its about friendship and perfect communication.

I've always thought that OSC was interested in boys himself. If you read his books, then you cannot conclude otherwise then that he is a boy-lover. I am surprised to read that he is a homophobe. Maybe the reason is that he always suppressed his feelings because of his religious background. It would be very well possible that he wrote his stories without even realizing that he likes boys. Or, maybe, just thinking nobody would ever notice. But it is VERY clear that he is popular with the gay community, and I am sure that I am not the first one to suggest that he is gay himself because of his stories. His reaction might therefore be out of frustration: being a married mormon he really, really doesn't want to be 'outed' by others while not even accepting his own feelings about this himself! That explains, for me, his extreme articles about homosexuality. Aleric PS Did you notice how many people on this site list Orson as their most popular writer? (I even listed him as the ONLY writer; he is definitely the best non-net writer that I ever read. And yes, SongMaster is the Best Book I ever read Holy shit!)

I think most of these laws exist because the majority of the people is straight and very badly informed. There is pressure from the side of religion and media. The bad information means for example that 90% of the people think with 'sex with a minor' about f**king the child, where only the pleasure of the adult man counts (ie, rape). They simply don't understand that 'sex' can be adjusted to the experience of someone. Two boys of 13 that are experimenting almost never have "sex", they just jack off mutually. However, when a boy of 13 would have 'sex' at their own level (ie, only jacking off) with an adult, then it is clear to me that this adult can talk the kid into ANYTHING - including f**king. A kid of that age is simply no match for an adult here. It wouldn't be rape, not at all, but it is also not the case that I think a kid can say 'no' in a situation like that. Remains the question if they are 'ready' for it or not. After all, it's a pretty personal experience and I am inclined to think that sex should indeed only happen when one is 100% concenting and there is no pressure whatsoever. Some kids will be ready (and willing) for whatever at that age, and others will not. But, which adults can be trusted to not pressure their lover? That is a very difficult problem. The straight (or rather, non-pedophile) majority just thinks "what the f**K - just forbid it. THAT is at least not bad for the kid". It's very easy to just forbid it, much and much easier than judging each case separately in detail. Anyway, it's not a simple problem. Relationships can be extremely complex in a psychological way. Think about those islamitic women that are beaten up and suppressed by their husband (have to think of that cause its in the media a lot over here), some may not even leave the house. Those wives are not children, they are mature adults. Yet, they are "programmed" to accept all the abuse... The main problem in a case of abuse is that often 'running away' is simply not an option (too drastic - and when you'd fail in running away COMPLETELY and instantly... the fear of failure for a successful 100% cut off of a relationship can make it very hard). I can think of a society in which children of 12 or 13 are allowed to do what they like sexually, but only when it would be so normal and accepted that it would be easy to talk about any type of stress in such a relationship: friends at school and parents should think it is ok and normal and a relationship should only be with people from which it is easy to run away from (ie, not with a school teacher). This point of view would defend to start with (officially) allowing sex of minors when the age diffference is not too large, say at most 2 years till both are over 16. Nevertheless, start with teaching the majority the difference between sex (games) and rape - cause they don't even seem to understand that!

Please do! I read it in one blow. Its wonderful! Aleric

Psionic Corpse, part 3. The next morning I woke up around 5:30 am as usual. While brushing my teeth the phone started to rang, so I quickly rinsed and picked it up. "Ian, the president here. There has been a change of plans. You are to go to a man that calls himself Myr. The address will be handed to you in an hour at which point you will be escorted to the airport. You will have to ask him, tell him, or even use your psionic powers to FORCE him to continue with his work on the 'PC' project." "Yes, sir." I replied. Force him? What happened to privacy, I thought? "This is more important than anything Ian." The president sounded tired, as if he had not been sleeping all night, as if he'd been laying in bed awake, perhaps reading, all night. "This is more important than Dave, my son, more important than National Security." He paused for a moment. "This is about the very continuation of humanity, Ian. I am sorry that I have to put this on your shoulders. But you're our only hope." Aleric

Boxers for me too, with a flat/broad elastic band. In fact, last week I bought 4 new ones One of them has a picture of Garfield on it *giggle* Aleric

Hmmpf. I can't lie. Aleric

Hi Comsie I've been posting in 'General discussion' mostly... but I never see you post there, so I guess you don't read it. The reason I ended up on this forum, recently, is because started to write my own story, just two weeks ago or so. And well, you are the reason for that as well as me finding this site to begin with I am having a very hard time with my story... it seems I started off with an extremely difficult and complex story line... but, I can't tell you about it, don't want to give anything away. I just ... hope ... that you will read it too, once I am ready to post chapter 1 Aleric

Bah, I get sick when I read this I hope this stuff is limited to sick (sorry) countries like the USA. What is WRONG with people these days? Don't get me wrong, I am not attacking you guys, but to read that "you can't even f**king MAIL an under age back out of fear for whatever!" ARGH! This really really upsets me to hear it! Kids are people too, and they happen to be the people that I care the most for (as does everyone or so they claim). So, when a kid would email me then sure as hell he gets priority with a reply from me! Now I understand that children do better when not going into a request to meet someone - because there are enough sickos out there, so I'd be the last to encourage them to think that it is ok to meet anyone, ever, by trying to set up a meeting myself. But I am not aware of a law that would forbid me to try and set up a meeting with a kid either. Not that I intend to, but I refuse to a-priory "promise" not to do that. I think that I have the common sense to know what is right and wrong - and I won't do anything wrong, simple as that. "Wrong" here means, anything bad for someone else. If these kids are reading your stories, and those stories contain graphic descriptions of sexual acts and other emotional stuff; then does ANYONE think that it will help those kids if you tell then they are not allowed to read it? Or shouldn't read it? Or, God forbids, that they will be punished if they read it? Now, law or no law, I see no harm in reading the type of stories that we write (although I didn't read all of them of course). Children are healthy curious, and when they are interested in this type of story at a young age than I don't give a damn they read it; there is just ONE thing that matters: they very likely need a little help, a comforting word, understanding, a pat on their shoulder. Hey, you're not alone and it is ok, kind of thing. Sure, in some cases it might better if they had not read it, but we can't change that. I am not going to try and contact the parents anyway (I'd never betray a kid like that, except when it was to save their lifes). Grmbl. Sorry, I suppose you can tell that I am pretty mad about this pathetic "Oh lets protect the childeren against this EVIL called sex!", yeah - guess what they will get a trauma of What I want to say is this. If we can't HELP boys, like Myr said, in the "highest suicide rate" age group, because of some #@!$@$ witch-hunt beep beep beep. Then they can stick their morals in their beep and beeeepbeeeep beep beep. Now, .. I really don't want to add this, cause I believe that this site is only read by intelligent people. Sigh, but here it goes: No, I don't mean that it is ok email them porno graphics texts, or links there too, or encourage them to do things you wouldn't encourage your own son to do too. And I also don't think it is ok to encourage them to do anything (including meeting you) that you think their parents wouldn't agree with. But we ARE responsible, we ARE the right people to give them the support they might need. So just give it when you think they need a friend. Now, if that still doesn't make you nod in agreement, here are a few examples what I think is common sense: 1) Boy of 13 reacts to a story with lots of graphic sex in it. He says he liked it. Reply: Thanks for mailing me John. 2) Boy of 13 reacts to the same and tells you that he is thinking about committing suicide cause his parents will never ever understand it. Reply: Send him a long, understanding mail in which you explain that things might look bad now but that suicide is not a solution. Remind him that his parents love him and will always love him, and give him a few real good links to sites for further help. Most importantly, make it clear that you are there for him whenever he needs you to be, and that he is welcome to mail you anytime he feels like it. Ok, I hope I made my point clear . Common sense thus. Aleric

Its not true. Enough proof for that is the fact that it is untastefully set up as a chain-letter. That makes no sense, therefore it is clear that THAT is the main objective. Some people just like to write chain letters and do anything to get them to go around the world a few times (and see them back like graphity on the walls). Another reason to see that it can't be true is simply because besides that it is very sad, it is extermely unlikely: the kid was HOPELESS. Then how can he ever, suddenly, self-taught, play mozard like some wonder-child? And then the mother is deaf?! Do you really think that she'd have taken a kid for lessons without ever speaking a single word to the mother? Pure bullshit. Still a nice story though