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Endings - 8. Chapter 8 Explanations

Was it that bad?

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Explanations

 

 

“Your dog is awesome… really friendly.”

“Thanks. He’s a rescue from Northern Canada… Yukon is what we were told when he was released to us.”

“Ah, Yukon,” Dawson said wistfully. “Maybe he came from Brent’s area. He looks like a little husky.”

“With floppy ears and shepherd coloring, yeah.” Chase took a sip of his iced coffee, thinking about how sad Dawson’s story had been. Sometimes, people missed their chance because of stupid circumstances, and it sucked… especially when they were in an environment they didn’t feel safe in, like locker rooms filled with bigoted macho bullshit. He’d been lucky in many regards, but he understood enough to know why both guys had kept their secrets. If only Dawson and Brent had kept in touch. “Thanks for this… it’s good.”

“You’re welcome. You can buy on the next ride.”

Chase shot him a smile, feeling confident there would be a next time for them. “For sure.”

They sat in silence, side by side on one of the picnic tables bordering the busy parking lot. Chase was enjoying the coolness the early evening brought, but dreading telling Dawson his own story. He cleared his throat and twisted, setting his half-empty drink on the table. “Hank thinks I cheated on him.”

Dawson’s head swiveled toward him. “Did you?”

“Not in the way he thinks, but yeah, I kissed someone.”

“Shit happens, man. Did you tell him about it?”

“Didn’t need to. He saw it. This guy I was dancing with, and maybe even flirting with… he followed me into the bathroom… into a stall when I was taking a leak, and it happened. I don’t remember much, but I know I felt… like… overpowered by the whole thing… and… I was trying to get out of it without any drama, because I didn’t want it….”

“Ah, now it makes sense, what I heard. So, what happened?”

Chase took another sip before answering. “Like I said, Hank saw the whole thing. He showed up at “Endings” out of the blue, just in time to see me fucking up my entire life… and his.”

Endings?”

“Yeah… it’s a popular dance bar on the weekends.”

“Stupid name for a bar.”

Chase snorted. “Kind of prophetic, it turns out. It used to be called “Happy Endings” when it opened—which the owners probably thought was clever—but a storm shorted out the blue “Happy” section of the neon sign on the west side of the building, and now only the red “Endings” lights up, on the south side.”

“Oh, so it wrapped around a corner?”

“Exactly… probably because of the windows on the top level. Don’t know why they never fixed it—guess it’s totally fucked—but everyone calls it “Endings” now anyway. You’ve never seen it?”

Dawson shook his head. “Not a bar person, but I thought I knew all the ones on Church Street.”

“Yeah, it’s not on Church. You have to go east on Jarvis a couple of blocks.” Chase stared at his hands, avoiding the gaze he knew was on him. For the first time, he wondered just how Hank knew he’d been there. Had he taken a guess, or had he searched all the other bars for him first? The thought made him feel even more ashamed.

“So, what did Hank do when he saw you and… the guy?”

“He left.”

“He didn’t say anything?”

Chase shook his head. “I’d already hurt him bad, and I guess he saw all he needed to.”

“How—”

“I turned down his proposal earlier that night. He made a special dinner for us, and then he gave me a rose as he knelt down on one knee. I… I couldn’t speak at first, and he asked me again… he kept talking, saying we could pick out rings together… and I could pick the spot… and the date… and then he asked me what was wrong. He… I can still picture how he looked when I finally found my voice and said I couldn’t marry him. It was awful… I got freaked out and… and I left. Just like that, I fucking left. I left him there… I stood up, dropped the rose, and left. Who the hell does that?”

“I don’t know what to say, man, but… hey, you must have had your reasons.”

Chase tried to quell the effects of the horrible memory, gritting his teeth in determination not to get emotional. “I…I did, and I figured them out, but that doesn’t help me now. He’s convinced I actually fucked that guy.”

“Why would he think you—”

“Because I didn’t go home for five hours after he saw me.”

“So? What does that have to do with it?”

Chase met his gaze. “Thanks, Dawson, for your support, but you must see his point. I was wrapped up in what I was feeling… not what he was going through, and I didn’t even think of how much time had passed. That was selfish. For five hours he was going crazy, wondering where I was… after what he’d seen. I just found out he came back to the bar again, not long after he left. I wasn’t there, and, according to him, neither was that guy, so he put two and two together, and got five.”

“But you didn’t, right?”

“See… it makes you wonder, doesn’t it? It makes everyone wonder. No, I didn’t. The thing is, how do I get him to believe me? So many times I was going to call him that night, but I chickened out… mistake after mistake after fucking mistake.”

“I wasn’t wondering… and you can’t give up, for his sake and yours.”

“I’ve tried, but it’s no use. I blew it.”

“There must be a way. Why did he think I was the one from the bar?”

“Your hair and height apparently, and your scruff.” He studied his concerned friend’s face, but it didn’t trigger any memory. “Your hair is similar, I think. Other than dark hair, I don’t recall much about the guy… I think he was heavier than you, though… there wasn’t much room in… there.”

“Were you drunk?”

Chase nodded, his prior anger replaced by intense shame. What right did he have to be pissed at Hank? “I wasn’t falling-down drunk, but I sure wasn’t thinking straight.”

“Hey, we’ve all been there.”

“Not Hank.”

“Never?”

Chase shook his head. “He doesn’t think much of drinking.”

“Okay… well, he sure looked upset, and that has to mean something.”

“Yeah… it means he hates me.”

“I doubt it’s that simple, not if he proposed to you. He needs to know the truth.”

“He saw the truth,” Chase said morosely, letting his guard down as his eyes watered.

“Give him time, man.”

“You don’t know him. He’ll never forgive what I did, and I have to accept that. Kevin is a better fit for him anyway.”

“Who’s Kevin?”

“Just an old friend I saw Hank with on Saturday. They looked good together… happy… until they saw me.”

“And you think—”

“I don’t want to think anymore. I just want to go home.”

 

Weeks passed, and Chase slowly adapted. He continued to see his doctor, and with each session, he came away a little lighter, better armed against the darkness, and carrying more clarity. Except for their previous appointment when, while he was on his way out the door, Dr. Chorney commented that he thought Hank would appreciate knowing the man Chase was becoming. When he asked what his therapist meant, the answer confused him even more. ‘You stand your ground now. It’s an admirable quality.’ He’d smiled an enigmatic smile, and said no more. Chase would have to wait.

He’d left confused about why Hank would appreciate that he stood his ground, whatever that meant, and why Dr. Chorney bring him up in such a cryptic way. It had to mean something, though. The doctor was an expert at throwing him off kilter and making him think. By the next morning, he’d concluded the doctor was trying to build up his confidence as he worked at moving on with his life. Fair enough. If nothing else, it was a stamp of approval.

Rex was adapting well. Chase now had him regularly, sometimes for days at a time. All he had to do was text Hank and then meet him in front of his building at a specified time, and do the same thing to return him. They greeted one another, even made small talk a few lines at a time, but there were boundaries neither one crossed. Anything personal was off-limits. It was sad as hell, and it had been ages since Hank’s dazzling smile made an appearance in his presence. His beautiful, expressive eyes were always shuttered now, giving little away.

Chase tried not to dwell on their new situation too much. At times he thought it was ridiculous to the point of silly—other times it made him angry at how Hank had thrown them away—but most times he just felt numb, and took this new reality in stride. At least Rex seemed happy. Having him at the condo was a godsend, and many an evening was spent on the rug in front of the TV, cuddling with his black and tan comforter, once the dog been worn out for the day.

Dawson, living right across the road, often came over for supper, or just a beer or two. Other times, Chase would drop by his place. The small backyard, shared with the basement tenant, was a nice place to relax, and had a kick-ass barbecue. And of course they biked together almost daily.

Their friendship was comfortable… they seemed to click on so many levels. There were times, though, he felt the other man staring at him, and he suspected there was interest there… a little anyway… or maybe it was just loneliness. Regardless, as much as he liked him, he couldn’t bring himself to invite anything more than friendship. Dr. Chorney told him he would get there, with someone, but there was no timetable he knew of, and would offer no advice other than to be careful with his heart.

He was on his way over to pick up Rex on a Thursday evening, anxious to see him after a tough day at work, and he pulled up to the entrance right on time. Surprisingly, no animal or person was waiting for him. Hank was always punctual, and he’d responded to his text in the affirmative, thirty minutes earlier. It was no big deal, so he pulled into one of the few parking spots available along the front of the building. Getting out of his car, he leaned against the back of it, and waited.

After a few minutes, he sent off a text to say he was there, but it went unanswered, and it wasn’t until ten minutes later Hank appeared at the entry… alone.

Chase pushed away from the back of his vehicle. “Hey, where’s Rex?”

“Sorry. Change of plans.”

“Why? Is he okay?”

“Yeah, he’s fine. I’m going on a trip tomorrow morning, to Kevin’s dad’s cottage, and it’s a good place for him to just be a dog. You don’t mind, do you?”

Kevin again. Annoyance surged, but he tamped it down. “No, not at all. He’ll have fun, but why didn’t you just tell me that earlier?”

“Sorry, I just got off the phone with Kevin. It was a spur of the moment decision.”

“Okay, no problem, and say hi to Kevin’s dad for me, will you? He’s a cool guy.” He turned to leave when Hank responded.

“I won’t be seeing him, but I’ll tell Kev to pass it along—Gerry’s in the states for a couple of weeks, visiting family.”

Kev. His annoyance heightened. “I see…so it’s just you and him going?”

Hank nodded, meeting his gaze briefly as he did. “See you later.”

“Hank?” he called to the man’s retreating back.

Hank did a half turn. “Yeah?”

“Can we talk?”

“Sorry, I can’t now. I have a lot to do before we leave.” When he turned away again, Chase exploded with anger.

“You’re a fucking coward,” he said loudly, looking at Hank with disgust. He was deliberately issuing a challenge, knowing Hank would hate that.

“Excuse me?”

“I said you’re a coward. You claimed you wanted to be friends, but you’ve put me off since you said it, and you can’t even face me. You owe me some respect at least, don’t you think?”

“Owe you? You’re kidding, right? I don’t owe you a goddam thing,” he spat out with his own sudden anger.

“You sure as fuck do.” Chase took a couple of steps closer, and so did Hank, stepping off the curb onto the driveway.

“Of all the gall… I wasn’t the one who fucked things up between us, or are you forgetting that?”

“No, you didn’t, not initially, but you were damn quick to walk away.” Bullseye! He’d scored a hit that had Hank sputtering.

“Jesus… I can’t believe you… what the fuck did you expect? I… no… look… no… this is getting us nowhere.”

“And there you go again. Run, Hank, run. It’s okay—Kevin’s a better choice for you anyway. Wait… no… scratch that. I’m the better choice, but all you see is your mom when you look at me.”

“How dare you! This has nothing to do with that woman so leave her the hell out of it!”

“Oh… struck a nerve, did I? Doesn’t it, though? You are so full of shit. Your mom was a cheater who destroyed your family—and your dad—and I get it, but don’t fucking paint me with that brush. It’s not fair, and the Hank I used to know would have realized that!” He’d gotten his wish, because Hank was now seething.

“You want to talk about what isn’t fair? Let me see… okay, that would be seeing your boyfriend, who just turned down your proposal with no fucking explanation whatsoever, making out with some random guy in a sleazy bathroom stall, and then staying out half the night without a fucking phone call. Don’t talk to me about fair, you sonofabitch!”

“Hey, no problem here,” he said, holding his hands up in supplication. “We both agree I fucked up, but so did you.”

Hank sputtered again, a thunderous expression clouding his face. “How in blazes did I fuck up?”

“By closing shop and running, and you’re still doing it. People make mistakes, Hank… that’s life, but you wouldn’t even let me explain, and that wasn’t fair… not to me or not to you.”

“Christ, you’re unbelievable. Okay, you want to explain? Go ahead then, explain, if you can.”

“Oh, I can, and I will. Yes, you asked me to marry you, and yes I turned you down, but do you know what I was thinking of?”

“No clue,” Hank answered, spitting the words out.

“Exactly my point! Shouldn’t you have wanted to know?”

“I had a few other things on my mind, so excuse me,” he answered sarcastically.

“Okay, at first, but since? Really? You didn’t want to hear why? I don’t get that.”

“Of course you don’t. You didn’t get your heart ripped out of your chest. You didn’t see what I saw, and you weren’t waiting for your boyfriend to come home, picturing him fucking someone else the whole goddam time. So forgive me if I didn’t want to hear any contrived excuses for something inexcusable.”

“Okay, some of what you say is true, and I’ve already apologized for being the world’s biggest idiot, for saying no to your proposal, for not thinking rationally after you left… for drinking too much… for everything… but you’re wrong about me not getting my heart ripped out. I’m sorry, Hank, but my heart was broken too. If that’s what you wanted, you sure as hell achieved it.”

Hank gave a derisive snort, but kept his mouth shut while he glared at Chase.

“All right. This is where we’re at then, but I’ll say my piece before I go. When you proposed, all I could think of was my mom. I had this overwhelming feeling I couldn’t explain at the time, not even to myself, but I can now. It was that I didn’t deserve to be happy when she was dead and buried. Six months should have been enough time to get past losing her, but it wasn’t—not for me—not when it came to a wedding ceremony she wouldn’t get to see or be a part of. I’m not going to apologize for feeling that way—no fucking way. I didn’t handle my mom’s illness well in the past, but I’m better now, and I’m proud of how far I’ve come.”

Chase took a deep breath to steady himself. “I experienced this weird mess of emotions when you proposed, but I didn’t understand them, especially while you were staring at me and waiting for an answer… I panicked, Hank. I could hardly fucking breathe—that’s the truth—and I felt an anxiety attack coming on, so I took off because I didn’t know what to say after I said I couldn’t marry you. I… I didn’t know why those words left my mouth… but they did… and I didn’t know how to take them back.

“It took a while to sort through everything, but I figured most of it out by myself, the night you kept watch over me, and I really thought you would want to listen… but even now, after all this time, you don’t give a damn. I’m a victim of survivor’s guilt, according to Dr. Chorney. Look it up if you can be bothered.” Chase took another deep breath, but his strength didn’t desert him.

“I wanted to marry you, Hank… I did, and I’m sorry… you have to know that. I didn’t have any doubts once I calmed down, but I didn’t think I deserved you either. I know you scoffed when I said it before, but I knew I’d been a burden. I was scared and I was stupid and I was ashamed—and I just wanted to forget. So, I drank and I danced, and I’m sure I led that guy on—not intentionally—but what you saw was all that was ever going to happen. I wished I had been aggressive and pushed him away, but I was trying to avoid a big scene, and I thought it must have been my fault he thought he could follow me. I was never good at confrontation….” Feeling drained, he waited for Hank to respond. He didn’t have to wait long.

“It’s a damn good story, Chase. How long did it take you to come up with it?”

The angry glint he saw pissed him off. “Fuck you, Hank. I know who I am, but apparently you don’t. Believe me, don’t believe me, but you should have given us a chance before you latched on to Kevin. I didn’t latch onto anyone.”

“Yeah right! What about pretty boy Dawson?”

“We’re just friends.”

“Uh huh, sure. You’re just a fucking angel, aren’t you?”

“No, I’m not, and I’ve never said I was. I’ve made mistakes and I own them… you should own yours.”

“I do.”

Right. So are you and Kevin official?”

Hank’s hesitation gave him his answer. “Not that it’s any of your business, but no.”

“Seriously?”

“Yes, seriously! I don’t need to explain myself to you, but that’s what this weekend is about. We’re going to decide where we go from—”

“You’re going to fuck, you mean.” Chase said, his heart sinking. “Congratulations, Hank. I hope he loves you as much as I did.” He turned away, but quickly turned back. “I dragged you through a lot of crap when I couldn’t handle my shit, and I thank you for putting up with me, but I was wrong about not deserving you. I would have been there for you, past or future, if the situation was reversed and you were the one struggling.”

“I know that,” Hank snapped, but some of the previous derision had left his voice.

“Do you? Then how could you give me up so easily?”

“Because this is something different… you crossed a line, Chase, and you walked away from me… you ran, more like it, so don’t say something so ridiculous. I did not give you up.”

“Yes, Hank… you did, and you can’t even own it. At least now we know where we stand, right?” Hank didn’t answer, and Chase, resigned to the fact their conversation had put further distance between them, sighed before getting into his SUV and driving away. Hank was still standing on the pavement as he pulled out onto the road.

 

“What’s wrong?”

“Nothing. Got a beer?”

“Sure. Come in. Where’s Rex… thought you were picking him up?”

“So did I.” Following behind Dawson, he put his hand on his shoulder, effectively turning him around. Dawson peered curiously at him. Chase swallowed. “Can I… would you mind if I kissed you?”

“You want to kiss me?”

Chase nodded.

“Why? I mean, I wouldn’t mind, but… what’s going on here?”

“It’s important.”

“All right,” Dawson said, drawing the words out.

Chase took that for a yes. Before he could change his mind, he leaned forward, lightly touching the man’s lips with his own. Pulling slightly back, he stared at his friend’s handsome face. His eyes were closed and his lips were parted. What the fuck was he doing?

Dawson’s face inched closer, the invitation clear, and Chase kissed him again, this time with more pressure. As far as kisses went, it was good—sweet, tender—there was caring there. Chase pulled back again, and watched as Dawson’s eyes opened. For what seemed like an eternity, they stared at one another.

“Not such a good idea?”

Chase shook his head slowly. “Shit… sorry… I shouldn’t have… I don’t want to drag you into something that—”

“Don’t worry about me. Let me get that beer and we can go outside and sit. And you, mister, can tell me what is going on in that pretty little head of yours.”

“Can I have a raincheck? I think I need to be alone.”

Dawson stopped and turned around. “Was the kiss that bad?” He was smiling, and Chase forced himself to return it.

He shook his head. “No, definitely not, but….”

“I’m not Hank.”

“It… it felt like I was cheating.”

“Again, you mean.”

“What?”

“Like at the bar… you need to let that go. Look, stop being so hard on yourself. A kiss is just a kiss, and you are not a cheater. Life goes on.”

“Tell that to the man I just went off on. I did tell him that, but he doesn’t agree.”

“Oh… that bad?”

“Pretty bad.”

“Sorry.”

“No, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have done this… come here and….”

“Kiss me? Stop. You haven’t been listening. You didn’t take advantage of me, and you sure as hell didn’t cheat on anyone. You think I don’t know where your heart is? Now, do you want that beer or not? I won’t let you kiss me again, I promise.”

His grin was contagious, and Chase snorted. “Was it that bad for you?”

“Hell no, but it’s been so long I might not be the best judge,” he said with genuine humor, and Chase immediately loosened up.

“Okay… I’ll have that beer.”

“Coming right up. So, why no Rex? I was looking forward to seeing him.”

“He’s going away to a cottage for the weekend, with Hank and Kevin.”

Dawson stopped at the fridge door and turned. “Just the three of them?”

“Yup. This is the weekend they’re going to fuck.”

“He said that?” Dawson’s eyebrows shot up toward his hairline.

“No, not in so many words, but he said they were going to make some decisions on where they were, officially, and he didn’t deny it.”

“Fuck”—he handed Chase his beer—“good thing I bought another twelve-pack. I think we’re going to need it. And if that runs out, I’ve got wine.”

 

 

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3 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

But would Hank had told him they'd be alone after hearing Chase's side though? Would he have wanted to hurt him that much after hearing chase bear all? Honestly after chase saying his peace it was like the wind was knocked out of his sails and I don't think Hank would've had it in him afterwards. But like I said I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

This one had me do a double take, Wes. It's an excellent question. You know what? I don't think he would have. He struck out, but he hadn't heard what he needed to. Now, is he too stubborn to think it all through? That's another good question. Thanks for this, buddy. :worship: 

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You know, after digesting the comments about Hank and Chase’s mutual friends, I have to wonder how they’ll react to a relationship between Hank and Kevin. Other than possibly Carlos, I can’t imagine they’d see it as healthy. Or fair for that matter.

It’s only been maybe two months or so at this point, which is a pretty quick turnaround time after a breakup. The pair could be finding much needed comfort in one another’s arms but that alone isn’t a healthy baseline. They were both in the same boat as spurned lovers go, sure, but like Gary mentioned, you don’t poach your friend’s ex-boyfriend.

So, maybe there’s more to Hank’s isolation than just depression and/or Kevin’s influence. Yet another layer of scar tissue protecting Hank’s heart.

Or, more likely, this is me looking for more reasons not to disapprove of their relationship.

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Kevin reminds me of an old neighbour of ours, who also had issues with committing to marrying his girlfriend even though they had been engaged for a long time, Ben felt that because both his mother and sister’s marriage broke down that his would too eventually. The strange thing was that both him and his girlfriend lived together for 9 years they broke up and he moved out, but as they are both athletes and members of the same athletic group they saw each other from time to time at events, they got back together for about 18 months but have now split permanently, and have moved on with their own lives, both of them have bought their own home, have a new partner but still see the other at some events although she is a semi professional athlete competing in various marathons and triathlons, her new guy is a bit of a drip, it’s more of a sexual relationship than anything else as he has said that he doesn’t see them settling down with a family. Personally I think that she should find herself a new man that wants everything that she does as she keeps saying that her biological clock is ticking.

we have not met Ben’s new girlfriend but we are told that she is higher maintenance than the previous one was and she can be domineering, which is not good. 😒

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12 hours ago, Danners said:

Personally, I think he took Rex as a means of twisting the knife. Maybe not entirely on purpose, but I suspect that was part of the goal. Despite what he claimed, he had time to email Chase while he was on the phone with Kevin, both saving him a trip and sparing him the knowledge of going to the cottage with Kevin. Instead he announced it offhandedly like it was no big deal that Chase was so easily replaced.

Or Kevin suggested it. My money’s on Kevin. 

I think that Hank just did it to annoy Chase but Chase needs to let go of having any association with Hank and that also means Rex, after the way Hank has treated Chase he should cut al, ties with him and move on, Hank needs to rehome Rex as a large dog should not be cooped up in a flat, it’s not fair to him he should have a yard to run around. 

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Thus far there has been zero evidence of any forgiveness from Hank even several weeks after the event. Indeed he appears to continue to want to rub Chase's nose into the mess. Any sensible person would have given up and walked away by now. The fact Chase hasn't must indicate either he really does love Hank, or he actually enjoys being hurt. Problem is that Hank can't accept the former and perhaps is now enjoying the latter.

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8 hours ago, Danners said:

You know, after digesting the comments about Hank and Chase’s mutual friends, I have to wonder how they’ll react to a relationship between Hank and Kevin. Other than possibly Carlos, I can’t imagine they’d see it as healthy. Or fair for that matter.

It’s only been maybe two months or so at this point, which is a pretty quick turnaround time after a breakup. The pair could be finding much needed comfort in one another’s arms but that alone isn’t a healthy baseline. They were both in the same boat as spurned lovers go, sure, but like Gary mentioned, you don’t poach your friend’s ex-boyfriend.

So, maybe there’s more to Hank’s isolation than just depression and/or Kevin’s influence. Yet another layer of scar tissue protecting Hank’s heart.

Or, more likely, this is me looking for more reasons not to disapprove of their relationship.

Yes!!! How will they react. My question is what is up with Carlos though. Every other of the friends have the decency to stay out of it, yet he is firmly in Hanks camp. unless he's got a thing for hank. One question in the back of my mind is, what is the difference between john/Kevin's breakup and Chase/Hanks? I mean John and Chase are the perceived cheaters, and yet everyone shunned John but are at least trying to remain neutral to Chase, with the exceptions of Carlos and Kevin. What did John do that made him persona non grata to everyone. Did anyone hear John's side? From what it sounds like they've heard Kevin's and decided to run with it. And maybe that's why theyre remaining neutral in this one they heard both sides but are refraining from shunning one over the other. Right now in this story though, Stacey is my hero. Her and Dawson are the only real friends Chase has, and it seems, Stacey is the only true friend Hank has. I mean she's actually contacted both unlike the other cowards.

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3 minutes ago, Wesley8890 said:

Yes!!! How will they react. My question is what is up with Carlos though. Every other of the friends have the decency to stay out of it, yet he is firmly in Hanks camp. unless he's got a thing for hank. One question in the back of my mind is, what is the difference between john/Kevin's breakup and Chase/Hanks? I mean John and Chase are the perceived cheaters, and yet everyone shunned John but are at least trying to remain neutral to Chase, with the exceptions of Carlos and Kevin. What did John do that made him persona non grata to everyone. Did anyone hear John's side? From what it sounds like they've heard Kevin's and decided to run with it. And maybe that's why theyre remaining neutral in this one they heard both sides but are refraining from shunning one over the other. Right now in this story though, Stacey is my hero. Her and Dawson are the only real friends Chase has, and it seems, Stacey is the only true friend Hank has. I mean she's actually contacted both unlike the other cowards.

It seems to me the difference between the John and Chase is that John actually cheated on Kevin, whereas Chase kissed some random dude. The other couples seem to get that a kiss isn’t the apocalyptic cataclysm Hank is making it out to be. Carlos may take exception to the circumstances surrounding how Chase arrived in that bathroom stall, namely how he could make out with another man after turning down Hank’s proposal.

That’s the impression I get anyway. 

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5 minutes ago, Danners said:

It seems to me the difference between the John and Chase is that John actually cheated on Kevin, whereas Chase kissed some random dude. The other couples seem to get that a kiss isn’t the apocalyptic cataclysm Hank is making it out to be. Carlos may take exception to the circumstances surrounding how Chase arrived in that bathroom stall, namely how he could make out with another man after turning down Hank’s proposal.

That’s the impression I get anyway. 

But the thing is do we know 100% for sure John cheated. Because now it seems like Kevin is a bit manipulative. Kevin organized the cabin trip, Kevin is consoling Hank. All we know for sure are two things Kevin said John cheated and everyone shunned John. We haven't been told that the friends heard John's side, so like alot of it we just assume they heard it and that's why they shunned him. But isn't it possible Kevin manipulated the whole group of friends. I mean he was so heartbroken and now he's planning cabin trips with someone else's ex? Who just happened to be the one guy that could help him through it? Remember chase said he tried but he couldn't, what if it wasn't as much as Chase couldn't, but Kevin didn't want anyone to help him but Hank.

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15 hours ago, ColumbusGuy said:

I have to admit it was a chore getting through all the comments to this point, but doing so opened a few new avenues of consideration.  Some of the twists and turns and motivations attributed to both sides are positively byzantine, and while they may be true, doubt remains thanks to the old application of Occan's Razor.  Are these men so full of loathing for one another that they would construct elaborate citadels to oppose one another?
I may not like Hank at the moment for dismissing Chase's reasoning, but it fits with his past experiences of betrayal by those he loved.  Love is blind, but what does that say of Hate--equally blind or focussed laser-sharp?  I'll add this: Chase has advanced to seeing the world in shades of color as we all did in the 60s, while Hank is stuck in the black and white era of the 50s.  It's a huge difference, and I can't help but think of the Calvin & Hobbes comic where the father tells the boy the world was all black and white until the 60s when it turned to color, and the mom yelled at him for messing up their hyper-imaginative son's mind more than it already was....
All the speculation is intriguing, but it's just that--Gary isn't telling us the answer like any good writer holds things in reserve.  Just as the characters are making assumptions, so Gary is meting out just enough for us to do the same.
Huge props to Gary for drawing us into this rocky affair, and now I'm going to try to ease my headache by a little nap.
I think this might be your most provocative work to date, my dear G-Man.

Excellent point, CG. This is maybe more complicated than it needs to be. These were men who loved each other during a very difficult time. Dr. Chorney made a good point about Chase being stuck in childhood, missing his mommy and daddy. He went through an ordeal, and Hank was the protector. Simply put, their relationship didn't have the normal process... Christine's illness, and Chase's subsequent depression, took precedence. They had the love and the caring, but did they have the maturation? And then Christine Leeman was gone, and the dynamic changed. Grief took control for a while, and Chase questioned what he deserved, and Hank is now questioning what Chase really wants. There is no Machiavellian plot... just human beings fucking up... mistake after mistake after mistake, as Chase said. 

I agree, Hank is a product of his past... and with these developments, the effects of that have grayed his thinking. Issues long buried, now have come to the fore, screaming their need for resolution. Hence, he is being an asshole, but it doesn't mean he isn't worthy of consideration. He was, after all, Chase's rock for years... now he seems to be the one who is lost. Just saying.... and I loved the comic reference. :) 

Thanks for the great thoughts, buddy, and the props. I write what's in my head, and it's incredibly rewarding when a story connects with readers like this. I love all the speculation and examination. It makes for a tremendous experience for me. I hope your headache has eased... 

My most provocative work to date? Could be. :D  Cheers, dear friend... G-man. :hug:  xoxoxoxo

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15 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

Preaching to the choir about depression. That's one reason why I really behind chase so much. I can identify with him. It's been just over a year since my mom died and there are days where I just don't think I should be happy. That's what really ticked me off about Hanks reply when he said how long did it take for you to come up with that. But now I'm curious as to why Carlos is the holdout. 

I hear you, buddy. I hard a hard time dealing with the loss of my mom. :hug:  I believe, despite his callousness, Hank was reeling from Chase's 'attack.'  Chase was more or less relentless in his determination, which is why we are all proud of him, but imagine what Hank saw... this was a different Chase, in my opinion, and I think his. The explanation was really a fight, and fights get out of control. :unsure:  We may hear more from Carlos... possibly....

14 hours ago, Parker Owens said:

I have tried to keep an open mind about Hank. I keep trying to see events through his eyes, through the lens of his experience. With that in mind, his visceral reaction to what happened with Chase is understandable. However, my understanding is wearing thin. If Hank really wants to paint a grieving and emotionally spent Chase as a villain, then nothing anyone can say will alter that. One can only hope Chase can find someone who listens better, and Hank can find someone who can deal with his unbridled suspicions. Great chapter. More soon? 

I'm glad you are keeping an open mind, Parker. I know it is hard... I have to walk a hard line with these characters, so it's all I can ask for. As I've said before, there is a lot more story to go... and different avenues to explore. In the meantime, its perfectly understandable to hold Hank in contempt. He's falling far short of the man Chase has described. 

Monday=more. :P  Cheers and thanks, buddy.... :hug: 

14 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

you know i cant wait until Chase's dad returns home. for some reason i think he may be the only one who could make Hank see the light. now whether Chase would welcome that help from dad is another story. has Cindy tried talking to Hank?

Cindy talked to Hank initially, back when Chase was hiding away, but not since. I guess you could say she has taken sides in her own way. She was Chase's only confidant until Stacy called... and now there is Dawson. Professionally, he has Dr. Chorney... who does Hank have? Kevin?

Yes, maybe their father could help Chase get through this mess. How much affect he could have on Hank is a good question. He would have been a father figure to the man before all this happened. Yes, very good question, Wes. :) 

13 hours ago, Sss0226 said:

Wow y’all are so hard on Hank! I feel sorry for him, and I feel like he’s become isolated from everyone but Kevin (maybe BY Kevin) and that Kevin is manipulating Hank for his own purposes. Hopefully Hank will wise up after Chase told him a few  hard truths about himself - I personally think there’s still hope for them as long as neither jumps too quickly into another relationship and they have an honest discussion about the past and moving forward. Stay tuned, right?! 

Understandable in many ways, but yeah, Hank has become the villain. Hey, Sss0226!  I'm happy to hear you have sympathy for the man despite his confusing reactions. I'm sure Hank is thinking about what he heard from Chase in this latest volley. Will it do any good? Yeah, stay tuned. :P  There can always be hope, even during the darkest times, but sometimes we might be hoping for the wrong thing.  :unsure2:  Thanks and cheers... Gary.... :hug: 

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10 hours ago, Danners said:

Could’ve been as simple as wanting to make Chase as jealous of Kevin as Hank was of Dawson. When his stubborn refusal to see reason was challenged, when his assumptions were dissected, he lashed out reflexively every time. Given Hank’s last meltdown in the park, it demonstrates a pattern and is a motive he’d have before and after hearing Chase’s side of the story.

Hank did make his bed — and he crawled in and pulled the covers over his head where Chase was concerned. Hell, where his own situation is concerned for that matter.

He’s absolutely stuck, you’re right. He’s paralyzed by what happened that first night. It’s like he’s still holed up in the apartment waiting for Chase to come home and replaying the scenarios he imagined of Chase fucking another man over and over again. What he imagined was so much worse than the reality, but he can’t differentiate between the two.

The man needs a wake up call. If Chase’s explanation didn’t do the trick, then maybe his parting words — however poorly received — will pull Hank’s focus back to the present. Or even the future.

This most recent confrontation left them both shaken, that’s for sure. We won’t know how long Hank stood there on the pavement or what happened after that until next Monday . . . unless you take pity on us and post early?

Yes, it could be that simple. Jealousy can make us lash out, and Hank obviously doesn't like 'pretty boy' Dawson. It seems to me he sees him as a threat, which goes against his dismissive attitude. I would say your entire comment is right on the money. Both men are shaken... we know enough about Hank to know he has to be... but we don't know what he will do. That's for another day. :)  Thanks, buddy... this was good. :hug: 

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10 hours ago, Danners said:

You know, after digesting the comments about Hank and Chase’s mutual friends, I have to wonder how they’ll react to a relationship between Hank and Kevin. Other than possibly Carlos, I can’t imagine they’d see it as healthy. Or fair for that matter.

It’s only been maybe two months or so at this point, which is a pretty quick turnaround time after a breakup. The pair could be finding much needed comfort in one another’s arms but that alone isn’t a healthy baseline. They were both in the same boat as spurned lovers go, sure, but like Gary mentioned, you don’t poach your friend’s ex-boyfriend.

So, maybe there’s more to Hank’s isolation than just depression and/or Kevin’s influence. Yet another layer of scar tissue protecting Hank’s heart.

Or, more likely, this is me looking for more reasons not to disapprove of their relationship.

No matter what their friends think, there is no way that relationship, if it occurs, would be healthy. Maybe if it happened a year from now, but right on the heels of a breakup between two guys who everyone once thought were meant for each other? No way. 

I stand by my statement... poaching friends' ex boyfriends is like a cardinal sin. :yes:  You don't do it. :no:  That said, it doesn't mean it won't happen. 

I like how you aren't ready to give up on a Chase and Hank resolution... hopefully by the end of the story you will see the sense of it all. Human drama worth investing in, is messy in most instances. :(  :hug: 

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8 hours ago, Bft said:

Kevin reminds me of an old neighbour of ours, who also had issues with committing to marrying his girlfriend even though they had been engaged for a long time, Ben felt that because both his mother and sister’s marriage broke down that his would too eventually. The strange thing was that both him and his girlfriend lived together for 9 years they broke up and he moved out, but as they are both athletes and members of the same athletic group they saw each other from time to time at events, they got back together for about 18 months but have now split permanently, and have moved on with their own lives, both of them have bought their own home, have a new partner but still see the other at some events although she is a semi professional athlete competing in various marathons and triathlons, her new guy is a bit of a drip, it’s more of a sexual relationship than anything else as he has said that he doesn’t see them settling down with a family. Personally I think that she should find herself a new man that wants everything that she does as she keeps saying that her biological clock is ticking.

we have not met Ben’s new girlfriend but we are told that she is higher maintenance than the previous one was and she can be domineering, which is not good. 😒

Thanks for sharing this story, Bft. It illustrates well, how our past affects us. And sometimes, when we are at its (the past) mercy, we set ourselves up to fail. Sounds like that might be what your friends are doing. :(  I really appreciate the input, buddy... cheers... Gary.... :huh: 

8 hours ago, Bft said:

I think that Hank just did it to annoy Chase but Chase needs to let go of having any association with Hank and that also means Rex, after the way Hank has treated Chase he should cut al, ties with him and move on, Hank needs to rehome Rex as a large dog should not be cooped up in a flat, it’s not fair to him he should have a yard to run around. 

I believe Hank wanted to take Rex to the cottage mainly for the dog's enjoyment... but telling Chase the whole situation was lashing out at Chase. It wasn't necessary. 

As far as Rex being in an apartment, he is a rescue who has a good life, daily walks in the park, and he is loved. He has a full and varied life with lots of social contacts... and that's the most important thing... nothing worse than a dog who spends his life tied up in a backyard... just saying... :)  :hug: 

7 hours ago, Ivor Slipper said:

Thus far there has been zero evidence of any forgiveness from Hank even several weeks after the event. Indeed he appears to continue to want to rub Chase's nose into the mess. Any sensible person would have given up and walked away by now. The fact Chase hasn't must indicate either he really does love Hank, or he actually enjoys being hurt. Problem is that Hank can't accept the former and perhaps is now enjoying the latter.

Hey, Ivor! Hank is definitely lashing out. If he didn't care, he wouldn't be so mean, though. Maybe this was the final nail in the coffin for Chase. He deserves better... and while he has been punishing himself, I don't think he likes getting hurt. He blames himself for everything, but that HAS to stop if he has any chance at future happiness. Maybe Dawson can get through to him. Thanks for sharing your perspective, buddy... cheers... Gary.... :hug: 

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3 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

Yes!!! How will they react. My question is what is up with Carlos though. Every other of the friends have the decency to stay out of it, yet he is firmly in Hanks camp. unless he's got a thing for hank. One question in the back of my mind is, what is the difference between john/Kevin's breakup and Chase/Hanks? I mean John and Chase are the perceived cheaters, and yet everyone shunned John but are at least trying to remain neutral to Chase, with the exceptions of Carlos and Kevin. What did John do that made him persona non grata to everyone. Did anyone hear John's side? From what it sounds like they've heard Kevin's and decided to run with it. And maybe that's why theyre remaining neutral in this one they heard both sides but are refraining from shunning one over the other. Right now in this story though, Stacey is my hero. Her and Dawson are the only real friends Chase has, and it seems, Stacey is the only true friend Hank has. I mean she's actually contacted both unlike the other cowards.

Stacy and Chase are great friends, and it appears she is more or less a leader in their group. We don't know the full story of John and Kevin... we just know John broke Kevin's heart by cheating. His no longer being part of the group could be his own choice... we don't know for sure. Kevin apparently isolated himself more and more as time went by, so that is maybe a clue as to where he is at as well. I do suspect he was bitter. I don't know that the other friends are cowards... even though it would seem that way... I think they get all the information they need, from Stacy, and Trey for example, sent a message through her. So yeah, Stacy is my hero too. She has made sure Chase knows that everyone cares but want to stay out of it in the hopes Hank and Chase will resolve their issues. It's awful when we take sides and be vocal and then the couple gets back together. That can be really awkward... or worse. 

When we look at the whole picture, Chase seems to have more support than Hank does... he has Cindy, Stacy, Dr. Chorney, and now Dawson... because he has opened up. That's the key... it seems hank has only opened up to Kevin. :( 

Thanks, Wes. :hug: 


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