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No-Win Scenario


Thorn Wilde

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I'm in a situation where I feel like if I engage, I lose. No matter how I engage, the outcome will be the same. I feel like I'm being wilfully misunderstood. Like assumptions have been made about who and what I am, what I'm like, and no matter what I say or do, the people in question won't change their minds about me. And it makes me question everything. What if they're right? What if I'm the asshole here?

I've tried dialogue, but feel like I'm met by a brick wall, utterly unyielding. I've tried to just pretend like nothing, let things be, keep going on the same, but I inevitably end up in a situation where I say something and it's understood as me being a dick. And at that point, the only thing I feel like I can do is extract myself from the situation and leave entirely, for the sake of my own mental health. Because whatever I do it's wrong. I can behave exactly like everyone else and still I'm wrong. I emulate others, it's wrong. I'm myself, it's wrong. I say something, it's wrong. I shut up, it's wrong. I apologise, it's wrong. I defend myself, it's wrong. 

I cannot be right. I cannot win. And so I start to wonder, is everyone else lying? The ones who say they like me, care about me, are they making it all up? Are these people the only honest ones, the only ones who dare say to my face that I'm a terrible person? Who's right, here? Who's wrong? Is my brain lying to me again? 

I'm not responsible for other people's feelings. But I am responsible for my actions. If they've just misunderstood, just created an image of me that doesn't correspond with reality, then there's nothing I can do. But if it's really a question of my behaviour, or who I truly am, then I should try to change that and do better. What can I do? I feel like I'm going crazy, questioning and second-guessing and reexamining everything again and again and again. The prospect of interacting with the people in question makes me feel anxious and sick and scared. I shouldn't care what they think of me, but what if they're right? And round and round she goes.

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:hug:  I see you, Thorn, and I, for one, think you're a good, decent, and kind person who is both talented and thoughtful. That's my two cents, for what it's worth. :) 

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"What if they're right? What if I'm the asshole here?"

Huh?! What?!

"Because whatever I do it's wrong."

WTF?! No way!

"And so I start to wonder, is everyone else lying?"

Maybe not everyone. But, that doesn't mean everyone gets you.

"Is my brain lying to me again?"

I'm thinking, there's nothing wrong with your stupid brain (chuckles)... Elsewise??? Who the hell knows? We all convince ourselves of our own personal truths! Who in the hell has a right to judge when we're all doing the same thing? Even though these truths we tell ourselves do have limits based on reality this post doesn't seem to be what we are dealing with here.

"I'm not responsible for other people's feelings."

Exactamundo... within reason. You can't deliberately fuck people up without expecting recourse. Point in your favor: this is not what you do!

"But I am responsible for my actions."

Admirably said. Also, experience dictates that despite your personal ups and downs you are one of the most even keeled people on GA.

I don't think I need add anything else.

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Thanks, @Ron and @Headstall. I get these insecurities a lot, especially when I find myself in difficult social situations. Even when they're over, I can walk around feeling it for weeks. Anxiety sucks. It's good to feel like I have friends, so thank you. :hug: 

5 hours ago, Ron said:

We all convince ourselves of our own personal truths! Who in the hell has a right to judge when we're all doing the same thing? Even though these truths we tell ourselves do have limits based on reality this post doesn't seem to be what we are dealing with here.

I think you're right here, about truth. I always say, truth and fact is not the same thing. Truth is subjective. We make our own truths. Sometimes they're truths about ourselves, destructive ones. Hopefully, those truths can be unlearned. I know I'm trying.

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[Putting on my pretending-to-be-a-therapist hat.]

This sounds like your depression speaking.

[And if my pretending-to-be-a-therapist self were talking to me, there’d be references to my cognitive dissonance too.]

[I think it’s fitting that my pretend self is diagnosing myself.]

[Maybe you should ignore my non-sensical ramblings.]

[Especially because they’re enclosed by pretentious bracketing.]
 

;–)

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3 hours ago, droughtquake said:

[Putting on my pretending-to-be-a-therapist hat.]

This sounds like your depression speaking.

[And if my pretending-to-be-a-therapist self were talking to me, there’d be references to my cognitive dissonance too.]

[I think it’s fitting that my pretend self is diagnosing myself.]

[Maybe you should ignore my non-sensical ramblings.]

[Especially because they’re enclosed by pretentious bracketing.]
 

;–)

Depression is probably also involved, though I have these thoughts and feelings when I'm not depressed as well. Of course, even if I'm not depressed I usually still have anxiety, lol

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24 minutes ago, Thorn Wilde said:

Depression is probably also involved, though I have these thoughts and feelings when I'm not depressed as well. Of course, even if I'm not depressed I usually still have anxiety, lol

I laugh because I have been diagnosed with both also!
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4 hours ago, droughtquake said:

I laugh because I have been diagnosed with both also!
;–)

The heart is for solidarity, my friend.

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