Mac

"Janice, .. she didn’t do as well with the rest of our family. She was kind of flighty, and sometimes not the most stable and reliable person in the world."

Ha. The saga's early intro tells "The Schluters were the epitome of ‘old money’ in Claremont. Barry Schluter was a descendant of one of the city founders, served as the local judge, and owned a shitload of land in and around the city. The Schluters had a long history of serving in the military and in local government." Possibly inevitable that sons of such a family do lapse into uselessness, or whatnot. Aristocracy might be hereditary, but real talent are not that much inevitable to inherit. This makes me to have a useful idea: It is now the duty of Stefan to sire a son to continue this really aristocratic lineage. Stefan, the old homo, now that in 2004 he is about 60 years old, needs to contract a trophy beauty to produce him a son. The son needs to be born in 2005. They must baptize the boy as "Barron Schluter". Stef does not really need to touch the contracted trophy at all, because the seminal operation is to be made by a spoonlike instrument, the semen there chosen to produce a boy. Of course Stef marries the pregnant trophy of his, and soon after the birth, they divorce. This very cute story, of course, is intended to make the Melania - Donald operation a laughingstock. And to caricature the serial Trumpist divorces and trophies.

the damnable Alexandra Carmichael was no mother of Brad nor grandmother of Will. How on the earth Alexandra ever got rich? Now that I think more about this family I arrive at conclusion that Janice was a daughter (or stepdaughter) of a middling officer with family living in the naval station where Billy started. The 18-yo Janice obviously was one of those girls who do not keep their clothes on when a young man of 19 years is eager to get into her pants. In this Janice resembles her grandson Will a lot. Also Will is sexually prematuredly willing and likes young men eager to get into his pants. The difference between grandson Will and grandmother Janice is that Will does not get pregnant. Whereas Janice, in her mid-1950s environment, had to marry when pregnant (with Nick) and was not able (or willing) to abort.

Okay, it is this why Billy had to been of same age as JP. And Billy deceased at age of 26. Leaving a widow (Janice, née WHAT) and two biological children and one young stepson. Still, a rank-and-file submariner who started family at 19, tastes to me like a white trash. Although Billy was not a badly-dressing salesman... (whose life would have been likely spared to old age). How could Tonto ever have permitted such? How could the good motivator, JP, have allowed his foster cousin Billy to do that kind of lowly life, when there would have been available: college & career as military officer & life as small-town Claremont magnate & activities as public official and community organizer & various chairmanships... Billy's life seems a somewhat analogy of a Trumpian dumb who hates school... and ends up as a deplorable. Will, an avid student, is certainly not any sort of descendant of Billy Schluter. Brings me to assess whether Tonto's husband actually was a poor choice: not any good genes to continue. Both sons just were soldiers. And died young. Did not create careers nor passed any higher education. Schluter were not rich, but merely parasite of Tonto's wealth ? Was Barry a mere drone, sort of white trash in reality? Fortunately, JJ is a direct descendant of the late Tonto. Biologically. By the way, biologically Billy and JP are not related. They were merely fostered as social cousins. JP was not a biological nephew of Tonto Schluter née Crampton. For the simple reason of Marie Mrs Crampton bringing JP as Hendrickson cuckoo into her husband's Crampton nest.

Because Billy Schluter was born in 1936, biologically he could be yet fully alive. Mere 67 years old. Has Billy Schluter already died? When? Where? Or, is he alive and kicking. Possibly at Claremont? I think the chronology would ease somewhat if Billy Schluter was born in the early years of 1930s. (And had gone through college, before siring children -Nick- and before marrying Janice.) However, it might now be impossible to revise the birth year... Why did Billy sire his first child already at 19 ? and why did he marry at 19 or 20 ? Such gives an impression of being white trash. Not suitable social class context for Billy. If the family behaved like white trash, then no wonder that Bitty became an addict. Just like JD Vance's mother. --- One of the happy outcomes in this Crampton-Schluter family circle is: because of unfaithful conceptions of several children in all generations, they actually are not that much doing incest. The official family tree may give a display of plenty of incestuous sex. But, these persons usually are not biologically related, being usually only related by fostering. JP is not at all biologically related with Stefan. Will is not at all biologically related with his cousin John, nor with his cousine Marie the starfish.

surely, Will's paternal grandmother was the late Janice. Who was once an affaire of Mr Carmichael. The official Mrs Carmichael was the one who suffered in that situation - and surely was not Brad's mother. I have tried to find out what was Janice's background, for example her maiden name and where Janice grew up. (How Billy S found Janice to marry her?) I have not found any information about such matters. Probably Janice was a middle-class Yankee girl from a somewhat prosperous middle-class American family and born in late 1930s. Mother a housewife and father a badly-dressed salesman resembling Al Bundy. In the 1950s USA was a boring (Eisenhowerian) country, building up a vast network of 'modern' highways so Ford automobiles of middle-class American salesmen had infrastructure to drive from one motel to another. That was the young Janice's world. Possibly Janice's father was one of those roving salesmen, and Billy Schluter the bridegroom of Janice, was in process of being a young salesman driving A CAR, too.

Two male biological cousins who have lived as brothers all their young lives. They just better to reconcile themselves to the reality. They are not the first ever cousins in the world history who have lived in brother-like circumstances.

children tend to be totally internalizing the spoken context they live in, and children tend to be a bit dumb (= ignorant). For example, teenagers (who are no longer fully childish) then see things very black and white, until getting adults they see variety of greys. An uncle who is a family friend since the stone ages (having known even the grandparents and possibly some great-grandparent, too), do have a fuller picture of path-dependent things... And occasionally, happen to blurb some fact to a child who then starts to get curious about the real family history and about his (her) true parentage.

Seeing that Bitty was Jim Crampton's first cousin's daughter, and not really his niece, it is not called incest.

her name was Janice. suicided in 1968. But she was not a Crampton. She just came (in the mid-1950s) from somewhere unknown, to be wife of Billy Schluter.

However, is it actually thus: Will's paternal grandmother (née Crampton) is Jay's maternal grandmother? If so, then these two boys are first cousins.... and related by blood.

In narrated details about Kris' work and workplace, and skills for his work there actually already is testimony (written in this story) that Kris is fluent with German language, and that Kris uses German in some of his work. Possibly Kris understands the legal document's text well enough, but knows that it is a hoax. And that their judicial work is centered on presenting enough evidence of the correct genealogy and to demonstrate the hoax as forgeries.

"isn’t really a Prussian Prince, he’s actually the grandson of a Nazi spy from a peasant family": just perhaps, this (slander) turns out to be some disinformation from some camp, either from the DDR commie administration (to suppress the family's princely continuity) or from the embittered Nazi machinery of the about 1943-44 if the then prince, now residing in USA, stopped to serve as Nazi spy; or being slanderously something with similar effect. Intriguing to later read whether there actually ever existed such a fief (landed property) and whether the genuine Princely family continues.

well, the swampy Esterhazy at least have been cultured. As a contrary and positive phenomenon, compared with for example Donald Trump who is not cultured, instead being vulgar. Trump = white trash.

All the Italian gay boys that I ever met, have been quite eager to avail their anuses. (However, I suspect I have a biased sample: The Italian boys whom I have met....) Besides, something like over 90% of the genome of Italian boys comes from slaves of the ancient Romans - and the ancient Romans tended to keep slaves whose nature was to avail their sexual favors (other slaves did not generally get permitted to sire children, instead such slaves perushed soon under inhuman circumstances).... That Italians (since the Late Antiquity) are, for the most part, descended from slaves whose nations and tribes had lost their wars against Rome, is clearly evidenced by the fact that since the middle ages, Italians have (practically always) lost their military battles and their wars. The victorious Roman genome vanished to practical nothingness. Military losers are the ancestors of Italy.

cute story, finally with good fucking enjoyable. the name of the boy, in Italian, actually is: Raffaele. Not "Rafael". A slight pity that the cute boy is not availing HIS anus...

JJ.... such cutely. I am looking forward. that someday we will face the Princess Jay of Schulenberg.

we do not yet know who are the artists and athletes and such, in the past, that the Schulenberg princelings hosted in their (probably Baroque) palace... castrate singers? or young men from the circle of Frederick II the Great...

root title. this is a thing I felt immediately having something wrong. However, it took a while for me to consider what this is... The root title cannot easily be "Duke" von Schulenberg. In H Roman system, holder of duchy of S, will be Duke and bears such as honorific too. But, dukes of small domains are a veritable rarity there. Besides, already the count of Schulenberg has held the domain of Schulenberg, without being Duke. Even Fürst is, in german system, a bit lower than Herzog = Duke. And, Schulenberg is held by Prince of Schulenberg, without him being titled "Duke". so, the 'root' title is not "Duke" von Schulenberg. The concept here obviously attempts to capture something else than Duchy and Duke. And should probaböy find another word than "Duke"... the root presumably is the ownership, earlier the holdership, of the domain of Schulenberg. Earlier centuries, such domain is merely held by feudal right, as Fief, as vassal of the overlord (the overlord could be, e.g the Duke of Pomerania, or, the King of Germany aka HRE). Not technically owned (yet in those centuries), but held by vassal as fief granted by the overlord. Fiefs evolved as owned properties as development of the vanishing feudal system and the generalizing effect of 'capitalist' ownership to replace the 'ancien regime'-type feudal rights. So, in the 1900s, the Prince of Schulenberg already is treated as owner of the domain (formerly, fief) of Schulenberg - and they have had possibilities to sell parts of it to third parties. Therefore, my answer to the question “What’s a root title?” would be: the fief of Schulenberg. Not the "Duke von Schulenberg". And, the word 'title' comes here in its other meaning or connotation, "title to land". In other words, this title is not attachable as honorific to one's name, but it is a materiality in law which could be expressed in a document, property ownership record. Kris actually says something that expresses this: “That’s the title we got for the land we owned". my interpretation is that it means: title for the fief of Schulenberg. title for the domain of Schulenberg.

I believe that the Schulenberg family of Prussia would look askance at such upstarts as the Hungarian, non- Germanic, Esterhazy - the worst in Esterhazy line is they were not even medieval Barons but received such rank only in the 1500s, which is nouveau indeed Besides, as Schulenberg are of princely rank already during the reign of Joseph I, they naturally view with pity such noblemen whose princely title came from Joseph's little bro and successor, the Hispanic Carolus VI, so much time later. "...The Esterházys arose among the minor nobility of the northern part of the Kingdom of Hungary (today's southwest Slovakia), ... the name Zerházi (de Zerhásház / de Zyrház / de Zyrhas). Their first known ancestor was Mokud (Mocud) from the Salamon clan, who was a military serviceman and landowner in the Csallóköz region of Western Hungary (today Žitný ostrov in southwestern Slovakia), and Pristaldus, a judicial office-holder in the court of Béla III of Hungary. ....in 1539 the wealth of Ilona Bessenyei de Galántha.... Her son, Ferenc Esterházy (1533–1604) inherited the coat of arms and title of his mother and the full surname of the family became Eszterházy de Galántha, Galanta being a small town east of Bratislava (Hungarian: Pozsony, German: Pressburg), now capital of Slovakia. this Ferenc Zerházy (1563–1594), was elevated to the title of baron of Galántha and took the name Esterházy. the Esterházy family was consistently loyal to the Habsburg rulers. The Esterházys received the title of Graf (Count) in 1626, and the Forchtenstein line received the title of Fürst (Prince) from the Holy Roman Emperor in 1712" during the reign of Carolus VI ... My help in counting the generations is princes of Langenburg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenlohe-Langenburg and those of Leiningen. Both of which, genuine Germans, also, were upgraded to comital rank already in the Middle Ages. In these stories, Schulenberg is mentioned as nobility from the state of Prussia. This led me to expect Schulenberg domains are in the territory of the former DDR (= East Germany), the commie state which certainly confiscated all private properties. Because, in West Germany, all domains in principle stayed as property of their princely owners.

"have a crown?”: princes and dukes bear a coronet. “a mantle” ermines in cape fur... or something

nice history of title. If Kris is the 14th Fürst, then the princely (and ducal?) title got created, not in Middle Ages, but something around the year 1700. Perhaps it is created by his august majesty, Joseph I, Holy Roman Emperor. Joseph, as well as his dad and his younger bro, were emperors who made serious PR work to gain goodwill from other mighty potentates. The Russian Tsar Peter I's friend (and fuckee), Menshikov, received one of those Holy Roman princely titles in those (early 1700s) same days too - a diplomatic gesture of HREmperor to help the powerful Tsar, so the Tsar did not personally need to look like an overindulgent lover. Also Menshikov is grateful. In Middle Ages, this sort of landowners with a domain of merely several villages or so, did not yet get to become Prince. In those days, a small province, such as worth an English shire or an American county, is the usual requisite for princely title. However, it is perfectly plausible that a late-medieval Holy Roman Emperor ended up to erecting a baron, or barons (a few cousins sharing the same fief of some villages), of Schulenberg, to be Counts of Schulenberg, as a thank for some helpful action such as supporting the emperor in one of those civil wars in Germany. A count created in -say- 1703 as Fürst (so, born in about the 1650s), tends to have approx some 10 generations of direct descendants, to end up to a guy born in the 1970s. An ignorant someone could say that then the 1970s-born should be 11th Prince. However, this is generally not so, chiefly because a few times within 10 generations, a younger brother succeeds his elder brother, and/or other such things happen - thus some generation(s) do have more than one 'the nth Prince' in the lineage. (I am going to totally forget the relatively old and yet very extant family of counts von der Schulenburg in this case and context. Clearly they are a different family, from some other corner of Germany - and we see that the names do have the very real and important difference between -berg and -burg.) A sad consequence of the patriarchate-style usages of these old titles is the fact that JJ cannot (easily) obtain his own title by marrying Kris. By marriage, JJ cannot become another Prince of Schulenberg. But if JJ changes her gender officially to female, then by marriage she would be Fürstin von Schulenberg, Prinzessin von Schulenberg. No children ensue?

Such a cute testament Now, the King should create a marquessate (Brentwood) for George Granger, and create a Barony (or new viscountcy), named "of Haversham", to George with proviso that the new (viscountcy/barony) will be inherited by Alexander (and his tail male) upon the death of George, passing to George's other hers only if Alexander's male progeny line goes extinct. The newly added wealth is going to support easily several new peerages. I am also thinking that in due time, the young Elizabeth should marry Davina's son, in order to become Duchess, and to bring Hanoverian royal blood to the ducal branch of Suffolk.

the Prince Regent of Denmark and the King of Sweden are close kinsmen of King George III. As son of king George's late sister Caroline Mathilde, the Prince Regent of Denmark (Frederik) is king George's nephew. the King of Sweden, Gustav IV Adolph, is son of king George's first cousin, Sofia Magdalena (who is alive at this time). Gustav IV's grandmother, in other words, dowager queen Sofia Magdalena's mother, was the late queen Louise, one of paternal aunts of King George III, Louise being daughter of George II and queen Caroline.

Sadly, I see a grave planning problem in their plans as they are currently laid out. The very important thing as to English peerage law is that it should be arranged that the mariage takes place before the child be born. Otherwise, the child will never be entitled to be heir to peerages and noble rank. The wedding as late as in July is going to be at risky timing. It is early Winter now, and the child was already conceived sometime in the Autumn. Normal pregnancy is about 9.5 months. The child will be born sometime in June or July, if the gestation goes normally. But if the child happens to be born prematurely, say two months ahead, it is still the late Spring. I say that the wedding needs to be in March, at latest. This is already because of the legal need to ensure that the child (boy, hopefully) is born to the already married couple and not even a moment after the matrimony. Because of the English peerage law. Moreover, it will not be seemly, in aristocratic wedding with a hundred and more audience, that the bride displays to be in her last stages of pregnancy, i.e heavily pregnant and being waddling to the altar.