PrivateTim

Ummm, Chase Field is what,14 years old? Angel Stadium is one of the oldest in baseball. It opened in 1966. Despite a "renovation" in 1998, there is nothing they can really do to put lipstick on that pig. It needs to be blown up and replaced.

At this point in their relationship, Brad and Will, it isn't too different from my father and I. We were close through my freshman year and then when I started to drive as a soph all hell seemed to break loose as I became more independent. It wasn't all bad times, but it wasn't until I came home that first vacation in college for Thanksgiving that things seemed to have moved on to a better relationship. Brad will never be his mother, but I think sometimes kids who were brats grow up to be stricter with their kids wanting to keep them from "making the same mistakes".

I think that observation misses how different a teen can be at school with his peers and then at home. At points Will seems to think he is a senior already, but he isn't. And even when he IS a senior in high school, he will still have a lot of growing up to do.

Carl is at Stanfurd, he may be a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. Not even the football players there are stupid. I think Brad has a right to be frustrated with Will. Will has been given more freedom, latitude and advantages than most kids his age and yet he wants more. He's also been given more attention than a lot of kids get from their parents. He might feel neglected these last couple of months, but his life is nothing like Ryan's. I was hoping his exposure to Ryan and his family would lead him to see how great his family has been in comparison.

Well I was rather disappointed actually. I don't find the staff at the Ritz snooty at all, Wade would have known that when you stay at a Ritz you let the staff take your bags to the room and you tip them $10 or $20 (depending on how cute they are) and you try to look at bored as possible while doing it..... oh and you would wander down to Union Square not up Interesting set-up for the CO River trip.... Brad isn't getting it, Will isn't going to be relaxed on the trip and I hope we get to hear from Mary Ellen... maybe a pissed off phone call And okay, maybe I DID like the chapter a little but the staff at the Ritz really is nice...

Dang!

Bite your tongue! I LIKE the pace right now. If Arbour sped up the pace he might finish the CAP series one day and as far as I am concerned that just ain't happening. I want his arthritic fingers typing away from Shady Pines 30 years from now as CAP enters 2008......

Well my heart hardly bleeds for Will. I understand him, relate to him, but in the universe of kids who really have it tough, Will is not up there. His family is not in the 1% they in the 1% of the 1%. So if he thinks he's been ignored the last two months or six weeks, so what. We are only three months removed from Paris and the pole dance and kidnapping. Even though it has been a year since we read PMS, in CAP time it has only been three months and as recent as August they were hovering around Will, sending him to a shrink, etc. Wasn't there even a surf trip somewhere in there in the last three months CAP time? I do think he has partial justification to demand a little attention, but he also has that young teen, "the world is all about me" attitude that he needs to get over.

Dang! One's getting away! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUsMP6ww98

I think he is just busy.......

I think we will see a different Will after the CO River trip. In fact I think the story will pivot after the CO River trip. I like seeing old names too. We see a lot of Stef and I suspect we are going to see a bit of JP shortly. It was nice to see Isidore mentioned, I always adored her. John has been conspicuously absent or maybe around, just not mentioned. I also look forward to another Will and Shane interaction. I think it could be a good thing for both of them, not sex, just a friendship... not that a steamy scene wouldn't be welcome, but that isn't why I think they could be good for each other. Shane needs gay friends and Will needs gay friends his age, people he can be friends with, his age without the pressures of sex.

JJ hasn't exhibited any out of control behaviors to worry about. He doesn't do the things Will does. I am sure if he started to pull the crap Will does, he'd get extra scrutiny too and unlike Pat who I think would cover for Will with Brad, I suspect Michael would rat out JJ in a second to brown nose to Brad.

I kind of wondered if in Wade's plans was using the old slum buildings for missions..... but then again I also thought about Kimpton who takes old hotels and turns them into luxury boutiques.... I am wondering what is up with Brad and Robbie.... it sounds like they have more plans then just NOT going to St Barts, it sounds like they have active plans to do something else maybe with the family. Maybe a family retreat to Colorado or someplace to remove the distractions and have a real pow wow. I don't think the fight is going on too long, it is pretty realistic. I battled with my father my entire sophomore year and part of my junior year. I lucked out with my teen, but then circumstances were different. I like the play with Shane Jackson, it would be nice for Will to know some gay teens and nice for Shane to get some support or comfort too. I am looking forward to the CO river trip and hope we get to see Alister again, Will's buds from junior high and especially what is going to happen with Ryan and Will in those cool desert nights

Has anyone seen this? I'm Christian Unless You're Gay Rather inspiring.

Hey, dat's what I said! From my review..... There are always two sides to every story, everyone is pissed off at Robbie for not taking Will's call and everyone, including and especially Will, are assuming it was to spite Will. Has no one ever missed a cell phone call before and not known it? This story is in 2000, cell phones were not as sophisticated then as they are now. There were very few multi-line screens on cell phones back then. As a result texting was not ubiquitous yet and seeing missed calls wasn't as easy. I still don't like the idea of Kristin and Gathan back together. It just makes no sense to have a girlfriend in Ohio when you are a freshman in college in Palo Alto. I also agree about the remake of Freaky Friday, the Jodie Foster version was much better.

Moving Columbus to Quebec makes more sense. The NHL wants to keep trying to develop and engage the west coast and the south/southwest.

I am confused. Why was Jack in LA?? There are always two sides to every story, everyone is pissed off at Robbie for not taking Will's call and everyone, including and especially Will, are assuming it was to spite Will. Has no one ever missed a cell phone call before and not known it? This story is in 2000, cell phones were not as sophisticated then as they are now. There were very few multi-line screens on cell phones back then. As a result texting was not ubiquitous yet and seeing missed calls wasn't as easy. I still don't like the idea of Kristin and Gathan back together. It just makes no sense to have a girlfriend in Ohio when you are a freshman in college in Palo Alto.

Yeah, they do seem to be slow learners for two very smart guys.

Actually, I'd love to go back..... I'd love to know what DID go down when they found out about Pat, how they found out, what they did, who they called, etc....

I think the point you miss is that if Will had sex with Pat it would not have been "abuse". Brad and Robbie know Will well enough and know how strong willed he is that abuse was not going to be an issue. Had it been JJ, that might have been a different story. You also can not state "no truly responsible caretaker or parent would have behaved as Brad and Robbie did" because truly responsible caretakers and parents behave all kinds of ways. Some truly responsible caretakers and parents might have had their 14 year old in therapy after naked pole dancing and ejaculation in gay night club, some truly responsible caretakers and parents might have had their 14 year old in therapy after a kidnapping and near rape. Some truly responsible caretakers and parents might certainly have ignored their precocious 14 year old while they figured out how to deal with the situation. We still have no idea what conversations Brad and Robbie had together, had with Stef and JP, had with their lawyers, had with the police or had with anyone.. Brad and Robbie are not your typical, naive parents. They have their faults, I really object to their pot smoking around the kids and their apparent lack or concern that the kids smoke pot too, but that part is not atypical unfortunately. But they are much more attuned to Will's sexuality than most parents are to their 14 year olds sexuality and who have no idea what they are up to with their cellphones, webcams, chat rooms, etc. Maybe because you are older you don't get what is going on with the youth.

Like I said.... a weak year in the NCAA, a dearth of great teams.

I've Got a Little list As some days may happen That a victim must be found I've got a little list I've got a little list Of society offenders Who might well be underground And who never would be missed They never would be missed There's weightlifters and bodybuilders People of that sort Bank robbers who retire to Spain The minute they get caught Bishops who don't believe in God Chief constables who do All people who host chat shows And the guests what's on them too And customs men who fumbling through your underwear insist I don't think they'd be missed I'm sure they'd not be missed He's got them on the list He's got them on the list And they’d none of them be missed They’d none of them be missed There's the people with pretentious names Like Justin, Trish, and Rolf And the gynecologist I've got him on the list All muggers, joggers, buggers, floggers People who play golf They never would be missed They never would be missed All waitresses who make you wait Accountants of all kinds And actresses who kiss and tell And wiggle their behinds And pouncy little singers who to entertain us try By dressing up like women and by singing far too high And who on close observance must be either stoned or pissed I don't think they'd be missed I'm sure they not be missed He's got them on the list He's got them on the list And they’d none of them be missed And none of them be missed There's the beggars who write letters From the inland revenue And the gossip columnist I've got him on the list All critics and comedians and opera singers too They’d none of them be missed They’d none of them be missed All traffic wardens, bankers, Men who sell Venetian blinds All advertising chappies And Australians of all kinds And nasty little editors whose papers are the pits Who fill their rags with gossip And with huge and floppy... ritz. And girls who sell the stories Of the Tories they have kissed But you must have got the gist 'Cause none of them be missed You may put them on the list You may put them on the list And they’d none of them be missed They’d none of them be missed

Meh.... it was a weak year in mens basketball.

And to me it rang incredibly true that they completely ignored a fourteen year old who may have been sexually involved with an adult caretaker because knowing how sexually precocious Will is, they might not have been ready to broach the subject. This isn't a case of typical parents who suddenly discover their 14 year old son has a sexual appetite (even though fathers were one 14 year old boys) and think maybe a nasty old man robbed him of his childhood, innocence, blah blah blah. They are parents who know of his sexual involvement with older people and might have been avoiding him until they figured out what to do about the situation.

Hunh... is it me or was that a really short chapter? I'm just sayin'..... I am thinking JT doesn't turn out to be a bad guy, just an abused kid acting out. Nice chapter, even if was small, smalls not always bad.....