Celethiel

*Is suddenly reminded of his experience of a drunken ride of hell, and shudders*

wells an archeleolist's job is examine what is there and draw conclusions about what is no longer there, the people, the cargo of a ship... and so on. after all wine does not survive, nor do olives and yet archelogists know a certian Greek ship that they are survieing carried that cargo.

wells put it this way... it's being paid for by a museum more or less thusly... the finding pays for it weather treasure laden or not... treasure laden only gets the big headlines... and i may add, if it's archelogists they don't really keep treasure for themselves do they unlike say some of the famous wrecks where treasure hunters get horribly rich or get it taken by the local government...

Something interesting for you all http://news.yahoo.com/team-examining-gulf-shipwreck-finds-2-other-wrecks-011429341.html GALVESTON, Texas (AP) — Marine archaeologists made a thrilling discovery this week while examining a well-preserved shipwreck deep in the Gulf of Mexico — two other sunken vessels that likely went down with it during an early 19th century storm. Much isn't known about the ships, including the flag or flags they sailed under and the year they sank about 170 miles southeast of Galveston. They came to rest 4,363 feet, or nearly three-quarters of a mile, below the surface, making them the deepest Gulf or North American shipwrecks to have been systematically investigated by archaeologists, the researchers said. "What you're going to see and hear I hope will blow your mind. Because it has ours," lead investigator Fritz Hanselmann told reporters at a Thursday news conference in which the team revealed its initial findings. "We went out with a lot of questions and we returned with even more. The big question we're all asking is: What is the shipwreck? And the answer is we still don't know," said Hanselmann, a researcher from Texas State University in San Marcos' Meadows Center for Water and the Environment. During eight days of exploration that ended Wednesday, the scientists used remote-controlled machines to recover more than 60 artifacts from the initial shipwreck site, including musket parts, ceramic cups and dishes, liquor bottles, clothing and even a toothbrush. The artifacts, including china from Britain, ceramics from Mexico and at least one musket from Canada, will help researchers determine the ships' histories, Hanselmann said. "Nationalities, cultures, all collide in these shipwrecks. We hope to return in the future next year with more work," he said. Although they weren't allowed to retrieve artifacts from the two new sites under the terms of their agreement to examine the initial one, the researchers took thousands of photos and closely examined the wreckage of all three ships, which came to rest within five miles of one another. Two of the ships were carrying similar items, and researchers believe they may have been privateers, or armed ships that governments would hire, Hanselmann said. The third vessel was loaded with hides and large bricks of tallow, suggesting that it may have been a prize seized by the privateers. The artifacts are headed for preservation work at a Texas A&M University research facility. "For now, there's lot of conjecture, lots of hypotheses," said Jim Delgado, the director of the Maritime Heritage Program for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. "We may have answered some questions, but we have a large number of new questions. But that's archaeology." Delgado said the ships likely went down during the first two decades of the 1800s, which was a time of great upheaval in the Gulf region and in the New World, in general. "Empires were falling, Spain was losing its grip, France was selling what it has, Mexico becomes independent, Texas independent, Latin America becomes independent and the U.S. is beginning to make a foothold in the Gulf," he said. "So these wrecks are all tied to that, we are sure." It's likely each ship was carrying 50 to 60 men and that none of them survived. Among the wreckage were telescopes and other navigational tools that survivors likely wouldn't have left behind if they could have helped it, the researchers said. Delgado said the ship the team set out to examine was armed with six cannons and may have had two masts. Undersea images show the outline of a copper-clad, 84-foot-long by 26-foot-wide wooden hull. A Shell Oil Co. survey crew notified federal Interior Department officials in 2011 that its sonar had detected something resembling a shipwreck. It also detected some other material. "Like a medical ultrasound, interpreting can be difficult," said Jack Irion, of the federal Bureau of Ocean Energy Management. "This case is the same way. You can't tell if it's an historic shipwreck or just a pile of stuff." A year later, a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration vessel examining seafloor habitat and naturally occurring gas seepage used a remote-controlled vehicle to briefly examine the wreck. Besides determining the ship's dimensions, the examination showed it to be undisturbed and likely from the early 19th century. That ship has been dubbed the "Monterrey Shipwreck," adopting the name Shell had proposed for its development site. Researchers have examined several other historically significant Gulf shipwrecks in recent years. In 1995, after a more than decade-long hunt, Texas Historical Commission archaeologists found one of famed French explorer La Salle's vessels in a coastal bay between Galveston and Corpus Christi. The remains of the LaBelle, which went down in a storm in 1686, have been recovered and are undergoing an unusual freeze-drying treatment at Texas A&M. The ship is to be reconstructed next year and become a centerpiece of the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum in Austin. Earlier this year, researchers used special 3-D imagery to map the remains of the USS Hatteras, which was the only U.S. Navy ship sunk in the Gulf of Mexico in combat during the Civil War. The 210-foot iron-hulled ship went down in 1863 about 20 miles off the Galveston coast during a run-in with a Confederate raiding vessel. Researchers believe that heavy storms in recent years shifted the sea floor sand and exposed the wreckage, which rests 57 feet below the surface.

yes it does! it makes you both a novelty and a freak!... also makes you damn sexy actually I didn't like it very much on how many of these sports act about gays...

*snickers* funny

I am not sure how much I want to see this.... the first one was pretty bad for cruelty malice and so on.... remember in the books a number of her family dies.....

why haven't they built these yet they've had plenty of time....

I also read somewhere that there was a study that showed males are less likely to get lost than females.... so it's not just stubornness it's "how the hell did i get lost... it's not possible!! I ain't asking directions cuz there is no way i got lost.... is there... "

no one can own the moon according to our own treaties.... but then how often do we break our treaties.... also I'd like to see the U.S. back said park up... talk about a fool and his money that would be a lot of money... Btw did the treaty say the entire solar body or any part of it, cuz look what the U.S. and others did to Antartica.... we own part of it as does three or more other nations.... (that's how colonization usually works in piecemeal...) I don't think Anyone is going to even try to colonize any place within the next 50 years..... rich companies or not...

I wouldn't want to drive in any city.... no matter the size, Montana's cities are small but.... hectic...however... I hear there are roads in India and/or pakistan that are pretty bad... dirt and mud one way cliff roads and then there is Alaska's Ice Roads....(not icey roads... roads made of ice )

here i thought the moons of pluto had names that went way back... and i thought one was Charon, and i don't remember the other....

i decided to review all of the story at once, on this last scene. It was a beatiful story, it makes me want my boyfriend, and makes me wish humans had a bond like the Carthera. Also makes me want a kitty boy There was really very little surprising in this story, although there are some few minor surprises and many unexplained things. I hope to continue to enjoy your Carthera series

magic Kitt magic

oh i must share this... it's funny.... Lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkkhbDUfGrs

Well it just shows that closeness to a person can blind you to their problems and even their needs....

it was an overdose of Heroine as I recall hearing on the news.... What is sad is that you could see he was not happy and yet no one was there to stop him from falling...

well I am gay and I gave blood.... although I did qualify under it since i could answer truthfully to everyone of the questions... ie did you have sex with a guy in the last six months... etc...

i don't know that i ever saw a runaway train, but I saw one on fire once, in fact it passed right underneath where I was walking....

I know Krista.

well to me, the look on his face in what little pictures i've seen. Did not look happy... even his smiles weren't that genuine.

would someone explain to me about him, besides that he died from a drug overdose and was on glee?

well it's a sad poem and as poems that I have read go it's not bad... although, (only saying this to be helpful) you might want to stay with a single theme when writing it... like the rhyming if you want to rhyme every 2 lines it should be throughout the poem not just in the middle and so on... It does however do what poems are supposed to do which is get the feelings across, which is good, you want to make your readers feel what you feel when you wrote it or what you were trying to get them to feel otherwise it's a waste of time... and you did it

that's ok i saw bottled water with barbituates in it...

here is the question though, if you lived in the time period Aladin is based in and a princess would your opinions be the same?