Daisy

I don't know where I stand on the muslim clothing for women. (is it called a burka??) its supposedly for the womens protection, no? because men have no self control... So its actually as one muslim man in Egypt told me (if I remember its a little while ago) liberating for the women. this is off-topic abit. I don't know what to think about it really, especially since I don't know that much about the muslim faith. but, this developed when I went to Turkey when I was 13/14 and the men there were disgusting and very inappropriate in the street where we were. ever since I have been uncomfortable especially going to muslim countries. I've also been warned as usual whenever I go to such places that some of the men automatically think british girls are easy, they are gagging for it, and so they use it as an excuse to be inappropriate and rude, so yes don't wear such clothes, where your shoulders are bare etc etc. but even then I've felt uncomfortable. it could have been I was just in a strange country so as outsiders people are going to stare at you. but, and maybe it is a mental thing on my part, I feel uncomfortable talking to muslim men, especially in their own countries, as I always thinking what are they thinking of me, or about me, and can I behave in the same way as I usually do. and then the women as well, do they look down on me for not covering all of my body. I don't know... it's just how I think. but then I became great friends with an Iranian guy last summer who isnt muslim but all his family are, some of whom I've met and they were fine. celia

In, i think saudi arabia, a women who is raped is automatically guilty. there was a case where a women was married. she was raped. she was then acused of adultery. she was then beaten and sent to jail for this adultery. even if the girl was single they'd be done for sleeping with someone outside wedlock and the rapist goes free. its disgusting!! celia

also thought, SnowPatrol's latest album reminds me of my brother and being in france for xmas and new year 06/07, and driving to skiing everyday for 10 days.

I do have lots of songs that remind me of 'genres' in my life, but I'm hopeless at remembering them until they are on or my friends point them out. but there is one that shocked me last year and im never going to forget it. it was patience by take that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF3DqGwIi18 this is an odd story, err. I was driving my mum to be sectioned for severe depression just after christmas, the radio was on and this popular song came on and suddenly the words hit me (before then I really didnt take notice of lyrics, they just washed over me) and it was like my mum was speaking to me. oh well, I was haunted by that song for a little while and used to play it all the time, but now I don't and it doesnt affect me anywhere near as much, but it'll forever remind me of the last year. things have improved lots since. actually I think the killers are one of the theme tunes to my first year at uni, they played sooo much then. celia

Congrats!!! Welldone for having the courage to answer the question honestly! I hope things will be easier for you from now on....now that you can begin to live more freely . Tiger, at least you've had the courage to tell as well, i havent done that, and don't worry about venting .

if you think thats bad, the toilets in eastern europe in some places were worse.

I hope that worked. well thats a basic one, but thats the sort of thing they sell in our card shops. I once saw his and his towels, mugs etc.

aw, well glad you had a nice family day out . edit to add: its ok to loose your rag sometimes, some people deserve it. i saw this group who were up by the railing watching the parade. a mother had sent her 2 kids to try and get to the front so they could see and these people just ignored them even though they'd noticed the 2 lil boys, so eventually the mother took them and put one of them on her shoulders before leaving not long after as the parade finished.

oh well glad you had a good time, and tables it does help if you live nearby so popping down is easy. am thinking back to that thread on pride parades, and there were plenty of children there during the day with parents helping them see. but i only saw a bit of the parade so no idea if it was explicit in places or not. hope tomorrows good. im heading down to the mathew st festival in liverpool instead for abit of free live music. celia

Did you have a good time? I saw the end of the parade on the sat, was very very busy!! some of my friends were there in the evening and said it was awesome. but yeah, the drugs, were everywhere as predicted. hope you had fun. Celia

yep have these in the uk too! just like you will find his and his, hers and hers, alongside all the his and hers stuff in shops now too. celia

yep take care Kevin like all the others said. something simular happened with one of my friends a few days ago. she's just turned 22 and I asked her if she was happy, she replied she felt like she should be accomplishing lots more, like she's very behind. she felt she should be doing something with her life like starting a family even though she doesnt want one (and is the last person I thought would say that). I feel like that whenever I see some young star of somekind in the news or somewhere, and think, omg they're my age, or as is now happening more, they're younger than me, but I block that out and am rational about what it was possible for me to achieve in the time I've had otherwise I'd freeze. goodluck with everything, its been a pleasure chatting with you in the forums, and it sounds like to me that your making progress. celia

I was amused by it which was why I posted it. she agrees with you and in the interview said people just needed to get a sense of humour, nor was she trying to do either of those things. i was bored so thats why i researched what her parents had supposedly done in retaliation. what i was more amused about really was how most articles just reported on her parents comments they didnt like the song and were shamed, without mentioning anything else the parents also said of sticking by her etc etc. journalists can be really bad. i find it hard to understand really how they can report stuff, especially in the uk tabloids, which is deliberatley a half story and sensasionalist, and maybe not in this case but can destroy public reputations and lives, but they do it anyway, if not to cause that. so yeah, i agree with your gripe against the media. celia

yeah the songs catchy. it seems to be everywhere at the mo. I read that some gay groups didnt like the song either, saying it was just titalizing lesbianism.

I found that programme as well. Well I think its the same one. But too expensive and not quite the right courses on offer, but its a great idea. i liked best the opportunities you have while in the ports. goodluck if you ever decide to go for it. celia

hello all. since I've been away this song by kate perry has been a massive hit worldwide. one of my friends told me yesterday that there has been quite abit of controversy about it to do with her parents being evangelical christians. I checked and they havent disowned her like my friend suggested, but still are disapproving. what do you think about the song? and the message that some are taking offense to. here are 2 articles, one is an interview with the singer and the other is a gossip page but it has some comments from her parents. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/aug/10/music.popandrock http://www.fashion.ie/aggregator/gossip/99...issed-girl-song Celia

ooo yeah your right, thats how the others had done it, Id forgotten about that! yeah, at least 3 people, most likely more aquaintances, I know still have no preference but have a name. or even just 'in a relationship' if they don't want to reveal further. i think thats the best way of doing any preference, leave it blank then put in a person when the time comes. before they changed the privacy settings on a uni network you could search for everyone who had their settings on one or the other, but suppose now you can't really do that which is a good thing. goodluck with it, celia

Some of my friends just don't put a sex they prefer on facebook they leave it blank, but they're still out to everyone that matters or in fact most people they meet. then the few that have changed it from that to something specific as they have come out en-mass, it was still quiet. if you disable the news feed, then only the people who get to know are those that check your page and notice that its different. i think it just depends on how safe where you live is. if its what you want go for it. congrats on what you've done so far, celia

I personally don't kiss for a greeting, but some people do and it usually catches me off guard like other people have said. I hug my close friends alot of the time but not kiss on the cheek. but there are some from my uni who kiss as a greeting, and for them its courteous between semi friends, and I come away looking either rude or as if Ive been brought up without manners, or thats how they make me feel alittle. it was generally the posher lot who did it as a matter of course, so makes me think they've been brought up that way. the other time i was caught completely of guard was by someone I dated very briefly who wanted a kiss on both cheeks greeting, and I was feeling awkward already so yep fumbled it. other than that, some of my mums friends who've known me since i grew up expect a kiss whenever I see them. so its a mixed thing, usually not but I'm getting more used to it, before it was abit daunting. think its practice. celia

Thanks. Thats why I've ultimatley decided not to bother with the day. I called the lady (who was actually very nice on the phone (but she is a highly skilled sales person)) and explained I hadnt been entirely truthfull about my plans and that she could call me in a year. I'm actually quite glad this happened because its made it clear that the masters (which isnt ever likely to make me lots of money) is what I really want to do, I'm not ready to give up so easily or be distracted from what I really love and want to spend my life doing. I need to get on with finding new accomodation instead. glad you sound like you've found your ideal vocation, celia

:)yeah .....thanks. . Yep, Ive already thought of what you just typed. i know from friends how hard they can be, especially your 1st time so thought I might as well get my 1st time out of the way for the future. but now its getting closer its just seeming like a really really hard afternoons work (well, it did at the begining too). even if it will benefit me in the long run. so yep, Im running scared. I may decide differently in the morn, but this sales presentation on myself (to a sales team) is abit daunting without a proper script, or even a basic one. so its my fault I may miss out on an opportunity. (another really bad quality, procrasination when under pressure!!) I'll try and get up really early and see if I get inspiration. congrats on your A, am sure it was deserved! goodluck with the next one. once a week is easy peasssy. anyway, thanks for the pep talk celia

Thanks, I'll try and add some tomorrow that I may have more spare time than I thought. celia

like the attitide. Ive heard of Staples, they have them in the uk too. Think ive decided that since I don't actually want the damn job (or jobs) Im just going to ring the lady early in the morn and cancel (I had only being filling another cancellation anyway). just typical of me to get myself into these things! I decided a few days ago to do a masters starting late sept and sent an email confirming it. then friday afternoon i get this call from a top recruitment agency who'd gotten my name from a graduate fair i once went to, so I went along with the call to see what she wanted, didnt mention the masters when she asked if i had any plans, chatted for awhile, did a surprise telephone interview and bam had a place on this assessment day. thought it may be good practise, but oh well, im simply not prepared, and i don't.. want.. the job. ive learnt stuff about myself while trying to write this presentation and tailoring my CV so its not a complete waste (I hope). ooh well, I'll see what I think in the morn, but its too late really, I havent got time to practise even a mediocore presentation (its in the afternoon) and don't want to look like a complete fool. right, need to be decisive -- im cancelling. argh, thats my worst personal trait. thanks for the support regardless, hows your courses going? Celia

hello all, just wanted to moan for a little bit, so thought I'd start a new topic to indulge myself. I hate interviews. I have one tomorrow and its making me procrasinate way more than I really should. Its not just a simple interview, its an assessment day which includes, group exercises, informal interviews, psychometric tests, and a 3min 'creative' presentation on why they should hire me. so in all its going to be hell, especially if I don't get on with actually writing the damn thing. my main motto, 'fail to prepare, prepare to fail' is looking more and more likely if I don't just get on with it. oh well, think I'm going to leave it there and actually go do something rather than continue trawling this site trying to find something interesting and worthy of distracting me . but what have some people's worst and best interviews/selection processes been? any major (and funny, now that you look back ) gaffes or tales? celia