BeaStKid

2600....!!

Same here.... My-er for me...

does 'going out' annoy anyone? Like... I'm going out with this boy. or Would you like to go out with me? or Do you know that he is going around with that guy??

it was a good chapter. Jerry goofed up big time. His letter will not be received by Helen until the band reaches LA. That means that Adam's absence may be noticed. Also, I think Eric got overboard in his stupidity this time. I mean, if he was so sure that J/S is up to something, shouldn't he have been more careful with the paparazzi? Also, the way he was jumping to go to Toowoomba was a bit unnerving for me. I'm glad Brandon didn't agree. Well, things are certainly starting to escalate from here... Can't wait to see (read?) where this takes us.... BeaStKid

Dang! Then I should definitely stop!

yup they do...

This is a good thread... Well, let me see... I lived in a hostel and had random encounters with boys there. (never sex, though, just mutual j/o) So, we were going at it this morning and his brother walks in. Luckily, we were doing it under the sheets so the brother didn't catch on (he later told me that he did). In another incident, I had one of my classmate's (he was a day scholar and not a hostler) pants down in my room when the hostel guard banged on the door. Luckily, I always kept my room locked from inside. Damn! did we dress fast. Welcome to GA!! and your first post! your incident was hilarious...

Yes, India follows Adult Franchise and 18 is the age where you get the right to vote and are considered as an adult. For marriage, though, it is 21 for men and 18 for women. P.S I've sent you the file...

Congos to you!!

Thanks a ton, Tris... they were really helpful...

Well, it has been a long tour.

As a matter of fact, even I am thinking of doing the same. Shifting to a country that is more acceptable to us. For studies..

Many Many Happy Returns of the Day, dude!! BeaStKid

The main opposition towards not letting Section 377 being struck down is from the Govt. for these very reasons. The reply to this by the main writ petitioner, Naz Foundation, was that there should be a comprehensive child abuse law that covers everything and not just penetrative sex as it has been proven that children can be abused in a lot of ways- physically, emotionally, psychologically, sexually, financially. At the moment, I know of no law that protects the Indian children against these abuses. There is nothing like the Social Services in India and the adoption procedure is tenuous and long. Further, due to another law, the name of which I cannot remember, Gay rights groups are unable to reach out to minors (below 18). Essentially, that law means that a minor cannot take decisions on his own. Therefore, if any gay rights activists even talks to a child in distress or intervenes on the child's behalf, this law can be used to prosecute the activist as he/she 'may' be misleading the 'minor'. :wacko: AIDS rights groups are lobbying with Gay Rights groups in this regard. Some Child rights groups are lobbying to get a comprehensive law as well, so that bodes well for us. Essentially, yes. But there are other laws and sections that a person can be booked under, many of which I am not aware of. Usually, I read in newspapers that a man gets 7-8 years for raping a child. So, for molestation, the convict gets even less according to this. I think it depends on the extent of the accused's crime. I am not sure about this. Thanks. Yeah, even I cannot read it in one sitting. Too distressing and lots of facts/figures. I'll send it to you if you want.

:king: :king: CONGRATS KEVIN :king: :king: My heartiest congratulations to Kevin (AFriendlyFace) for joining the Quad-Mi Club. He is the third member after CJames and Graeme to achieve this feat. Graeme! You have a mate in your castle, mate! Seriously though, Kevin's posts are one of the most thought provoking ones. They provide an insight into the psyche of this wonderful person and tell us exactly how beautiful his soul is. His informative (and lengthy ) posts are always a pleasure to read!! His advice is top of the world as well. I always make sure to read his and Graeme's advice on the issues discussed here as I'm sure theirs is the best. So, without much further ado, CONGRATS my dear friend. You are an asset to this community and I am proud to know you as a friend. BeaStKid

As a matter of fact, no. There are no other laws that are there to prosecute sexual abuse of a male child. And don't even get me started on the female aspect of it. There are so many confusing and contradictory laws for female child abuse that it makes my head swim. Also, this raises another serious issue. Since this law is just for 'carnal intercourse', what about other forms of child sexual abuse??? Yes, when the case of homosexuality is involved, you are booked for that under the concerned section and the law states an imprisonment for upto 10 years... Indeed it is. As if that ain't enough, there's this sort of discrimination in jobs and helathcare sector as well. No problem. If anyone wants to know more, I have a 62 page project done on the issues and stigmas associated with Alternative Sexuality (India). Just send me a PM and I'll send you the file.

Hmmm... according to my research project on this topic, prosecution is rare, but there have been incidents where gay couples have been taken into custody (Lucknow Case) and where gay rights activists have been taken into custody (again another Lucknow Case). The penalties are usually none in the above cases as the gay rights groups usually intervene. Where they don't, harrassment is the main form of punishment. Also, this law is used primarily to prosecute child sexual abuse (boys), where, if convicted, one may face a sentence of 10 years or so. (As usually, these rapists kill the boy after the act.) No, India is a democracy and even though laws such as these exist, there is a proper legal system that is followed. That depends upon the Police. Usually they use this law for extortion and sexual pleasure. Ignoring and being dropped happens only in the case of high-profile cases as the one you mention below. Exactly. He is a prince. Plus this law is not against homosexuals, per se. This law makes homosexual (read GAY) sex illegal. So, usually the police uses this law for blackmail saying, "Give us XYZ or we'll book you under this section and prove that you have indulged in these acts." No sweat dude... It is always a pleasure answering questions. Given that I ask many. There's a disclaimer, though. All these answers are based on my personal knowledge and hence could be wrong. I would suggest doing research on your own as well in addition to this as well. BeaStKid

Yes Kevin. This is indeed quite bad. What is more heartening is that this draconian law criminalizes acts of gay sex only, as it has the clause of 'carnal intercourse'. On a lighter note, this law also makes fellatio, oral, anal, condoms illegal (the clause of 'unnatural and not meant for procreation') http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_377_o...dian_Penal_Code

exactly!!

My PC is on a hiatus... Sorry, but all my messenger and Ventrilo related activity is through my PC...

TOI is one of the leading English newspapers and it has known to take a liberal stand on gay rights. On numerous occasions TOI has taken our side in this. Debates regarding Section 377 and gay rights have been going on for years now. Many news channels that host talk shows/debates have discussed this topic in detail. As Such, the law in question is under a PIL (Public Interest Litigation) that is challenging its validity and asking for this law to be read down. No, TOI is an English newspaper and it doesn't come in any other language. This article was printed in the Soul Curry section, that means that it came out in the National Edition. I certainly hope it is. The PIL is pending in the Delhi High Court for the past 7 years. (It was filed in 2001)

the tap water is not that dirty here.... I can drink from it once in a while, but not always.

i like water...

Love me for who I am Link I am 21. I am an engineering student. And I am a gay. I am writing this article because I am angry, frustrated and feel unbearably suffocated in my closet. I realised I was gay by the time I was 14. No, I never had any 'bad experience' in my childhood that made me 'turn gay'. No uncle or elder cousin ever molested me. I am gay because I believe I was born gay. God or nature, whatever one believes in, made me what I am. Just as some people are blonde or left-handed, sexual orientation is also a feature that is decided biologically. Modern technology can determine the sexual orientation of a child even before he is born. [...] I applaud this young guy's bravery and my heart goes out tom him, for he is in a plight similar to millions of gay men in India. This is a poignant article and is very well written. BeaStKid