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Endings - 8. Chapter 8 Explanations

Was it that bad?

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Explanations

 

 

“Your dog is awesome… really friendly.”

“Thanks. He’s a rescue from Northern Canada… Yukon is what we were told when he was released to us.”

“Ah, Yukon,” Dawson said wistfully. “Maybe he came from Brent’s area. He looks like a little husky.”

“With floppy ears and shepherd coloring, yeah.” Chase took a sip of his iced coffee, thinking about how sad Dawson’s story had been. Sometimes, people missed their chance because of stupid circumstances, and it sucked… especially when they were in an environment they didn’t feel safe in, like locker rooms filled with bigoted macho bullshit. He’d been lucky in many regards, but he understood enough to know why both guys had kept their secrets. If only Dawson and Brent had kept in touch. “Thanks for this… it’s good.”

“You’re welcome. You can buy on the next ride.”

Chase shot him a smile, feeling confident there would be a next time for them. “For sure.”

They sat in silence, side by side on one of the picnic tables bordering the busy parking lot. Chase was enjoying the coolness the early evening brought, but dreading telling Dawson his own story. He cleared his throat and twisted, setting his half-empty drink on the table. “Hank thinks I cheated on him.”

Dawson’s head swiveled toward him. “Did you?”

“Not in the way he thinks, but yeah, I kissed someone.”

“Shit happens, man. Did you tell him about it?”

“Didn’t need to. He saw it. This guy I was dancing with, and maybe even flirting with… he followed me into the bathroom… into a stall when I was taking a leak, and it happened. I don’t remember much, but I know I felt… like… overpowered by the whole thing… and… I was trying to get out of it without any drama, because I didn’t want it….”

“Ah, now it makes sense, what I heard. So, what happened?”

Chase took another sip before answering. “Like I said, Hank saw the whole thing. He showed up at “Endings” out of the blue, just in time to see me fucking up my entire life… and his.”

Endings?”

“Yeah… it’s a popular dance bar on the weekends.”

“Stupid name for a bar.”

Chase snorted. “Kind of prophetic, it turns out. It used to be called “Happy Endings” when it opened—which the owners probably thought was clever—but a storm shorted out the blue “Happy” section of the neon sign on the west side of the building, and now only the red “Endings” lights up, on the south side.”

“Oh, so it wrapped around a corner?”

“Exactly… probably because of the windows on the top level. Don’t know why they never fixed it—guess it’s totally fucked—but everyone calls it “Endings” now anyway. You’ve never seen it?”

Dawson shook his head. “Not a bar person, but I thought I knew all the ones on Church Street.”

“Yeah, it’s not on Church. You have to go east on Jarvis a couple of blocks.” Chase stared at his hands, avoiding the gaze he knew was on him. For the first time, he wondered just how Hank knew he’d been there. Had he taken a guess, or had he searched all the other bars for him first? The thought made him feel even more ashamed.

“So, what did Hank do when he saw you and… the guy?”

“He left.”

“He didn’t say anything?”

Chase shook his head. “I’d already hurt him bad, and I guess he saw all he needed to.”

“How—”

“I turned down his proposal earlier that night. He made a special dinner for us, and then he gave me a rose as he knelt down on one knee. I… I couldn’t speak at first, and he asked me again… he kept talking, saying we could pick out rings together… and I could pick the spot… and the date… and then he asked me what was wrong. He… I can still picture how he looked when I finally found my voice and said I couldn’t marry him. It was awful… I got freaked out and… and I left. Just like that, I fucking left. I left him there… I stood up, dropped the rose, and left. Who the hell does that?”

“I don’t know what to say, man, but… hey, you must have had your reasons.”

Chase tried to quell the effects of the horrible memory, gritting his teeth in determination not to get emotional. “I…I did, and I figured them out, but that doesn’t help me now. He’s convinced I actually fucked that guy.”

“Why would he think you—”

“Because I didn’t go home for five hours after he saw me.”

“So? What does that have to do with it?”

Chase met his gaze. “Thanks, Dawson, for your support, but you must see his point. I was wrapped up in what I was feeling… not what he was going through, and I didn’t even think of how much time had passed. That was selfish. For five hours he was going crazy, wondering where I was… after what he’d seen. I just found out he came back to the bar again, not long after he left. I wasn’t there, and, according to him, neither was that guy, so he put two and two together, and got five.”

“But you didn’t, right?”

“See… it makes you wonder, doesn’t it? It makes everyone wonder. No, I didn’t. The thing is, how do I get him to believe me? So many times I was going to call him that night, but I chickened out… mistake after mistake after fucking mistake.”

“I wasn’t wondering… and you can’t give up, for his sake and yours.”

“I’ve tried, but it’s no use. I blew it.”

“There must be a way. Why did he think I was the one from the bar?”

“Your hair and height apparently, and your scruff.” He studied his concerned friend’s face, but it didn’t trigger any memory. “Your hair is similar, I think. Other than dark hair, I don’t recall much about the guy… I think he was heavier than you, though… there wasn’t much room in… there.”

“Were you drunk?”

Chase nodded, his prior anger replaced by intense shame. What right did he have to be pissed at Hank? “I wasn’t falling-down drunk, but I sure wasn’t thinking straight.”

“Hey, we’ve all been there.”

“Not Hank.”

“Never?”

Chase shook his head. “He doesn’t think much of drinking.”

“Okay… well, he sure looked upset, and that has to mean something.”

“Yeah… it means he hates me.”

“I doubt it’s that simple, not if he proposed to you. He needs to know the truth.”

“He saw the truth,” Chase said morosely, letting his guard down as his eyes watered.

“Give him time, man.”

“You don’t know him. He’ll never forgive what I did, and I have to accept that. Kevin is a better fit for him anyway.”

“Who’s Kevin?”

“Just an old friend I saw Hank with on Saturday. They looked good together… happy… until they saw me.”

“And you think—”

“I don’t want to think anymore. I just want to go home.”

 

Weeks passed, and Chase slowly adapted. He continued to see his doctor, and with each session, he came away a little lighter, better armed against the darkness, and carrying more clarity. Except for their previous appointment when, while he was on his way out the door, Dr. Chorney commented that he thought Hank would appreciate knowing the man Chase was becoming. When he asked what his therapist meant, the answer confused him even more. ‘You stand your ground now. It’s an admirable quality.’ He’d smiled an enigmatic smile, and said no more. Chase would have to wait.

He’d left confused about why Hank would appreciate that he stood his ground, whatever that meant, and why Dr. Chorney bring him up in such a cryptic way. It had to mean something, though. The doctor was an expert at throwing him off kilter and making him think. By the next morning, he’d concluded the doctor was trying to build up his confidence as he worked at moving on with his life. Fair enough. If nothing else, it was a stamp of approval.

Rex was adapting well. Chase now had him regularly, sometimes for days at a time. All he had to do was text Hank and then meet him in front of his building at a specified time, and do the same thing to return him. They greeted one another, even made small talk a few lines at a time, but there were boundaries neither one crossed. Anything personal was off-limits. It was sad as hell, and it had been ages since Hank’s dazzling smile made an appearance in his presence. His beautiful, expressive eyes were always shuttered now, giving little away.

Chase tried not to dwell on their new situation too much. At times he thought it was ridiculous to the point of silly—other times it made him angry at how Hank had thrown them away—but most times he just felt numb, and took this new reality in stride. At least Rex seemed happy. Having him at the condo was a godsend, and many an evening was spent on the rug in front of the TV, cuddling with his black and tan comforter, once the dog been worn out for the day.

Dawson, living right across the road, often came over for supper, or just a beer or two. Other times, Chase would drop by his place. The small backyard, shared with the basement tenant, was a nice place to relax, and had a kick-ass barbecue. And of course they biked together almost daily.

Their friendship was comfortable… they seemed to click on so many levels. There were times, though, he felt the other man staring at him, and he suspected there was interest there… a little anyway… or maybe it was just loneliness. Regardless, as much as he liked him, he couldn’t bring himself to invite anything more than friendship. Dr. Chorney told him he would get there, with someone, but there was no timetable he knew of, and would offer no advice other than to be careful with his heart.

He was on his way over to pick up Rex on a Thursday evening, anxious to see him after a tough day at work, and he pulled up to the entrance right on time. Surprisingly, no animal or person was waiting for him. Hank was always punctual, and he’d responded to his text in the affirmative, thirty minutes earlier. It was no big deal, so he pulled into one of the few parking spots available along the front of the building. Getting out of his car, he leaned against the back of it, and waited.

After a few minutes, he sent off a text to say he was there, but it went unanswered, and it wasn’t until ten minutes later Hank appeared at the entry… alone.

Chase pushed away from the back of his vehicle. “Hey, where’s Rex?”

“Sorry. Change of plans.”

“Why? Is he okay?”

“Yeah, he’s fine. I’m going on a trip tomorrow morning, to Kevin’s dad’s cottage, and it’s a good place for him to just be a dog. You don’t mind, do you?”

Kevin again. Annoyance surged, but he tamped it down. “No, not at all. He’ll have fun, but why didn’t you just tell me that earlier?”

“Sorry, I just got off the phone with Kevin. It was a spur of the moment decision.”

“Okay, no problem, and say hi to Kevin’s dad for me, will you? He’s a cool guy.” He turned to leave when Hank responded.

“I won’t be seeing him, but I’ll tell Kev to pass it along—Gerry’s in the states for a couple of weeks, visiting family.”

Kev. His annoyance heightened. “I see…so it’s just you and him going?”

Hank nodded, meeting his gaze briefly as he did. “See you later.”

“Hank?” he called to the man’s retreating back.

Hank did a half turn. “Yeah?”

“Can we talk?”

“Sorry, I can’t now. I have a lot to do before we leave.” When he turned away again, Chase exploded with anger.

“You’re a fucking coward,” he said loudly, looking at Hank with disgust. He was deliberately issuing a challenge, knowing Hank would hate that.

“Excuse me?”

“I said you’re a coward. You claimed you wanted to be friends, but you’ve put me off since you said it, and you can’t even face me. You owe me some respect at least, don’t you think?”

“Owe you? You’re kidding, right? I don’t owe you a goddam thing,” he spat out with his own sudden anger.

“You sure as fuck do.” Chase took a couple of steps closer, and so did Hank, stepping off the curb onto the driveway.

“Of all the gall… I wasn’t the one who fucked things up between us, or are you forgetting that?”

“No, you didn’t, not initially, but you were damn quick to walk away.” Bullseye! He’d scored a hit that had Hank sputtering.

“Jesus… I can’t believe you… what the fuck did you expect? I… no… look… no… this is getting us nowhere.”

“And there you go again. Run, Hank, run. It’s okay—Kevin’s a better choice for you anyway. Wait… no… scratch that. I’m the better choice, but all you see is your mom when you look at me.”

“How dare you! This has nothing to do with that woman so leave her the hell out of it!”

“Oh… struck a nerve, did I? Doesn’t it, though? You are so full of shit. Your mom was a cheater who destroyed your family—and your dad—and I get it, but don’t fucking paint me with that brush. It’s not fair, and the Hank I used to know would have realized that!” He’d gotten his wish, because Hank was now seething.

“You want to talk about what isn’t fair? Let me see… okay, that would be seeing your boyfriend, who just turned down your proposal with no fucking explanation whatsoever, making out with some random guy in a sleazy bathroom stall, and then staying out half the night without a fucking phone call. Don’t talk to me about fair, you sonofabitch!”

“Hey, no problem here,” he said, holding his hands up in supplication. “We both agree I fucked up, but so did you.”

Hank sputtered again, a thunderous expression clouding his face. “How in blazes did I fuck up?”

“By closing shop and running, and you’re still doing it. People make mistakes, Hank… that’s life, but you wouldn’t even let me explain, and that wasn’t fair… not to me or not to you.”

“Christ, you’re unbelievable. Okay, you want to explain? Go ahead then, explain, if you can.”

“Oh, I can, and I will. Yes, you asked me to marry you, and yes I turned you down, but do you know what I was thinking of?”

“No clue,” Hank answered, spitting the words out.

“Exactly my point! Shouldn’t you have wanted to know?”

“I had a few other things on my mind, so excuse me,” he answered sarcastically.

“Okay, at first, but since? Really? You didn’t want to hear why? I don’t get that.”

“Of course you don’t. You didn’t get your heart ripped out of your chest. You didn’t see what I saw, and you weren’t waiting for your boyfriend to come home, picturing him fucking someone else the whole goddam time. So forgive me if I didn’t want to hear any contrived excuses for something inexcusable.”

“Okay, some of what you say is true, and I’ve already apologized for being the world’s biggest idiot, for saying no to your proposal, for not thinking rationally after you left… for drinking too much… for everything… but you’re wrong about me not getting my heart ripped out. I’m sorry, Hank, but my heart was broken too. If that’s what you wanted, you sure as hell achieved it.”

Hank gave a derisive snort, but kept his mouth shut while he glared at Chase.

“All right. This is where we’re at then, but I’ll say my piece before I go. When you proposed, all I could think of was my mom. I had this overwhelming feeling I couldn’t explain at the time, not even to myself, but I can now. It was that I didn’t deserve to be happy when she was dead and buried. Six months should have been enough time to get past losing her, but it wasn’t—not for me—not when it came to a wedding ceremony she wouldn’t get to see or be a part of. I’m not going to apologize for feeling that way—no fucking way. I didn’t handle my mom’s illness well in the past, but I’m better now, and I’m proud of how far I’ve come.”

Chase took a deep breath to steady himself. “I experienced this weird mess of emotions when you proposed, but I didn’t understand them, especially while you were staring at me and waiting for an answer… I panicked, Hank. I could hardly fucking breathe—that’s the truth—and I felt an anxiety attack coming on, so I took off because I didn’t know what to say after I said I couldn’t marry you. I… I didn’t know why those words left my mouth… but they did… and I didn’t know how to take them back.

“It took a while to sort through everything, but I figured most of it out by myself, the night you kept watch over me, and I really thought you would want to listen… but even now, after all this time, you don’t give a damn. I’m a victim of survivor’s guilt, according to Dr. Chorney. Look it up if you can be bothered.” Chase took another deep breath, but his strength didn’t desert him.

“I wanted to marry you, Hank… I did, and I’m sorry… you have to know that. I didn’t have any doubts once I calmed down, but I didn’t think I deserved you either. I know you scoffed when I said it before, but I knew I’d been a burden. I was scared and I was stupid and I was ashamed—and I just wanted to forget. So, I drank and I danced, and I’m sure I led that guy on—not intentionally—but what you saw was all that was ever going to happen. I wished I had been aggressive and pushed him away, but I was trying to avoid a big scene, and I thought it must have been my fault he thought he could follow me. I was never good at confrontation….” Feeling drained, he waited for Hank to respond. He didn’t have to wait long.

“It’s a damn good story, Chase. How long did it take you to come up with it?”

The angry glint he saw pissed him off. “Fuck you, Hank. I know who I am, but apparently you don’t. Believe me, don’t believe me, but you should have given us a chance before you latched on to Kevin. I didn’t latch onto anyone.”

“Yeah right! What about pretty boy Dawson?”

“We’re just friends.”

“Uh huh, sure. You’re just a fucking angel, aren’t you?”

“No, I’m not, and I’ve never said I was. I’ve made mistakes and I own them… you should own yours.”

“I do.”

Right. So are you and Kevin official?”

Hank’s hesitation gave him his answer. “Not that it’s any of your business, but no.”

“Seriously?”

“Yes, seriously! I don’t need to explain myself to you, but that’s what this weekend is about. We’re going to decide where we go from—”

“You’re going to fuck, you mean.” Chase said, his heart sinking. “Congratulations, Hank. I hope he loves you as much as I did.” He turned away, but quickly turned back. “I dragged you through a lot of crap when I couldn’t handle my shit, and I thank you for putting up with me, but I was wrong about not deserving you. I would have been there for you, past or future, if the situation was reversed and you were the one struggling.”

“I know that,” Hank snapped, but some of the previous derision had left his voice.

“Do you? Then how could you give me up so easily?”

“Because this is something different… you crossed a line, Chase, and you walked away from me… you ran, more like it, so don’t say something so ridiculous. I did not give you up.”

“Yes, Hank… you did, and you can’t even own it. At least now we know where we stand, right?” Hank didn’t answer, and Chase, resigned to the fact their conversation had put further distance between them, sighed before getting into his SUV and driving away. Hank was still standing on the pavement as he pulled out onto the road.

 

“What’s wrong?”

“Nothing. Got a beer?”

“Sure. Come in. Where’s Rex… thought you were picking him up?”

“So did I.” Following behind Dawson, he put his hand on his shoulder, effectively turning him around. Dawson peered curiously at him. Chase swallowed. “Can I… would you mind if I kissed you?”

“You want to kiss me?”

Chase nodded.

“Why? I mean, I wouldn’t mind, but… what’s going on here?”

“It’s important.”

“All right,” Dawson said, drawing the words out.

Chase took that for a yes. Before he could change his mind, he leaned forward, lightly touching the man’s lips with his own. Pulling slightly back, he stared at his friend’s handsome face. His eyes were closed and his lips were parted. What the fuck was he doing?

Dawson’s face inched closer, the invitation clear, and Chase kissed him again, this time with more pressure. As far as kisses went, it was good—sweet, tender—there was caring there. Chase pulled back again, and watched as Dawson’s eyes opened. For what seemed like an eternity, they stared at one another.

“Not such a good idea?”

Chase shook his head slowly. “Shit… sorry… I shouldn’t have… I don’t want to drag you into something that—”

“Don’t worry about me. Let me get that beer and we can go outside and sit. And you, mister, can tell me what is going on in that pretty little head of yours.”

“Can I have a raincheck? I think I need to be alone.”

Dawson stopped and turned around. “Was the kiss that bad?” He was smiling, and Chase forced himself to return it.

He shook his head. “No, definitely not, but….”

“I’m not Hank.”

“It… it felt like I was cheating.”

“Again, you mean.”

“What?”

“Like at the bar… you need to let that go. Look, stop being so hard on yourself. A kiss is just a kiss, and you are not a cheater. Life goes on.”

“Tell that to the man I just went off on. I did tell him that, but he doesn’t agree.”

“Oh… that bad?”

“Pretty bad.”

“Sorry.”

“No, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have done this… come here and….”

“Kiss me? Stop. You haven’t been listening. You didn’t take advantage of me, and you sure as hell didn’t cheat on anyone. You think I don’t know where your heart is? Now, do you want that beer or not? I won’t let you kiss me again, I promise.”

His grin was contagious, and Chase snorted. “Was it that bad for you?”

“Hell no, but it’s been so long I might not be the best judge,” he said with genuine humor, and Chase immediately loosened up.

“Okay… I’ll have that beer.”

“Coming right up. So, why no Rex? I was looking forward to seeing him.”

“He’s going away to a cottage for the weekend, with Hank and Kevin.”

Dawson stopped at the fridge door and turned. “Just the three of them?”

“Yup. This is the weekend they’re going to fuck.”

“He said that?” Dawson’s eyebrows shot up toward his hairline.

“No, not in so many words, but he said they were going to make some decisions on where they were, officially, and he didn’t deny it.”

“Fuck”—he handed Chase his beer—“good thing I bought another twelve-pack. I think we’re going to need it. And if that runs out, I’ve got wine.”

 

 

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5 hours ago, BigBen said:

 

As Chase points out, Hank is actually acting like a coward.  Hank has been making unilateral decisions in order to maintain some sense of control--from deciding what he will and will not believe, deciding that his relationship with Chase is over, being quick to walk away, his insistence that there is "no excuse for the inexcusable," even to deciding to take Rex on a trip without consulting--in fact, in no sense has he allowed himself to confront his feelings about Chase except to beat Chase up with them.  It's really too bad that Chase was unable to articulate his feelings at the time of the proposal, but I wonder if the "no" might have precluded Hank from hearing him out, even if he had stayed instead of cutting and running.

I don't believe that Hank and Kevin aren't already having sex.  It's pretty clear that Hank considers the relationship with Chase to be already over, so there's nothing to stop him.  He's already defined kissing someone else as "cheating," so if he's been kissing Kevin, it's because he has ended things with Chase in his mind, which makes it not cheating.

I'm really proud of Chase for standing up for himself, and of Dawson for being there but not taking advantage.  I hope the kiss has clarified Chase's feelings about both Hank and Dawson.  It's clear he's not ready to give up on Hank just yet, and his concern for not leading Dawson on is greatly to his credit.  He has handled himself really well in this chapter.  I like how he was firm with Hank, yet avoided being vituperative or abusive.

Ben! Dude! This is so perceptive and on the money! It's easy to see how invested you are in the story... and you're seeing it pretty much the way I am. Hank is scared to death to let Chase back in. He said the proposal 'no' was no big deal, but I don't believe that for a second. That was the slap that reverberates still, and started the doubts that are compounding daily.

I don't think Kevin and Hank are having sex either, but really, what does hank have to lose now... he just burned what was possibly the last bridge. :( 

I'm glad you're proud of Chase. I think we got to see what Dr. Chorney meant by his comment. :) 

Really appreciate the astute comment, buddy... cheers... G   :hug:

Edit: Ooops... read this wrong. I thought you said you thought Kevin and Hank weren't having sex. My bad. But it doesn't change my response. Hank has nothing to lose in going that next step with Kevin... not where he and Chase are concerned... well... he still has stuff to lose, but I think he will see it as they are done like dinner... if that is what he's considering. Cheers!

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4 hours ago, Danners said:

I’d agree except it goes against everything we know about Hank’s character so far. His mom’s indiscretions tore his family apart, so cheating was never an option for him. Also why his reaction to Chase’s kiss was completely blown out of proportion.

Hank blinded himself to Chase’s insecurities while giving in to his own. He knew it was too soon to propose and now that we know some of the details of said proposal, it sounds like he bombarded Chase with choices he wasn’t ready to make. 

I know Hank said he knows Chase wasn't ready... that it was too soon to propose, but I don't buy it. I think it was a blow he still feels.

As far as the first part... I agree totally. Hank would never cheat... and if he did, it would likely screw him up for good. :unsure: 

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4 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

But shouldn't they have at least checked on them? They knew chase had depression and haven't bothered to even see about him. In all honesty none of the people are friends in my book. Yes chase did wrong but he owned up to it. Honestly I'd love to see Stacey take them to task.

Ok so I went back to the chapter with Stacey and it seems only one couples loyalty is actually divided. Trey and Carlos. Carlos seems to be on Hanks side, whereas everyone else just want to be friends with both. But yes Hank has isolated himself

You're right that they should have checked on Chase, but I believe they did, through Stacy and Don. If they are anything like my friends, they would find out what they needed to. :) 

Yeah, Wes, Carlos is the one holdout... are there issues there? 

And I'm glad you mention Hank's isolation. That's what you do when you are depressed, often shrinking your social circle drastically. To me, that's worrisome. :unsure2: 

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I have to admit it was a chore getting through all the comments to this point, but doing so opened a few new avenues of consideration.  Some of the twists and turns and motivations attributed to both sides are positively byzantine, and while they may be true, doubt remains thanks to the old application of Occan's Razor.  Are these men so full of loathing for one another that they would construct elaborate citadels to oppose one another?
I may not like Hank at the moment for dismissing Chase's reasoning, but it fits with his past experiences of betrayal by those he loved.  Love is blind, but what does that say of Hate--equally blind or focussed laser-sharp?  I'll add this: Chase has advanced to seeing the world in shades of color as we all did in the 60s, while Hank is stuck in the black and white era of the 50s.  It's a huge difference, and I can't help but think of the Calvin & Hobbes comic where the father tells the boy the world was all black and white until the 60s when it turned to color, and the mom yelled at him for messing up their hyper-imaginative son's mind more than it already was....
All the speculation is intriguing, but it's just that--Gary isn't telling us the answer like any good writer holds things in reserve.  Just as the characters are making assumptions, so Gary is meting out just enough for us to do the same.
Huge props to Gary for drawing us into this rocky affair, and now I'm going to try to ease my headache by a little nap.
I think this might be your most provocative work to date, my dear G-Man.

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3 minutes ago, Headstall said:

You're right that they should have checked on Chase, but I believe they did, through Stacy and Don. If they are anything like my friends, they would find out what they needed to. :) 

Yeah, Wes, Carlos is the one holdout... are there issues there? 

And I'm glad you mention Hank's isolation. That's what you do when you are depressed, often shrinking your social circle drastically. To me, that's worrisome. :unsure2: 

Preaching to the choir about depression. That's one reason why I really behind chase so much. I can identify with him. It's been just over a year since my mom died and there are days where I just don't think I should be happy. That's what really ticked me off about Hanks reply when he said how long did it take for you to come up with that. But now I'm curious as to why Carlos is the holdout. 

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4 hours ago, spikey582 said:

Am I the only one who’s cheering on Hank going away with Kevin so Chase can finally move on?  My sympathy for Hank died last chapter, I'm at a point where I’m loving Chase’s development and think he could probably do better than Hank.  This chapter was a great read, but for me it’s only solidifying how I already feel.  Not every relationship is meant to last forever.  I don’t feel like Chase & Hank were meant to last.  
 

The only downside to this is if Gary has a reconciliation planned for them.  I’ve made up my mind, and it’s going to be hard for me to overlook this kind of stuff.  Sometimes you can’t come back from what you do.

Well, this is positive in it's own way. I am definitely cheering along with you for Chase to get to a better place. I do, though, worry about Hank. No doubt Chase could do better than the Hank we've been seeing... but we have to see what Chase does. You're right that not every relationship lasts... at this point, even a friendship is far-fetched, and that is a shame. Still, what matters most is being happy with yourself, and Chase appears to have advanced in that regard. 

You stick to your guns, buddy... don't worry about what Gary does... he usually doesn't have a clue anyway. :P  

Thanks, spikey... as always, love hearing your thoughts. :hug: 

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4 minutes ago, ColumbusGuy said:

I have to admit it was a chore getting through all the comments to this point, but doing so opened a few new avenues of consideration.  Some of the twists and turns and motivations attributed to both sides are positively byzantine, and while they may be true, doubt remains thanks to the old application of Occan's Razor.  Are these men so full of loathing for one another that they would construct elaborate citadels to oppose one another?
I may not like Hank at the moment for dismissing Chase's reasoning, but it fits with his past experiences of betrayal by those he loved.  Love is blind, but what does that say of Hate--equally blind or focussed laser-sharp?  I'll add this: Chase has advanced to seeing the world in shades of color as we all did in the 60s, while Hank is stuck in the black and white era of the 50s.  It's a huge difference, and I can't help but think of the Calvin & Hobbes comic where the father tells the boy the world was all black and white until the 60s when it turned to color, and the mom yelled at him for messing up their hyper-imaginative son's mind more than it already was....
All the speculation is intriguing, but it's just that--Gary isn't telling us the answer like any good writer holds things in reserve.  Just as the characters are making assumptions, so Gary is meting out just enough for us to do the same.
Huge props to Gary for drawing us into this rocky affair, and now I'm going to try to ease my headache by a little nap.
I think this might be your most provocative work to date, my dear G-Man.

I agree totally with that. I don't think be ever commented on a story that wasn't mine multiple times like I have this one.

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4 hours ago, Danners said:

See, that’s where we disagree.

Hank talks a big game but his actions and reactions speak of a certain level of hesitation. Every time he claims his relationship with Chase is over, I think he’s trying to convince himself it’s true. The same goes for being unable to forgive him. If he truly considered it was over between them, he wouldn’t be as contemptuous of a potential relationship between Chase and Dawson.

Who knows, maybe Hank agreed to join Kevin at the cottage to finally prove to himself, once and for all, that he’s moved on. It’ll certainly be the final nail in the coffin of his relationship with Chase. 

Can't argue with any of this, buddy. Is Hank challenging himself to move on?  If he does take that step with Kevin, as you say, it would likely be the final nail. :(  :hug: 

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4 hours ago, BigBen said:

 I think we're going to see quite a bit more back-and-forth before Gary winds this up.  You just know he's not going to make this easy on us! 😃

Hank has already declared that he and Chase are done, but whether he's going to wise up and start dealing with his shit is another question.  He was great with Chase as long as he was the strong one and Chase was weak and needy, but now that Chase is getting his feet under him, Hank has found someone new to need him:  Kevin, who's having a terrible time recovering from his breakup, bless his heart.  So Hank gets to be the strong one in this relationship, too.

And as with so many other issues, it is clear that Hank's monomania about cheaters is probably as strong as it is because he feels the urge himself, whether he's ever acted on it or not.  (Just like rabid homophobes who harbor secret gay feelings, amiright?)

Moi? I'm just an innocent writer... I would never try to make my readers suffer... sorry... forgot what we were taking about. :P 

Lol. Bless his heart. :lmao:  I think your point has merit, but I won't paint Hank as controlling (And I know you're not doing that either)... needing to be needed, though... yeah, I think that is accurate. 

However, Hank's aversion to cheating and cheaters seems ingrained, and I doubt he harbors the opposite. That would be against the Hank I know.  Now. homophobes? ... I definitely see your point. :yes:  Yousright! :)  :hug: 

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4 hours ago, FanLit said:

If Hank was tempted to cheat with Kevin, that might have prompted the proposal to Chase-since he is so averse to the mere idea of cheating, committing to his relationship on a more permanent level might have been a way to shut his attraction down.

There is something to Kevin being the only one Hank turned to when this happened and I don’t think it’s the being cheated on angle anymore.

I know I might be saying “po-tah-to” when it’s really “potato” but the Kevin angle really puts a different spin on things for me; Then again, this could all be rebound for Hank, which of course carries its own set of problems.

Hey, FanLit. Personally, I take the Hank Chase knew before all this happened, at face value. I think his proposal was absolutely genuine, and the fact he showed up at the bar... and even came back after what he saw... tells us just how much he loves Chase. I know I wouldn't have gone back that second time. Unfortunately, it cemented the wrong ideas in his mind. 

We already know Hank and Kevin were close before, so whoever reached out to who, it was likely innocent on Hank's part. I can't speak for Kevin... maybe he had a crush. How it is now, though, seems to be much different. I get all the frustration with Hank, but I have to say he wasn't an asshole... but now he's acting like one. I think you are right about Kevin being a rebound for Hank, and that has little chance of ending well. It does happen, though. :huh:  :hug:  

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5 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

See I agree with everything except the sex part. But at the same time I think what if they did have sex and Kevin wants more but Hank doesn't know what he wants. Which brings me back to having Rex at the cabin as a connection to Chase. If he sees that connection he'll think twice about moving forward with Kevin. And frankly I think if they did have sex Chase would actually be the better man and listen to Hanks reasoning behind screwing kevin

Yup, yup, and yup. Good points, Wes. Especially that Chase would be more forgiving than Hank is proving to be. Chase is growing... Hank is spinning... or is that spiraling. :hug: 

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5 hours ago, mayday said:

I did not see this at all, but it sounds so convincing and obvious now that you point it out.

It does make a ton of sense. :yes:  

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you know i cant wait until Chase's dad returns home. for some reason i think he may be the only one who could make Hank see the light. now whether Chase would welcome that help from dad is another story. has Cindy tried talking to Hank?

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5 hours ago, Danners said:

Eh, I’m selfish in that I hope Hank and Chase work out their differences and end up together — if not right away, then later in life. They both thought they found the perfect partner in the other, never able to recognize their faults. Once they have — and I hope they will — they’ll be able to appreciate each other as real people with real flaws and real issues instead of the idealized archetypes of the steadfast protector and his fragile prince. 

Yeah, that's what's so hard. When we hear how much Hank was there for Chase, and how much love he showed, and being inside Chases's head and knowing how much he loves Hank. And you're not wrong that there was a relationship dynamic caused by circumstance, and they had roles that shouldn't have defined them. Endings are hard, not just for these two, but for us as well. We see what was, what could have been, and what should have been. Mistakes compounded, and far-reaching effects from the past... it's all such a shame. We all have flaws... it's the common ground where we learn to overcome. Right now, there is no common ground, and there is no future in sight. Not together. I understand the hope, buddy... I really do. :hug: 

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5 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

So I'm not the only one who hates Hank but still hopes they end up together?!?

I think readers are angry and frustrated, but there are many who can't let go of a happy ending. It's human nature... and hope is what keeps us going on the darkest of days... hope for ourselves and hope for others. :hug: 

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5 hours ago, Danners said:

I don’t hate Hank; it’s his choices so far that I hate. What I feel for Hank is disappointment more than anything else, disappointment and a little pity. 

That's fair. I am worried for Hank. As I've said before, he didn't ask for this, but he hasn't handled it well. At the beginning, he seemed reasonable, hurt, but reasonable... but now we've seen all the cracks. Yeah, I pity him too. :hug: 

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5 hours ago, Wesley8890 said:

Oh damn I'm not mad I'm dissapointed. That's always worse.

Nothing was worse than hearing my mom say she was disappointed in me. It only happened once, and I deserved it, but it was devastating. Yeah, disappointment is worse. :( 

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5 hours ago, Kitt said:

Ok, I should have done my usual comment first read others comments later.

Don't blame Kevin gang. He only gets Hank's side of things. I feel sorry for him, since he will find himself with the short straw again.

Hank is another story. He has decided based on his history what he wants to believe. He needs a good smack upside the head.

At least now Chase can start to move forward. No more treading water.

 

 

I most always do that too, Kitt. Otherwise, I lose my own train of thought. :) 

Good point about Kevin. No matter what he may be guilty of, or not, Hank is responsible for any following through. And rebound relationships seldom work... although I can think of one in particular that did. If only there was someone to give Hank that smack. Unfortunately, he has chosen to isolate himself. He really needs to open up and accept help. 

With the way Chase is, I see his growing strength, but I wonder if he can move on. He needs to, but it's not an easy task. Hank's reaction to his pouring his heart out may give him no choice. We'll see where he is in the next chapter, but for now, thank god Dawson is Dawson. :yes: 

Thanks for the comment and the support, Kitt... cheers... Gary.... :hug: 

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5 hours ago, pvtguy said:

So much to say about the story and some of the comments, but I will reduce it to these points:

1)  We don't know that Hank is seeing Dr.Chorney, but it is definitely possible.  However, he apparently has not worked through his feelings about his mother as is evident by his responses to Chase.  Thus, I'm withholding judgment still until we know more.

2) Chase is making progress, but he has yet to absolve himself of the guilt he feels.  He wants Hank's forgiveness,  but he is withholding forgiveness of himself until Hank absolves him.  That is still a lingering issue he needs to work through.

3)  Dawson is proving to be a real friend!  As for the common friends, we only know of the one set of friends who did not seem to take sides.  Chase has not pursued them either.

4)  Hank is taking Rex for apparently allowing him a great place to play.  Yet, it also seems another example of controlling Chase by denying him what he wants.  I see it as a more overt manipulation.

Another great chapter, Gary!! 

Tony

Hey, Tony! I like your points. :)  I doubt Hank would see the same therapist as Chase, but he certainly needs help. You are especially right about his issues with his mother. They have to be playing a part in how he now views the man he was supposed to love. Sad. 

You've hit the nail on the head with Chase. He still carries around a lot of guilt, and until he sheds it he is going to have problems. It appears forgiveness from Hank is unlikely. Sad.

Another good point that Chase has not faced his friends. He does know that the only one taking sides is Carlos, though. I think the guilt plays in here too. He doesn't reach out to his other friends because of it. Sad.

You could be right about the secondary motive for taking Rex to the cottage. I'm not sure about whether control plays a part, but telling Chase his complete plans was hurtful. He had to know that. Sad.

We still have a long way to go... Thanks, Tony, for sharing your thoughts on a difficult chapter. Much appreciated. :hug:  

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5 hours ago, jaysalmn said:

Yeah Hank, you can definitely go fuck yourself! Or go fuck "Kev" for that matter! Obviously Kevin isn't being any help with how Hank is dealing with Chase, probably filling his head with bullshit that has more to do with his own situation than Hank and Chase's! Chase needs to stop wasting his time. I'd cut ties with him, the dog, everything. Hank doesn't deserve to have any part in Chase's life. I hope to hell that this puts to rest any thoughts Chase has about wanting to get back with Hank. Again, who the hell would want Hank back after the way he's treated Chase?! 

Hey, jay! I always love hearing what you thought. Your anger is justified, but hey, Chase can't cut ties with Rex. The poor dog didn't do anything. :)  I do agree that with the way he is acting, Hank doesn't deserve anything more from Chase. He's the one burning bridges. The question is, why? What is going on with him? I don't expect any sympathy for him, but I'm worried for him. It seems to me he is in a depressive state. 

I think, logically, Chase has truly given up, but as far as where his heart sits, the Chase I know will not find it so easy. :( Thanks, buddy. Love your honest appraisals... cheers... Gary.... :hug: 

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4 hours ago, jaysalmn said:

OMG, I WANT HANK TO GO AWAY SOOOO BAD!!!! He and Kevin can walk into the sunset, hand in hand, and have a miserable life questioning every single thing the other does to the point that even breathing has an ulterior motive!! Chase deserves so much better. I hope this gives Chase what he needs to stop trying, and to tell Hank to go to hell if he decides he made a mistake. As far as I'm concerned, Hank is beyond forgiveness.

Yeah, I can't imagine Hank and Kevin would have trust with each other... not without professional therapy. We'll soon see where Chase is at... he's on a journey, and he is taking steps. :)  :hug: 

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Wow y’all are so hard on Hank! I feel sorry for him, and I feel like he’s become isolated from everyone but Kevin (maybe BY Kevin) and that Kevin is manipulating Hank for his own purposes. Hopefully Hank will wise up after Chase told him a few  hard truths about himself - I personally think there’s still hope for them as long as neither jumps too quickly into another relationship and they have an honest discussion about the past and moving forward. Stay tuned, right?! 

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3 hours ago, Geron Kees said:

Intense chapter. But Chase and Hank TALKED, and much was said on both sides. Important stuff.

Poor Dawson, that he seems to like Chase. And we don't know what's in Kevin's mind, though we can imagine. But Dawson seems to be a good friend, and I think he cares enough about Chase to respect the lines here.

I still believe that no two people can go at it like Chase and Hank did and not still be in love. Arguments based on hate have a totally different sound! :)

Or, one can hope!

 

 

Hey, Geron! Yes, they talked, and it was a long time coming. Too long in my opinion. Usually time heals, but not in Hank's case, and as I've said to some others, that worries me. Maybe Hank knows what he's doing, but it sure doesn't seem like it. 

I think Dawson likes Chase, yeah, but he has no misconceptions about where he stands. Besides, he still loves Brent... he has his own work to do. So yeah, he'll totally respect the lines. His reaction to the kiss proved that.

I'm with you that the fight showed there was strong feelings on both parts still. But does Hank realize it? Is he trying so hard to stay the course that he is out of touch with them. God, we humans can be stupid. :(

Nothing wrong with hope, buddy, but we don't always get what we think we want. :) Thank you, kind sir, for hanging in with me. :hug:  

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