This reminds me of why I don't own a TV anymore.

Also reminds me of the old saying, God didn't make man in his image, it was the other way around. Man made God in his (man's) image.

Kitty

Tell us how you really feel James .

Couldn't agree with you more

:king: Snow Dog

Hi James

Why would anyone want to be a part of a religion that is more than happy to forgive murders, thieves and rapists but someone being gay and honest about it is a deal breaker?

well that isn't exactly the doctrine. I believe it's something like there's a problem if you're actively killing, stealing, or sleeping with guys, but once you "repent" it's all good. But yes, I do believe it might be different now that the new Pope is office. I did hear something about the "witch hunt" he's conducting, but formerly I think the position was that you just weren't supposed to keep doing it.

I readily admit that religion is responsible for a HUGE amount of the negative attitudes toward homosexuality, as well as screwing with the heads of gay believers. But I think faith is something which ought to be more personal. I pick and choose exactly what I believe and what I don't; I don't need any church leaders to tell me what I believe. I continue to identify with Catholicism because I do hold to quite a few of the major beliefs and because it wouldn't really matter which religion I held affiliation with; I'd just continue to do my own thing anyway. Besides in my region of the country/state gay Catholics have an easier time of it, and less issues, than gay protestants.

I'm not trying to dispute your claims, the way the religion is carried often comes across in the manner you described. However, I don't doubt for a minute that if gay-sympathetic people ever came to power they could reorganize it in such a way that would be much more accepting. Anyway I guess you can't even call me a "Catholic" as undoubtedly if I ever had a theological discussion with the Pope (or even the previous Pope) I'd be excommunicated, but my weird, eclectic blend of beliefs does work for me , and I have no religious issues with homosexuality .

As for your evaluation of the reality show I'd say it's dead on. It does sound rather disgusting and in poor taste; however, that's pretty much my opinion of all the reality shows I've seen (the number of which I've thankfully managed to keep to a bare minimum).

Anyway take care and have an awesome day!

Kevin

Also reminds me of the old saying, God didn't make man in his image, it was the other way around. Man made God in his (man's) image.

 

Kitty

I have a distinct recollection of a quote from Mark Twain that goes something like: "God made man in his own image, and man, being a gentleman, returned the favor." However, I haven't been able to find a reference to it. Any help?

I have a distinct recollection of a quote from Mark Twain that goes something like: "God made man in his own image, and man, being a gentleman, returned the favor." However, I haven't been able to find a reference to it. Any help?

I don't think it was Twain, though he may have quoted it.

This page lists a shorter anonymous version. You might be interested in some of the other quotations there.

If you don't know Twain's Letters from the Earth and if you're interested in a satirical view of religion, I suggest you might like it.

I don't think it was Twain, though he may have quoted it.

 

This page lists a shorter anonymous version. You might be interested in some of the other quotations there.

I like this one from Anne LaMott, on the site you linked to:

You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. ~Anne Lamott

[i have a distinct recollection of a quote from Mark Twain that goes something like: "God made man in his own image, and man, being a gentleman, returned the favor." However, I haven't been able to find a reference to it. Any help?

Heya, fellow Oregonian *waves*

kitty