HMS Belvidera

[Daisy]

When in doubt, look it up.

 

It's a huge huge huge chunk that I'd need to look up.

 

Context being key at times .

 

But yeah, I do. I just wish at times that I had learnt some of this in school so I'd have some kind of background knowledge or outline. I stopped taking history when I was 16, but really wanted to continue, it was just we had to specialise then and I had no room left for it. Though now with foresight I would have taken it over Biology for my A level, which I never did end up needing like I was speculating as I haven't gone to med school. But then again my favourite teacher had been replaced by this idiot who couldn't teach (and who favoured doing the Tudors) - he was the subject of rumours that he liked the boys on the yr7 football team he coached a bit too much. Why the hell school management managed to pick several idiots for teachers, that's Subject Heads, from a good lot it's hard to understand. He ruined the subject.

 

The furthest I really learnt from those times was the Tudors and a tiny bit on the Stuarts, but I've essentially forgotten them. The Tudors it was like we overdosed on them. It's not really surprising how so many people don't know our own history when they were only taught snippets of it.

[Mark Arbour]

It's a huge huge huge chunk that I'd need to look up.

 

Context being key at times .

 

But yeah, I do. I just wish at times that I had learnt some of this in school so I'd have some kind of background knowledge or outline. I stopped taking history when I was 16, but really wanted to continue, it was just we had to specialise then and I had no room left for it. Though now with foresight I would have taken it over Biology for my A level, which I never did end up needing like I was speculating as I haven't gone to med school. But then again my favourite teacher had been replaced by this idiot who couldn't teach (and who favoured doing the Tudors) - he was the subject of rumours that he liked the boys on the yr7 football team he coached a bit too much. Why the hell school management managed to pick several idiots for teachers, that's Subject Heads, from a good lot it's hard to understand. He ruined the subject.

 

The furthest I really learnt from those times was the Tudors and a tiny bit on the Stuarts, but I've essentially forgotten them. The Tudors it was like we overdosed on them. It's not really surprising how so many people don't know our own history when they were only taught snippets of it.

 

Most Americans are pretty oblivious about their own history. The Stuarts were rumored to be hung like horses.

 

I find Wiki to be a great resource. It's not always right, but it's a good place to start.

[puma]

MARK I believe #15 is my favorite chapter so far. looking forward to what he will do next with the BROTHERHOOD club keep up the excellent work

[Mark Arbour]

MARK I believe #15 is my favorite chapter so far. looking forward to what he will do next with the BROTHERHOOD club keep up the excellent work

 

I'm glad you liked it! And thanks for your posting cherry! I got another one!

[ricky]

I'm glad you liked it! And thanks for your posting cherry! I got another one!

 

A Cherry? You got another one? Can you really DO that? How longs that take?

[Tiger]

A Cherry? You got another one? Can you really DO that? How longs that take?

 

All it takes is a first post.

[ricky]

All it takes is a first post.

 

That's a pretty "stuck-up" answer.

[Tiger]

That's a pretty "stuck-up" answer.

 

What I mean is that if someone's first post here, that means that Mark popped their cherry.

[ricky]

What I mean is that if someone's first post here, that means that Mark popped their cherry.

 

Is that another way of saying he sampled the fruit of their loins?

 

Seeing as though it was their "cherry" , it makes one must ask if they were "stoned" or "pitted".

 

Wow, wish "I" had vacations like that. I guess when I went to Cabo the last time and that kid asked me if I wanted to buy his brother because he was a virgin for ten minutes now, I should have been paying more than attention! Hey Mark, can I have your travel agents number?

[ricky]

I, for one, am enjoying the slightly slower posting pace.

 

Not just a "little" biased are you? Ms Editor wench! But since you work so hard for the cause we'll forgive the mutinous comment. Or were you left handedly telling him he was late posting? In which case you are forgiven and even supported in your visionary comments.

 

An exceptional chapter Mark. As always way too short. Something this good however always feels that way.

 

The sad part about it is that he'll be trailed and held back by a lumbering frigate bearing the staff. It is highly unlikely that he will take any action or seize any prize while Sir Jarvis is onboard. It may be an honor, but you can't by much with it. Not to mention the additional scrutiny. How is Granger to get laid? Or anyone for that matter. There is just something about having God on board that tends to make sinful buggering a little scarier and tends to make one's ass hole slam shut!

 

I wonder if the Admiral will shower on deck. After all it is a shipwide requirement. Fat chance. (Pardon the pun)

 

No, I think that the ships love canal will be tighter than a new midshipman. And HOW long is the voyage? Plan a fleet wide orgy for the day after depositing Sir John to his flag ship.

[Enric]

ch16: oh the poor mood

[Tiger]

I enjoyed the chapter. The Brotherhood is definitely an interesting twist. I like the idea of an orgy and Stonehenge. That sounds hot! Oh, and it seems that even Spencer is intimidated by Sir John. I love it. Poor Granger though... he'll be stuck having an admiral on his ship for a while. I'd always thought admirals had their own ships. I'm a little confused about that. :wacko:

[Mark Arbour]

I enjoyed the chapter. The Brotherhood is definitely an interesting twist. I like the idea of an orgy and Stonehenge. That sounds hot! Oh, and it seems that even Spencer is intimidated by Sir John. I love it. Poor Granger though... he'll be stuck having an admiral on his ship for a while. I'd always thought admirals had their own ships. I'm a little confused about that. :wacko:

 

Admirals have a flagship, but they are technically just passengers aboard that ship. It is the Captain of the ship that runs it. The Admiral is responsible for the fleet/squadron, in other words, the action of the group. That being said, no sane Captain would blithely disregard an admiral, and certainly not a Commander-in-Chief like Jervis.

 

Incidentally, Sir John Jervis will defeat the Spaniards at the Battle of Cape St. Vincent and receive a peerage for it, becoming Lord St. Vincent. Later, he'll become First Lord of the Admiralty, and a quite controversial one at that. He crusaded against waste, fraud, and corruption. I think it's the one battle he lost, sort of.

[ricky]

Admirals have a flagship, but they are technically just passengers aboard that ship. It is the Captain of the ship that runs it. The Admiral is responsible for the fleet/squadron, in other words, the action of the group. That being said, no sane Captain would blithely disregard an admiral, and certainly not a Commander-in-Chief like Jervis.

 

Incidentally, Sir John Jervis will defeat the Spaniards at the Battle of Cape St. Vincent and receive a peerage for it, becoming Lord St. Vincent. Later, he'll become First Lord of the Admiralty, and a quite controversial one at that. He crusaded against waste, fraud, and corruption. I think it's the one battle he lost, sort of.

 

Why do you say he is quite controversial? in what way? I mean those at the top, it seems would quite naturally be against waste and fraud as it directly affects their pockets. And corruption is nothing more than influence or leverage by means of barter rather than heritage. The wink and the nod are still unspoken payment. And let's be real, Granger has a wealth that exceeds the coin or the court! He's still tight!

[Mark Arbour]

Why do you say he is quite controversial? in what way? I mean those at the top, it seems would quite naturally be against waste and fraud as it directly affects their pockets. And corruption is nothing more than influence or leverage by means of barter rather than heritage. The wink and the nod are still unspoken payment. And let's be real, Granger has a wealth that exceeds the coin or the court! He's still tight!

 

Jervis was like a bull in a china shop. When he went to tackle the corruption, primarily in the dockyards, he went at them like that: aggressively. And as you noted, corruption is basically a form of influence and it was quite entrenched. So he pissed off a lot of people in the process.

[Mark M]

damn, and I haven't read those yet.

 

Get to work reading the CAP series maybe then u won't post 50 paragraphes....or end up with double posts....

 

See, I told you I'd give Granger a new boy-toy soon enough. Even I'm wondering which of all these men in his life has, or will have, more of his heart. Travers? Calvert? Or maybe even Cavendish?

 

Cavendish is the lamest name around. Thought i'd let everyone know this, who wants to be named a dish?

 

Anway the brotherhood.....well gross's me out a little althought i'm not into threesomes with three men so well.........lucky it works so well for girls......and Orgy's well what about STD'S or HIV? or the various other sexually transmitted things. Like Granger f**ked countless people. Question who is the other "Royal" Granger f**ked? must have been a long time ago. And i think we need to meet up with........his first captain just to see what he's up to. And i'm also very dissapointed the way Lord Hood's role Has changed, he felt so intimidating. Now the king himself doesn't feel intimidating at all....might want to work on that mark

 

I did wonder about travers but it doesn't surprise me.... i really want to see what granger says when he knows. and that he manditorily has to f**k travers because it's rude to say no!!! lol i really wouldnt mind fast forwarding till then. Or the fact Jervis might take a Shower on Deck!?!? That'd be hilarious!!! No1 would look that's for sure....least maybe everyone but granger. Maybe there will be a one night thing going on?

 

Anyway i think we should have a wrinkler sex scene in Grangers POV. It would be interesting. Or Granger should walk in on him hahahaha If only..!

 

Ummm So granger has this AWESOME looking boat thanks to the port (Madria?) and jervis is coming on board. How splended. Hopefully granger does't have to kill anyone for Buggery.

 

Anyway i'll try and be more active or ricky will catch up on my posts

[ricky]

Get to work reading the CAP series maybe then u won't post 50 paragraphes....or end up with double posts....

 

 

 

Cavendish is the lamest name around. Thought i'd let everyone know this, who wants to be named a dish?

 

Anway the brotherhood.....well gross's me out a little althought i'm not into threesomes with three men so well.........lucky it works so well for girls......and Orgy's well what about STD'S or HIV? or the various other sexually transmitted things. Like Granger f**ked countless people. Question who is the other "Royal" Granger f**ked? must have been a long time ago. And i think we need to meet up with........his first captain just to see what he's up to. And i'm also very dissapointed the way Lord Hood's role Has changed, he felt so intimidating. Now the king himself doesn't feel intimidating at all....might want to work on that mark

 

I did wonder about travers but it doesn't surprise me.... i really want to see what granger says when he knows. and that he manditorily has to f**k travers because it's rude to say no!!! lol i really wouldnt mind fast forwarding till then. Or the fact Jervis might take a Shower on Deck!?!? That'd be hilarious!!! No1 would look that's for sure....least maybe everyone but granger. Maybe there will be a one night thing going on?

 

Anyway i think we should have a wrinkler sex scene in Grangers POV. It would be interesting. Or Granger should walk in on him hahahaha If only..!

 

Ummm So granger has this AWESOME looking boat thanks to the port (Madria?) and jervis is coming on board. How splended. Hopefully granger does't have to kill anyone for Buggery.

 

Anyway i'll try and be more active or ricky will catch up on my posts

 

Sweet Cavendish? What do you have against him? And who wouldn't want to be named after something that enjoys being eaten time and time again?

 

Tell me Mark M., Is that perhaps short for Mark M. WILCOX? You talk like a Wilcox.

 

And why wouldn't Sir John enjoy a little exhibitionism? He might be quite handsome at that age. As for the possibility of punishment for buggery, I would think that Granger would permit an escape first.

 

I think I like the role of Hood. He is intimidating to everyone else. Just not granger. What will be damned interesting is when Sir John extends his hand to shake and his brand shows to Granger.

 

Now as for a little POV sex with Winkler. I think it would be worth a sub chapter for the same only from winky's POV. Or perhaps a little Cavendish / Granger / Winkler action. You know have Cavendish and Granger going at it and have Winkler barge in but when he tries to excuse himself have Cavendish say "Wait!" Then look into Granger's eyes for a moment before saying, "Stay, Join us.)

 

And BTW I have read everything but the land whore. Working on that soon but I have a couple chapters I have to get out before MY readers send out a lynch mob. I'd hate for them to put a hit out on Mark over my own indiscretions.

 

And. . . were you gone? We hadn't noticed your absence Mr. Wilcox.

[Tiger]

Ricky, the problem some have with Cavendish is that he's not Calvert. Some really wanted him to stay. They love him to pieces. I don't blame them. He was a yummy character. Hopefully they'll get used to "Gravendish" soon.

[Enric]

cavendish's name cannot be helped.

these nobles, they are not allowed to change the family name. they just may get permission to add new barreled parts....

 

it was sealed that some aristocrat needs to be cavendish already in history: man from a more or less mediocre lineage rose to powerful positiion sometime in old queen bess' reign. you know old queens. Then, because the guy and his important wife left several grandsons of that name (and somesuch git raised to hold the rank of earl), the name is bound to circulate in the English top aristocracy.

Just be satisfied that we haven't yet got any whose first name is cavendish. Even that could be possible in the 1700s naming culture of english gentry.

[ricky]

Ricky, the problem some have with Cavendish is that he's not Calvert. Some really wanted him to stay. They love him to pieces. I don't blame them. He was a yummy character. Hopefully they'll get used to "Gravendish" soon.

 

Hey I loved him too! But I'm big enough to love Cavendish too.

[Mark Arbour]

Cavendish is Granger's first "man" who's younger than him. I personally think he's adorable, plus it's interesting to have Granger suddenly have to take responsibility for the young man and his emotions, instead of the other way around.

[ricky]

Cavendish is Granger's first "man" who's younger than him. I personally think he's adorable, plus it's interesting to have Granger suddenly have to take responsibility for the young man and his emotions, instead of the other way around.

 

He is also completely infatuated with Granger. Not that there is anything wrong with that when you are so far out to sea and all. However, I believe we are about to get a new midshipman too aren't we? As one is made Lieutenant? And who was promoted? Hmmm could be that a new midshipman could bring more material for Winkler. I wonder if Cavendish went back to sea without the blessings of his family. After all they almost lost him and it would be hard to see him go back to see not completely healed.

 

Mother's . . . you know.

[Mark Arbour]

He is also completely infatuated with Granger. Not that there is anything wrong with that when you are so far out to sea and all. However, I believe we are about to get a new midshipman too aren't we? As one is made Lieutenant? And who was promoted? Hmmm could be that a new midshipman could bring more material for Winkler. I wonder if Cavendish went back to sea without the blessings of his family. After all they almost lost him and it would be hard to see him go back to see not completely healed.

 

Mother's . . . you know.

 

I doubt Winkler would get involved with a midshipman. It's the class barrier thing.

[ricky]

I doubt Winkler would get involved with a midshipman. It's the class barrier thing.

 

Funny how a stiff insistence has no conscience.

[Tiger]

Funny how a stiff insistence has no conscience.

 

He's probably right about that. Also, he'd never get with Granger either. In those times it was bad enough to even sleep with other men, let alone ones so far below or above your social status. It's still probably a big deal in the UK but not to nearly the same extent as it was then.