Tiger Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Who wants a Smart Car? This is what they look like. This is what they look like after a crash.
MikeL Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 Oops. Maybe not so "smart" driving one between two dump trucks.
TetRefine Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Hmm, I think I'll stick to my nice, big, comfy, safe, gas guzzling SUV!
Mark Arbour Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 I wish Buicks would do that. Spontaneously. (Not yours Tiger).
Tiger Posted March 4, 2010 Author Posted March 4, 2010 Oops. Maybe not so "smart" driving one between two dump trucks. That's not smart with any car, but that was gets crushed like an aluminum can. Others would be damaged, and it's likely to be deadly, but I doubt the damage is quite that severe on a normal car. Hmm, I think I'll stick to my nice, big, comfy, safe, gas guzzling SUV! That sounds like a plan, but don't forget there are hybrid SUVs now! I wish Buicks would do that. Spontaneously. (Not yours Tiger). Just let me teach them how to drive them. Buicks can actually go fast. I should know. I've gone about 80.
Jack Frost Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 It's made to handle slower streets like in downtown rather than on a major avenue next to the highway.
Mark Arbour Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Just let me teach them how to drive them. Buicks can actually go fast. I should know. I've gone about 80. Almost 80? Wow. Are you a bad-ass or what?
Tiger Posted March 4, 2010 Author Posted March 4, 2010 Almost 80? Wow. Are you a bad-ass or what? Well, there aren't any open roads in the Dallas area. Despite what some might think, there are large population centers in Texas. To really test it out, I need to go somewhere more isolated.
Mark Arbour Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Well, there aren't any open roads in the Dallas area. Despite what some might think, there are large population centers in Texas. To really test it out, I need to go somewhere more isolated. Or weave in and out of traffic. You learn how to do that if you grow up in California.
Tiger Posted March 4, 2010 Author Posted March 4, 2010 Or weave in and out of traffic. You learn how to do that if you grow up in California. That's not my style. Speaking of weaving in and out, it'd actually be fairly easy with a Smart Car, though there's the added danger of someone not seeing you.
Steve3 Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Looks like they'd have to "rinse" the remains outta that one. Eww.
writeincode Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 OMG that's gotta just smoosh the people inside! I was looking into getting a smart car but the visibility isn't great. Maybe they didn't see the massive trucks...
Tim the Traveller Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 That's not my style. Speaking of weaving in and out, it'd actually be fairly easy with a Smart Car, though there's the added danger of someone not seeing you. Actually, No. In order to properly weave in and out of traffic, You need something with more power than a lawnmower. Anyone who has ever tried it in a 3 or 4 cylinder car knows that it just doesn't work. You look(and feel)like an idiot if you have to slow down from 85 to 60, Because it takes you 20 seconds to get back to 85. Unlike a 6 or 8 cylinder car, Where you can get back to 85-90 in less than 5 seconds. Space-wise it would be ideal, but not with the horsepower they have available. Unless someone were to put Nitrous on one But I wouldn't want one anyway, It's not a Chevy Truck, Therefore it is worthless.
MikeL Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 OMG that's gotta just smoosh the people inside! I was looking into getting a smart car but the visibility isn't great. Maybe they didn't see the massive trucks... More likely, the truck drivers didn't see them.
Aeroplane Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 Perhaps too political for the lounge, so if you click here its your own damn fault if you don't like what you see. Interesting set of quotes here In their attempt to appear youthful and hip, SUV owners have filled the American highways with vehicles that exact a distinctly human cost, frequently killing innocent drivers who would have survived a collision with a lesser vehicle. Bradsher quotes auto execs who concede that the self-centered lifestyle of SUV buyers is apparent in "their willingness to endanger other motorists so as to achieve small improvements in their personal safety." SUV drivers have a troubling tendency to run over their own kids. We can all produce mangled car pictures from crashes and feel all macho and butch because OH we drive a big 'manly' car, but at the end of the day it is unluckiness or stupidity which cause the most fatalities and they apply equally to everyone.
Mark Arbour Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 Perhaps too political for the lounge, so if you click here its your own damn fault if you don't like what you see. Interesting set of quotes here We can all produce mangled car pictures from crashes and feel all macho and butch because OH we drive a big 'manly' car, but at the end of the day it is unluckiness or stupidity which cause the most fatalities and they apply equally to everyone. Hmmm. I'm not sure that facts are inappropriate or controversial. I find the little graph fascinating, but the pictures are a bit more horrific.
rknapp Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) Jack is right, they're not meant for highways. Unfortunately, Americans drive on highways all the time, so they should not even be sold here. I remember see one after a dump truck whacked it. They pulled the driver out in pieces, and the lower section of his spine was cleanly severed from his pelvis. Just let me teach them how to drive them. Buicks can actually go fast. I should know. I've gone about 80. Talk to me when you've kissed 120 MPH in a Chrysler sedan. Or weave in and out of traffic. You learn how to do that if you grow up in California. Even better, learn to drive in New Jersey anywhere along its border with Pennsylvania. PENNDOT doesn't have "Lanes" in the lesson plan, and neglected to mention that speed limits are merely suggestions. Add to that the high salaries here and the low cost of living there, and I have a recipe for an interesting morning commute. Thank the gods for handling that would make a 5-series blush. Edited March 6, 2010 by rknapp
rknapp Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 That's not my style. Speaking of weaving in and out, it'd actually be fairly easy with a Smart Car, though there's the added danger of someone not seeing you. The Smart FourTwo employs a 3-cylinder engine between the rear wheels. If you want to weave in traffic, you'd have better luck with a Toyota. At least that one will do all the wide-open throttle acceleration (whether you like it or not!).
Mark Arbour Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 Jack is right, they're not meant for highways. Unfortunately, Americans drive on highways all the time, so they should not even be sold here. I remember see one after a dump truck whacked it. They pulled the driver out in pieces, and the lower section of his spine was cleanly severed from his pelvis. Talk to me when you've kissed 120 MPH in a Chrysler sedan. Even better, learn to drive in New Jersey anywhere along its border with Pennsylvania. PENNDOT doesn't have "Lanes" in the lesson plan, and neglected to mention that speed limits are merely suggestions. Add to that the high salaries here and the low cost of living there, and I have a recipe for an interesting morning commute. Thank the gods for handling that would make a 5-series blush. Speed limits aren't merely suggestions? The Smart FourTwo employs a 3-cylinder engine between the rear wheels. If you want to weave in traffic, you'd have better luck with a Toyota. At least that one will do all the wide-open throttle acceleration (whether you like it or not!). Yeah, but stopping could be a problem.
Jack Frost Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) I've never heard of speeding limits as suggestion. lol But I can definitely confirm that radar guns are illegal in Pennsylvania for use beyond the state police on state highways (interstates and state routes... that's it...). Maybe that's what Rob's hinting... Local cops cannot legally catch you with a radar gun, but rather with old-fashioned methods... paint stripes on the road and a timer. No wonder why Jersey drivers annoy the shit out of us. Edited March 6, 2010 by Jack Frost
JamesSavik Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 the smart car is the one they don't bury you in.
Zeoanne Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 I see that accident and ask myself whose fault was it. A LOT of times when accidents happen with dump trucks/18 wheelers the fault goes to the 4 wheeler driver. I have a CB in my van and would much rather drive boxed in between 18 wheelers than with other 4 wheelers, I feel safer (and it's soooo much fun messing with them guys!). I do let them know what I'm doing though. People think that they can just cut off an 18 wheeler and then slow down. It takes so much longer for a truck that size with a heavy load to slow down, let alone stop and I've seen TONS of 4 wheelers just cutting them off right in front of them. Those trucks have a long nose and the driver sits way up high and it's almost impossible to see a small car pulling right in front of them. I've even had to let a driver know they have a small 4 wheeler on their nose so they don't run them over. YES, there are a lot of asshole 18 wheeler drivers that try to *push* you out of the lane because they want to go faster and you are making it impossible which in that case, if I see that the driver is being a total jerk and driving reckless I won't hesitate in calling the cops on his ass. People like that don't need to be behind what I call a lethal weapon of that magnitude. But unless you have a CB and let a driver know what you're doing, you need to respect them. I consider them to be like a train, they won't stop on a dime. The fastest I've driven is 115mph on I-20 heading to Arizona. DON'T DO IT AT NIGHT!!!! I hit a road gator doing 85 and it was NOT fun!!! Scared the SHIT outta us!!!
Mark Arbour Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 I see that accident and ask myself whose fault was it. A LOT of times when accidents happen with dump trucks/18 wheelers the fault goes to the 4 wheeler driver. I have a CB in my van and would much rather drive boxed in between 18 wheelers than with other 4 wheelers, I feel safer (and it's soooo much fun messing with them guys!). I do let them know what I'm doing though. People think that they can just cut off an 18 wheeler and then slow down. It takes so much longer for a truck that size with a heavy load to slow down, let alone stop and I've seen TONS of 4 wheelers just cutting them off right in front of them. Those trucks have a long nose and the driver sits way up high and it's almost impossible to see a small car pulling right in front of them. I've even had to let a driver know they have a small 4 wheeler on their nose so they don't run them over. YES, there are a lot of asshole 18 wheeler drivers that try to *push* you out of the lane because they want to go faster and you are making it impossible which in that case, if I see that the driver is being a total jerk and driving reckless I won't hesitate in calling the cops on his ass. People like that don't need to be behind what I call a lethal weapon of that magnitude. But unless you have a CB and let a driver know what you're doing, you need to respect them. I consider them to be like a train, they won't stop on a dime. The fastest I've driven is 115mph on I-20 heading to Arizona. DON'T DO IT AT NIGHT!!!! I hit a road gator doing 85 and it was NOT fun!!! Scared the SHIT outta us!!! Wait a minute. You have a CB in your van? What is this, 1976? I bet you're like Sally Field in Smokey and the Bandit. Leader of the
Zeoanne Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 Mark, considering that Radar Detectors are illegal in this damn state, a CB is the next best thing. Also, considering that I can very easily get lost in front of my house, it's always good to have a CB to ask for directions. When there's traffic jam and to find out where the boys in blue are giving out candy wrappers, it's a plus! Plus, if you're traveling solo and you're bored to death them boys can keep you entertained sometimes, til they start talking shit to others, then it's a war. Plus, you can flirt like hell!!!
rknapp Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 I've never heard of speeding limits as suggestion. lol But I can definitely confirm that radar guns are illegal in Pennsylvania for use beyond the state police on state highways (interstates and state routes... that's it...). Maybe that's what Rob's hinting... Local cops cannot legally catch you with a radar gun, but rather with old-fashioned methods... paint stripes on the road and a timer. No wonder why Jersey drivers annoy the shit out of us. Who said anything about radar guns... I was talking about PA drivers insisting on driving at or below the speed suggestion. 65 really means 80, pick a lane and get with the program! lol
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