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And maybe without a Dad or two. That would truly be sad.

It's really too bad, this story is so good. If Brad and Matt do this, they will not be able to keep it secret. Stef will know, just looking at them. Once other people know Robbie will be distroyed and Wade will be hurt badly. I would hate to lose Wade I like him. Next the relationship with Jeanine and the kids could be damaged as well. If the family rejects Brad, I am worried what would happen. Could we end up with two more Jeff Hayes? Rejected bitter and died. It happened before. I know it always comes back to Jeff. He was the one who got JP to bring Isidore and Ace to the US, He help JP to buy the house in California. Without Isidore, no Ace, Claire, Billy and no Brad. Just lonely JP. If all this happens what would happen to Matt? Could this even break up JP and Stef. Would that be a great ending to the saga everybody sad lonely. At the last JP forced to sell and live in a nursing home.

Long ago Mark killed off Jeff Hayes. Rebellion was rampent then. This is my 100th post and maybe my last I am not sure I could continue reading if this happens. Mark your stories have bought me great joy over the years. This could cause my great sadness which honestly I don't need. You are a great writer, the saga is beyond good. I wait for the next chapter to post and check for it twice a day. Over the years I have seen this ( people's lives ruined over lust ) happen to too many people. I am sorry but this is how I feel. Hopefully not good bye, Bob

Secrets never remain secrets. It will always get out. This one and only act will destroy many lives.

If this is a attack on Brad, I doubt if it is Jeanine I think she wants things to just go along is they are. Shes mad at Brad because he added another teenager Drew and both him and Robbie are leaving her with all the work. Also I think she's not too happy that Drew and Will are lovers at such a early age. Brad unlike JP has never included her in his plans or gone out of the way for her. Think of it she is setting at home taking care of the kids when both Brad and Robbie have these important powerful jobs. Throwing money at her is not the answer. Spending time with her caring about her is. I agree that the mastermind has not been reviled yet. I still think it is Nick, Brad brother and maybe Brian both have good reasons to hate Brad. Also maybe Rev. Carmichael Brad's half brother. One more thing this last chapter showed Robbie and Brad slowly getting things together. For once they are controlling things event are not controlling them. I can't wait until the next chapter. Thanks Mark for a great story!

Over the years JP has really tried to help Brad and Robbie. I am thinking maybe only Cody and David can do it now. Robbie and Brad help a equal relationship. Not Brad making all the decisions. Brad also has to stop using Carson as a club. beating Robbie over the head over and over again.

No, but some Hayes men react badly after doing it. Part of this is not Robbie's failt. Whoever did this planned it very carefully. Attacking Robbie and Brad and the company all at once. They also embeded Carson and Brandon almost like a sleeper cell. Luke and Brad didn't see what was happening until the third lost deal. It takes Hayes men a time to get it ( what is going on). Just like Brad sometimes needs a little time to cool off before he deals with things. Jeff couldn't live with loosing JP. If Robbie looses Brad will he be able to deal with it?

I think Marcel is in a good place now. When last we saw him he was pretty grounded. Matt has Wade ( I love Wade he's great) and is surrounded with support, JP, Stef, Frank, and his parents. If he would have lost it it would have been after Thanksgiving. Robbie , however, is a different story. Hints of it showed up when Matt was sick. I still think Robbie is Brad's soul mate.

Please let's not have another dead Hayes.

This could be the end of Robbie.

The last two chapters (15, 16) have some of the best in the whole saga. I am worry however that Robbie will loose it totally. This situation reminds me of /JP and Jeff after JP overhears Jeff tell Stef he loves Stef the most. IF Brad moves on to Father Tim can Robbie survive? Could Brad's moving on like JP moved on with Sam cause Robbie to loose it? Jeff killed himself ( with help) in the end. Some Hayes men are very unstable. Robbie seems to be one of them. I would hate to be Brad living with the guilt and sadness JP has had all these years. JP can handle it better than Brad could. I am hoping that Brad's love for Robbie will bring them back together in the end.

Ok here is my guess. First of all at it not just one person but a group of people who have gathered. Stef and Brad thought Lard didn''t have the money for this. However if it was a group of people each one would not have to be as rich. Let's look at each person and what they could have to bring to the table. Dan Church: classmate of Brad and Robbie, Brad dropped him to get back from Robbie, that was almost twenty year ago a long time to hold a plot and take over. Mark Clark: long time friend of Brad, Brad drop him cause of Robbie and he got into a fight with Robbie on Max,s parents lawn. Lard also drove a BMW in high school so jhis family must have had bucks. Nick Schluter: Brad's half brother. Nick has a trust fund. He was getting along with Brad in 1985 but later in The Box was not. What changed? Bitty's death? Brian: Jp's half-brother. Brian was upset with Matt and would do anything to hurt the family. Brian was also Stef's personal assistant so a insider with a lot of imformation that could be damaging. What Brandan and Carson have to do with it is unknown other than they are spies. The wild card maybe Rev. Carmichael: anti gay pastor of Calgery Baptist Church. Could he be Brad's half brother and Kevin's father? All of them have reason to hurt Brad and Robbie, some of them have money to pool and some of them have information which could be useful. One thing is missing the mastermind who could it be?

Chapter 15, I think shows Mark's craft at it's best. Weaving three stories and making the guys real. Father Tim finding Brad and later Stef show us that not all religious people are wackos and it;s not about money but people.. Many are like Tim trying to help spread love and hope not hate. Stef 's address also shows us the kind of person he is. Yes he wants to make money but not at the expense of others. I think that makes him noble. Stef and maybe Brad's plan to hopefully ruin Dan, Lard and their crew. The interesting thing is that greed will bring them down. After reading, rereading and reading again I had learned that Mark and his team weave many story lines into the saga and it only gets better and better. Honestly, I thought nothing would top Bloodlines. Who could not love Matt, Wade and hockey players. The downfall of Brian and the redemption of Matt's parents. It had everything. Millennium has even more!! I wait with baited breath for each new chapter. Thank you again Mark and your wonderful team. :worship:

Brad told Robbie he was only thinking about himself. I think both of them were. I know Brad was hurt and hurt badly. Brad's meeting Father Tim gives Brad something to do with Brad's time as he solves the mystery and takes Dan Church and his crew down. When I read this chapter I can only see Stef finding out about it and helping out too. Think of all the people over the years the family have helped. Maybe starting with Stef himself, Taking in Ace, Brad, Lou, Marcel, Matt, Cole and so many others. I think Frank said it best who are the real christian people Robbies mother and her preacher friend, the horrible people in Wyoming or Father Tim, JP and Brad. Way to go Brad I am proud of you! Brad's always had a good heart. He proved it again here. Great chapter! They only get better and better!! :2thumbs:

I was going back and forth if Robbie and Brad should stay together. After chapter 11 I have no doubts. They must stay together. People in a family can fight with themselves until a outside force comes. That threat will unite them, Brad and Robbie will, must put away their pride and defend their relationship their family and their home. They have gone through hell before. They are stronger together, much stronger. They are up against someone who knowa them very well. Someone who knows their weaknesses. The next chapter will tell us. I bets are on Lark.

To see Brad go completely nuts is really sad but now maybe Brad and Robbie will work together. If they do their relationship will be even stronger and the good guys will Win. Mark I am starting believe you are going to surpass Bloodlines and that would be some thing. I still think it is Lark. Lark parents must will been well off he had a BMW in high school. He was working in the market. Brad choose Robbie over him. Robbie beat him on Max's parents lawn. Lark with a few others Brian, Max's parents and a few people from High school as a cover. The idea of all Brad's problem have a common source is not so hard to believe. This last Chapter was the BEST. We all are waiting breathless for number 12!!! I hope we don't have to wait too long.

Kevin is a sweet kid. He likes Brad because of who Brad is not what he can give him.

I'm not sure if Mark is like Brad or not. I will say Brad maybe a wounded person, mainly because of his mother and brother and sister, however it also made Brad strong. Robbie wounded Brad badly very badly. Most people would not be able to bound back. But Brad has seen JP over the years, lose Jeff and Sam Roger and Mouse. Brad know what it is to lose a person you love. After a week of sadness Brad is back. Even if he loses Robbie he will make it. Of all the charactors I love Brad maybe only JP more. Go Brad!!!

Don't hate Robbie. He's screwed up. Raped in High School and in a French prison. And then there is or was Neil. At first I thought Brad and Robbie would make it. Now I am not sure. Brad has his limits. I am hoping Robbie will not end up like Jeff. Robbie does not have a drug problem but he is very unstable. Where are Robbie and Brad going? It's got to be some place close. Yosemite? It's where they said they loved each other.

Brad's trysts mmmmmmmmm.

I like this stronger Brad. He did not create this mess but he will not put up with it. He may lose Robbie but if he does he never really had Robbie. As I said before Brad is much stronger than Robbie. Emotionally I don't understand Robbie. I guess it was Robbie's reaction to Matt's illness in Bloodlines. He can not take the stress. If that's true I am worried about Robbie. Mark is crafting this story will great care. Will Brad lose Robbie? Will that be a bad thing? The kids are older now so maybe they can understand it more. I think Brad is the most important person in the family so maybe Robbie leaving would not be as tramatic. Is Brad ready for a 20yo lover?

I'm hoping for a threesome Brad, Matt and Wade.

Karen and Lark hummm. That could be it. Both dumped by Brad.

Another person it could be Jason. Jason would never be out to get Stef or Brad. Make money yes but not hurt Stef on purpose.

Lark has got to be part of it. I never thought about Nic. Nic hates Brad. Only a group of people could out fox Stef. Another thought Stef, Brad and Luke think its someone out to get them. What if its not a vendetta only somebody wanting to may money and using Stef to do so. They only target deals which the guys are going to buy. Not doing any reseach on their own. Stef's answer to it will bring Amphion down.