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  1. So the last few posts got me thinking, so I did some reading First thing I thought of was when Dex came over to the William's house to try and break the login on Eric's computer when they caught him running the video site. This paragraph came to mind: Next came in the last chapter talking about the shortage of officers in town: Which got me to thinking that really Eric was never directly linked to putting the key logger on Mr. Williams computer. Second, since four deputy's got sick at a church picnic, I assume that it was Thaddeus' church holding the picnic. So would it be a far fetched assumption that the four deputies are members of his church? Could it be that Thaddeus has not only control over Eric as his real father, but is behind the corruption of the Lonesome Valley P.D.? Now here is my rankings of the characters so far: So I am beginning to think the evilest of characters is Thaddeus Followed up by Blackheart as he was directly communicating with Thaddeus. And Sheriff Buchanan is connected by blood to Thaddeus And then there is the poor minor, who obviously been unduly influenced by people much older than him. Not only does he have a evil father, but his Dad's rival, Sheriff Buchanan would also appeal to his mis-directed yearnings to be accepted. I figure that considering the above evidence that there is only one rating for Eric Steve
  2. Congratulations CJ on the four thousandth post. I suggest you book all four of your hooves in for a much deserved pedicure. You need to take care of them for the next four thousand Uck, so much for spell check, I think I need an editor for my posts....anyone interested :wacko:
  3. Hi CJ, That was a nice relaxing chapter to read. It mainly took me back to visits to Hawaii when I visited the Arizona Memorial. It is beginning to look that any lawsuit the guys have against Thaddeus will help ensure that they can afford to go to college in Maui. So for something . When the boys first met with the anal FBI woman (thought I'd use that word instead), she was wearing a black business suit, which got me thinking about the police in Hawaii. In most tropical places, police wear white as it is cooler than the black. Yet in Hawaii, all the police including the beat cops are in black. Why? Figured someone may know the answer to this question. And as far as Eric goes, I believe that he personally checked himself into a rehab centre and will change his ways. He will come out and become a peer counselor for other troubled teens and be very successful with it. Thus revealing the angle that Eric always was . As far as the locating device goes, does this mean another trip back to Piedmont County for Chris? It would make the story quite exciting and make us all wonder what Veronica will do to get back at him. Lastly, I loved the way that Chris finally got Steve back for all the speedo incidents. I can just visually imagine an eighteen year old guy in polyester shorts, a loud Hawaiian shirt, and a lime green ball cap. Steve P.S. I can't believe that you appear to be avoiding posting. Your still 6 away from the magic number. Come on, be the first goat to reach the lofty 4000!!! I'm sure there is money to be made here.
  4. I'm sure that you had another certain Steve in mind when you were thinking of all the destruction and havoc when you were coming up with the name.
  5. I have to agree 100% with Viv. It doesn't matter if you are writing about a Cat 5 storm or explaining a repair to a car, you either have a very vast knowledge of much, or you do your research to the max. I actually read the first few paragraphs of the story and thought I maybe had something that you had missed in your research. As a kid, I learned in school that Hurricanes were in the Atlantic and Typhoons were in the Pacific, thus making the possibility of a hurricane impossible in Hawaii unless the islands floated through the Panama Canal. So, I paused and did some research and learned that in fact you were correct. It turns out that in North America we call all tropical cyclones as Hurricanes. Elsewhere in the world, it seems they are called Hurricanes, or Typhoons, or Cyclones depending on their origin. I know I'm babbling, but I guess I'm amazed that you probably knew all of this already. As for the characters of the story, I was impressed with the bravery that Drake showed. He obviously sensed that there was something just not right with Cody. The first clue I picked up on was with the offered pop and sandwich for lunch. I love the way you throw in these little hints through out the beginning of the story, and they all fall in place at the end. It is always rewarding to re-read your stories and see what was missed the first time round. Thanks for the enjoyable afternoon. Steve
  6. wildone

    PornoGrafiK

    The debate on what is porn and what is not will go on forever. I think back to when Brokeback Mountain came out (BTW, was filmed near hear, know a few of the extras). Boy, did that stir up the controversy. The religious right all claimed it was a gay porn film. The mass media critics called it a gay love story. Some people called it a romance between two cowboys. Who is right? I guess they all are in their minds. I imagine if you took two guys and sent them out on a date and nothing more happened, it would still be porn for the religious people. Except it is not porn if it was a boy and girl, so I guess that skews their opinion right away. I think the word porn is used by people to scare people away from reading or watching something to fit within their definition. Imagine saying a work on coffee break that I read a story on the weekend, and someone piped up and said it was porn. You would immediately be in a defensive position, trying to justify that you don't read porn. Now as far as what is written here, I don't personally consider any of it porn. For that we can access Nifty. I would consider most of what I've read as just "gay fiction". After all, isn't that what it is? Steve
  7. Well CJ, the old adage goes a picture is worth a thousand words, so I guess you have two options: First being to go back and edit out any pictures and second being to get those hooves typing away. (BTW , you mentioned earlier about doing your own research on the FFFF, and I was wondering if you had two or four flipflops on, and how did you get the toe thingy through your hooves?) Graeme, I'm sure one picture of Blackheart could get him to reconsider. If not, send him up to Canada, where right now he would fit in with the Calgary Stampede.
  8. O M G !!! Thanks for letting me see the picture, but CJ.... I was extremely upset with Shadowgod for possibly killing off a character that was gorgeous, and a real head turner, and portrayed more than just a "blondie" in life.......Then you say that this is really a picture of the supposedly evil Blackheart !! Yes, notice the angel and not the devil? I think the devil should be definitely reserved for the purely evil ones...CJ . Now your trying to convince me that Blackheart (as pictured above) is the same person as Shadowgod??? If they are the same, how could anyone question the actions and morality of such a beautiful person? CJ , unless you want the wrath of a 48 hour grudge :battleaxe: , hopefully Blackheart is safe and sound! Steve p.s Thanks for posting the pics!
  9. Sorry all, don't want to be a pest Any chance of either posting the actual pictures of muumuu.jpg and blackheart.jpg, or a message with them? Kinda feeling left out on the whole picture thing. Steve
  10. Okay Steve, for posting that I've decided that neither one of us have to change our names . All is forgiven, plus I don't like to hold grudges for more than 48 hours. Now with Flip Flop Furor Fiasco (see, you do educate some of us CJ :graduated: ), or slippers if you prefer, I can personally attest that it is possible to run in them. But...only if they are new. After some age and use, the toe thingy tends to break quiet easily when breaking out into a run. What I didn't understand was as they were driving up Tantulis, it sounds extremely dangerous and a "white knuckle" experience. So, how did Blackheart and the henchmen drive with one hand on the handlebars while the other swinging a bat or swinging chains. Kinda reminds me of Arnie on a motorcycle shooting behind him with a shotgun in Terminator. :mace: Great chapter and I will only give it a 1.5 out of ten on the cliffhanger scale. Hopefully this is a new trait that your going to continue with CJ! Lastly, there was a promise of a chapter on Tuesday. Does this mean that we can expect 34 up then??? Yahoooooo! Steve
  11. Let me tell you what really scares me !!! In the "real" world, Blackheart doesn't seem to have the least bit of hesitance to kill off loved main characters of stories. I guess we don't know what really is going on in his evil head, maybe he did kill someone, maybe he didn't. Either way the key word here is evil. Now in FTL, I am particularly scared that Blackheart may be the same one as in the "real" world. This would mean that Steve and Chris might end up dead, or worse, all of us not knowing about their welfare. Let's hope it is just a mere coincidence that they share the same name. Steve (I'm not changing it, I had it first, )
  12. Interesting chapter, as it has been about 10 years or more since my last visit to Hawaii. It was nice to read of places and locations that I remember from the couple of times to Maui. I do have to say that I too had to stop reading and ponder the use of "flounced" in the story. Just how would you describe a flounce (according to the dictionary it is like a ruffle in a dress)? Is it like a prance, a sashay, a glide? Whatever, I got the point loud and clear, and had a real chuckle out of the word. Now, I take it the boys are camping off the road to Hana right? I didn't realize you could pull over and just camp. It sounds like it is pretty secluded with no one else around. Hmmm, sounds like another camping trip the boys took to a far out of the way, secluded, isolated place. I know the good Sheriff is under indictment and probably can't travel, but where is Eric? Also, I don't ever believe that I have ever been in the outdoors and not been able to see at least some shade of something darker than the surroundings that would indicated where the shore is, but then how long were they doing unmentionable things in the ocean. Let's hope those dolphins aren't the evil snapping kind. Well there is a positive about them being lost out in the ocean! I means they can't go over to Oahu and track down the evil Blackheart
  13. Enjoy the holiday CJ :pickaxe: Maybe we will all wait until your gone to dissect the chapter paragraph by paragraph. Don't worry, it will all be good But, to let you know, might be one of the best chapters yet in my humble opinion! Great Job. Steve
  14. CJ, Jack, or anyone!!! It appears that Jack's pics are not accessible to just us "members". I was wondering if it is a Author, Editor, Moderator thing? I have the same trouble Allie mentioned a while back about a separate page popping up and saying I'm unauthorized to perform this action. Doesn't mater if I'm logged in or not, still the same thing.
  15. Sorry CJ, Nay!!! no sunglasses and he appears to be your white cousin. Newest commercial then click on the goat. BTW, hopefully that isn't the next chapter of FTL in the commercial!!!
  16. wildone

    what are you?

    Viv, This really got me to thinking about me I thought about what of the listed categories would I consider myself and realized that it is not really an easy task. But I thought that maybe you touched on what I came up as a conclusion, that maybe in different situations you fall into a different category. For example: When driving into work (which is retail like you), I would definitely fall into the pessimist category. As being responsible for 155 staff, I only can beat myself up wondering what could go wrong in the upcoming day. Usually a lot of it does happen, so does that make me a realist as well? When actually at work, I guess I portray myself as an Idealist or Realist to others. I try to uphold expectations of myself and also understand that **** happens. Outside of work, I believe that I am an optimist most of the time. I go forward hoping that everything will be okay. Be it family, love life, friends or sports, I feel that I have a positive attitude towards things. Although I even question this, as lets say I'm going out with someone somewhere new, I'm optimistic, but have a pessimistic devil sitting on my left shoulder. As far a faith goes, don't really know where that comes in. I guess I have my beliefs that I don't have any proof to back up. So in summary, I guess I wouldn't be comfortable with any particular label. Isn't variety the spice of life . Anyways, thanks for the thought provoking topic. Steve
  17. CJ, are you being so bold as to suggest that you have made 3 posts and there have been 1000 replies??? Another great chapter !!! I really can't fault Chris for his picture taking skills though. Who hear can say they have taken excellent pictures without the aid of a view finder or being able to look at the screen on a phone? One thing I hate about cell phone pictures is in bright sunlight you can't see the screen, so it is a best guess. More questions are still around and some more seem to arise from this chapter than last. Things such as what caused the house to actually blow up? What about the "thicker than blood" idea? What is behind the wall in the bookstore? What is on the data stick? My guess is the Meth lab operation theory can tie everything together except maybe the relationship thing. Hopefully Steve's parents are doing okay. This might actually make me dislike Eric more than in the past. being the one responsible for causing the strife straining their marriage. Lastly, on the cliffhanger scale I'm going with an even 8 on this chapter! Great chapter CJ!!
  18. Hmmm, I'm a bit confused :wacko: Are you calling us magical, mythical, beautiful people? Or just frauds? I'm going have to think this one over
  19. Now we all know that these 3 guys were probably the 3 most evilest guys to walk the earth. But do we hate all Russians because of Stalin? I don't. Do we hate all Germans because of Hitler? I don't. And do we all hate all Cambodians because of Pol Pot? Once again I don't. When we look at these three examples we have people who followed them, many unwilling, to carry out there wishes. This is where I think CJ is really trying to get across to us about Eric. Maybe we all should hate Eric at little less, and focus on him being influenced, positive or negative, by the evil Blackheart. Correct me if I'm wrong CJ. But then again I'm a bit liberal and also from Canada.
  20. Ah Ha!!! Eureka I missed this clue earlier but now I know that the evil genius behind all of the boys problems could be no other than Blackheart!!! I imagine that he is to blame for all the crap that the boys have been through. I would even say that Eric is not as evil as we all think if he has fallen under the influence, like so many others, of Blackheart. I would venture to say that this Blackheart is evil to the core!!! It wouldn't suprise me if he kills off some characters before the end of the story. Finally, could the answers to all the questions regarding the outcome may be encrypted on the data stick that probably only Blackheart thought he knew? I believe that there is already one too many Blackhearts in this world. Hopefully it is not the same one, as indeed, he is very, very, very evil!!! Now I'm probably going to have nightmares after this revelation.
  21. Actually you are correct in the fact that Hydrogen Sulfide is added to both the gasses. Natural Gas has no smell at all, so the producers add the H2S to it. Actually they advertise that if you smell a "rotten eggs" smell, open some windows, get out of the area, and call the gas company. May be different over in Aus, but here all Natural Gas has the rotten eggs smell. I actually figured that it was that when the car went crashing into the kitchen, a pipe was broken, as most large houses have natural gas stoves instead of electric. But then again, I may be wrong. CJ has mislead us before, cause I've been told he is evil
  22. Okay CJ, you have just gone into the realm of totally unbelievable!! Really, what are the chances of a goat and echidna surviving out in the Arizona desert with all the rattlers and gun toting, trigger happy hunters? I bet they would have been long shot and mounted over a fireplace somewhere. As far as the cliffhanger, on the "official CJames Cliffhanger" scale between 1-10, I believe it came in at a 2.5. Great job, much appreciated The chapter was probably one of the quickest reads start to finish due to the continuous action packed content. BTW, with the statement on the announcement that the alternative chapter name being "House Call", kinda let me know that bad things were going to happen to Sheriff's house. But I'll let Graeme discuss that one with you. One question, usually every chapter gives a clue or two to let us mindlessly conjure up what will happen next. Didn't notice any this chapter. Or did I miss something....again, as you are usually so clear in letting your readers know where you are going next. Lastly, I believe that Mondays should be the new Tuesday, as Tuesday was getting old. Just my vote.
  23. Ah ha!!! Finally things are starting to make sense. Like any great mystery there is always one chapter that makes me think that I have it all figured out. But, more often then not, I'm sooo wrong. This has been one of the best chapters CJ, but I have this funny feeling that indeed you may be leading us further astray. And as far as another cliffhanger........... Hopefully you are NOT going to do like some other authors (left unmentioned) and start killing off any characters. I will have to now re-read the chapter and see what evil you are really up to Thanks for the great chapter Steve
  24. Viv, I'll give you my feelings based on being nothing more than a reader. I am in awe of anyone who can take an idea, develop it and make it into something that anyone really could relate to. Otherwise, I am really amazed by writers!! I tend to read a hot a steamy story like the amazing one that Luc posted, and try to immediately relate it to my life. In some cases, I would say I can relate more to one than another. In the case of a shower scene, it made me think of opportunities I had in the past and did not act on the moment at the time. I always laugh at myself when I drop out of my "zone" and realize what I was doing in my mind. In the shower scene it would probably be more like me approaching a friend from behind and slipping on an unseen bar of soap on the floor, and cracking my head, leaving me unconscious :wacko: . I do often wonder if the author is actually relating a real story from their life, or just creating fiction. Like I said, I am in awe when you can take an idea, or an experience and pull me into the story. If the story is a real life confession, I'm jealous. If it is a work of fiction, I'm jealous. When the author is male (no offense here Viv), I do wonder if that the author is a stud with stories that we would all envy. But in reality I think that bar of soap is on everyones shower floor. As you all probably can tell from your followings, readers read to be entertained. Even though at times you may not think your entertaining us, you are. You provide a form of escape where at the end of a chapter, we just feel a little better about life. So for that, Thanks. Through all that rambling I hope you understand that I do think of some of the above questions, but I don't overanalyse every story or chapter. If I did that I would expect myself to turn in a book report the next morning . So, don't overanalyse your readers and keep doing what your doing. Steve
  25. wildone

    okay so I stole it...

    TEN EMOTIONS. 1. are you missing someone right now?: Yes 2. are you happy? right now? yes and yes 3. are you talking to anyone right now?: no 4. are you bored?: Not right now 5. are you German?: yes, born there, but not a citizen 6 are you Irish?: some in the family tree 7. are you French?: no 8. are you Italian?: no 9. are your parents still married?: Mom just passed in Feb. but to Dad, they are still married in spirit 10. do you like someone right now?: Yes TEN FAVORITES. 1. store: Future Shop 2. flowers: Azalies 3. color: Blue 4. sport: Luv playing Ice Hockey!! 5. mall: West Edmonton Mall 6. movie: Still have to go with Ferris Buhler's Day Off 8. season: Winter. Hockey, hockey, hockey! 9. animal: Medium sized dogs 10. state: I'd say Texas, but California may take it out TEN FACTS. 1. hometown: Lethbridge, AB 2. hair color: Blond 3. Birthday: September 24, 68 4. hair style: Short, not really in any style 5. eye color: Blue 6. best friend: Al 7. mood: Intense at work, Laid back anywhere else 8. skin color: White 9. available: Yes, hopefully not for long 10. left/right-handed: Right TEN THINGS ABOUT YOUR LOVE LIFE. 1. have you ever been in love?: Yes 2. do you believe in love: Yes 3. why did your last relationship fail: We both fell too hard and too fast for each others 4. have you ever been heartbroken: Yes 5. have you ever broken someone's heart?: Yes I think 6. have you ever fallen for one of your best friends: No 7. have you ever liked someone but never told them: Yes 8. are you afraid of commitment: I was, but I'm ready now 9. has someone ever kissed your hand: Yes 10. have you ever had a secret admirer: Yes, then had to clue her in TEN THINGS: THIS OR THAT. 1. love or trust: Both 2. hard liquor or beer: Both, depending on the mood 3. night or day: Night 4. one night stands or relationships: Relationships 5. television or internet: Both 6. pepsi or coke?: Diet Coke 7. wild night out or romantic night in: Romantic night in 8. chocolate or vanilla: Chocolate 9. phone or in person: In person 10. Love or Lust: Love TEN HAVE Y0U EVER 1. have you ever been caught sneaking out?: Yep 2. have you ever skinny dipped: Yep 3. have you ever done something you regret: Yep 4. have you ever sky dived: No 5. have you ever been on a house boat: No 6. have you ever finished an entire jaw breaker: No, believe it or not, never had one 7. have you ever liked someone so badly it hurt?: Yep 9. have you ever danced in the rain?: No 10. have you ever had a hang over?: Yep WHO 1. Who was the last person you laughed with? Rick 2. Who can cheer you up instantly?:Anyone with a smile 3. Who do you think will make you smile tomorrow: All those happy, smiley people out there 4. Who is making the world a more terrible place to live in: Close minded people 5. Who dominates the family: My lil' Sis 6. Who is like a brother/sister to you: Al 7. Who is the youngest person you know: Lil' sis is due in the next few days 9. Who needs to chill: My older sis WHAT 1. What do you hope will happen next week: I will win the Lotto 2. What would you name a newborn puppy: Strange question, but Taylor is coming to mind 3. What relaxes you: Excercise 4. What is the most difficult decision you had to make: Telling the whole truth to Mom 6. What's your style: Relaxed 7. What is your number one priority: I'd hate to admit, but work at the moment 8. What is the worst movie you've ever seen: Attack of The Killer Tomatoes 9. What do you want for Christmas: World peace WHEN 1. When is it a good time to be truthful: Always 2. When was your last break-up: A couple of years ago 3. When do you take time for yourself: On my days off 4. When is the next time you'll see your best friend: Next Wednesday 5. When will world hunger end: When we stop putting so much value in money 6. When was your last bad hair day: yesterday 7. When do you usually take a shower: Morning 8. When are you going to go on your next date: Hopefully next weekend 9. When will emo kids grow up: ?? 10. When did you first learn about sex: Seven, I was young WHY 1. Why do you feel the way you do right now: Cause I'm me 2.Why are teenagers becoming more apathetic: Cause our parents gave us everything they didn't have, now we're doing it twofold 3. Why did you say the meanest thing you've ever said: Ugh, I'll admit I said one racial slur when I was eleven 4. Why can't perfection exist: Cause we can't get our reflection out of the mirror 5. Why is gay marriage illegal: Yeah Canada 6. Why, in your opinion, are some countries more privileged than others: Cause we put so much value in the dollar 7. Why is your father the way he is: Stubborness from his dad, then traveled the world and came up with Sterotypes 8. Why do bad things feel so good: Cause it is nice to know you don't always have to be in control 9. Why would you hurt someone, Really don't know if I would 10. Why did you go online today: To see if my favourite writers posted today: Viv, Shadowgod, C. James, Jack Frost SPILL YOUR GUTS Q. First thing you did this morning?: Took a shower Q. The last thing you ate?: BBQ'd Cheesburger Q. What's something you look forward to most in the next 6 weeks?: Mother's Day and my sister's baby Q. What's annoying you right now?: The evening news Q. What's the last movie you saw?: Wild Hogs Q. Do you believe in long distance relationships?: Not really Q Where is the last place you went?: Went to Waterton National Park today. Q: Who is the last person you called?: Rick Q: Been cheated on?: Unfortunately yes Q: Do you think that someone is thinking about you right now?: probably not Q: Do you wish on stars?: Yep Q: Did it work?: No, but I wish pretty extravagant Q: Do you untie your shoes every time you take them off?: Yes Q: When did you last cry?: Driving today listening to a song that Mom luved: 100 Years by Five for Fighting Q: Do you like your handwriting?: Printing yes, Writing No Q: Are you a friendly person?: Mostly Q: Are you keeping a secret from the world?: Not anymore Q: Who's bed did you sleep in last night?: Mine Q: What color shirt are you wearing?: Light Blue Q: Do you have any pets?: No Q: What is the color of your bedsheets?: Green Q: What were you doing at 9 last night?: ***Censored*** Q: Last person you talked to: My Dad Q: When is the last time you saw your dad?: At mom's funeral, but going out to see him next week Q: Look to your left: Damn, my desktop computer, explain why I have my laptop 4 feet away Q: Ever cried yourself to sleep?: Yes Q: Ever cried on your friends shoulder?: No Q: Song that makes you cry?: Five for Fighting, 100 Years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpuYpqRfyuU Q: Are you a normally happy person?: Yes 1. Smoked a cigarette: yes 2. Smoked a cigar: yes 3. Drank so much you threw up: yes 4. Had feelings for someone who didn't have them back: Yes 5. Been arrested: No 6. Gone on a blind date: No 7. Skipped school: Yes 8. Seen someone die: yes 9. Been to Canada: Um, i guess yes 10. Been to Mexico: No 11. Been on a plane: Yes 12. Been lost: Yes 13. Been on the opposite side of the country: No 14. Swam in the ocean: Yes 15. Felt like dying: yes 17. Played cops and robbers: Yes 18. Recently colored with crayons: Yes 19. Sang karaoke: yes 20. Paid for a meal with only coins: Yes 21. Done something you told yourself you wouldn't: Yes 22. Made prank phone calls: Yes 23. Laughed until some kind of beverage came out of your nose: yes 24. Caught a snowflake on your tongue: Yes 26. Written a letter to Santa Clause: Yes 27. Been kissed under the mistletoe: No 29. Blown bubbles: Yes 30. Made a bonfire on the beach: Yes 31. Crashed a party: No 32. Gone roller-skating: yes Personal questions to know you better: 1. Nicknames? Steveo, Wildman, Wildcat 2. Mother's name? Vicki 3. What is your favorite drink? Diet Coke with Lime 4. Tattoos? No 5. Body piercing? No 6. How much do you love your job? Not a good question right now, as I'm extremely frustrated with work right now 7. Birthplace: Isherlone, (West)Germany 8. Favorite vacation spot? Disneyland, Damn it is good to be a kid again!! Hopefully be back in November! 9. Ever been to Africa? No 10. Ever eaten cookies for dinner? I'm sure 11. Ever been on TV? Yes, quite a few times 12. Ever stole any traffic signs? Personally No, but been with someone who did, I'm innocent 13. Ever been in a car accident? Yes 14. Was it your fault? One no, the other one I still disagree with the cops' interpretation 15. 2 doors or 4? 2 on the truck, and 4 on the car 16. Favorite salad dressing? Blue cheese 17. Favorite pie? Homemade Cherry 18. Favorite number? 9, for some reason 20. Favorite holiday? Canada Day, July 1st, usually up at the lake 21. Favorite dessert? Chocolate Banana Brownie Ice Cream 22. Favorite food? Seafood, just don't get the fresh stuff out here on the prairie 23. Favorite day of the week? Any day off from work 24. Favorite brand of body soap? Ivory 25. Favorite TV show? NCIS 26. Favorite Toothpaste? Crest 27. Where do you see yourself in 10 years? Hopefully in a long term relationship 28. What do you do when you are bored? Do Something, Anything Well I don't usually do these, but I was bored (see question 28 above)
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