Daisy

thanks, though I didn't mind if nobody posted . It doesn't have to be your actual location, I checked. for example you could just put e.g. Brazil. and it would locate you in the centre of there. And most people have their location already in their profile and alongside each post. Just putting them on a map would easily show how many people there are say in europe versus america or where ever. . and I'm a geographer - it's my natural instinct .

I was looking at another site someone recommended and on it they had a map of all the readers who filled in where they lived. I thought it was quite cool, and it would be fab to see a pictorial representation of where everyone comes from. What do you think? Could this be done at GA? would you want it to be? I have no idea whether you'd be able to do it here, but I think it would be great. the map is at the bottom of this linked page. http://www.marquesate.org/special-forces.html but the people who make the map are called Platial: http://platial.com/mapmaker celia edit: or maybe it is frappr. not sure how it actually works. http://platial.com/frappr

I like David Mitchell. I'm not sure whether non-UK people will know him, he's a comedian and known for the Peep Show. He has a column with the Guardian atm. This is his latest about Smart televisions, and other things including Europe and Tony Blair . http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/01/david-mitchell-europe-tony-blair Enjoy

I was on the guardian website and saw this article. It is about gay dad's adopting, it's a few profiles of people and their experiences. Enjoy http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/oct/25/gay-adoption-fathers-parenting

22 oC is comfortable 38 oC is too hot usually -12 oC is too cold 9 oC I put as not too bad, but it depends. 0 oC - too cold. It depends on the weather so that can change. if it is really hot but there is a breeze that's better. if it is 9oC and it's raining, I hate it. it makes things miserable having to work and moveabout in the wet and the cold. same with 0oC - snow can be nice, but if it persists then I don't like it. a little bit of fresh cold can be nice. but overall I don't like the hassle it brings of having to wear lots of layers and make sure you keep dry. etc. prefer warm weather, but not scorching hot.

hmmm certainly not poetry. actually at my dads I don't like walking alone in the countryside, for some reason it can be a bit creepy. with friends not so bad though

I do see the attraction of there being no-one around. at my dad's it is great to be able to walk places - by the river etc. and it all reminds me of when I was little and the games we would make up in various spots. my dad has only just got broadband now though. and even that is very very very slow and has problems. it would drive me crazy to have that problem full-time. But then maybe, I need to detox from the internet so it wouldn't be that bad an idea. Where my mum lives in the suburbs we live on a beautiful coastline. usually when you go down there you will see dogwalkers, so you are not completely alone, and if it is a beautiful summers day then it can get very busy. But it is gorgeous and you could get lost there as well. it's a national trust park with sand-dunes, pine-trees and all sorts and stretches on and on. if I want to be alone or to think I go there. and take my dog as well . I watched that latest asteroid or comet shower (forgotten what it technically was) there with my friends.

i find it amusing the 2 cents thing. it goes with the sort of exchange rate . here in the UK people will say "a penny for your thoughts". yeah I think visiting sounds good. but maybe that will change as I get older. I certainly like the places where it's a town but surrounded by countryside, that's very lovely, a mixture of both. That's what my uni was like. I'm not that much of a fan of cold and wet weather, which was what a lot of the times was like growing up. the summers were fine, but the winters could be horrible and we had to work out in them. I think it's an interesting mix about the ignorant thing. I think definitely from my experience a lot of my peers there were very um, I don't know how to be polite. but rough maybe. but then you'd also get that one of my next door neighbours in our hamlet was a gay couple. But then they really weren't country folk, they were from London and France, and they still commute sort of. But they're integrated into the community stuff. but the community stuff is just full of petty stuff and arguments. you know one of the guys in the valley is still a bachelor, he's a farmer and he has no running water (well, a pump, and a stream) and no electricity or gas or anything. I think he does push to a radio though and maybe camper gas. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread with negative stuff . your turn now with all the positives. celia

I've lived in the countryside while I was growing up. I'm in the suburbs atm, and have lived in medium cities too. the neighbours weren't all that helpful. some were. some were downright crazy. with no car as a young teenager it was pretty isolating. we were reliant on our parents and they were often at work. but I did love playing outside and we got up to allsorts. and we had horses and lots of land to let them go out. that was the good side. and it's very pretty. I want to live in the city now though, I want choices and more things to do and people to meet. some of the people in the country were pretty messed up. and I suppose in america you could call some of them hics? and when I go back you kind of have to wonder about some of them, they haven't seen anything, and they are stuck there with poor education and poor opportunities surrounded by people who have such weird opinions, and well look awful and are messed up, drugs, alcohol etc etc? in surroundings which are so rundown, but that's all they've known. I'm not saying all the countryside is like that; just that is my impression of going back not so long ago. some of them are trapped. there are definitely great things to the countryside, I can definitely see why you love it. ---ohhh the lambs, and the daffodils. and the snow (at times). - would say trying to dodge the bull on the walk from the school bus to home wasn't pleasant though.

wow, very detailed response W.L. I haven't really looked into it all that much. as much as I find it fasinating, physics was my 2nd worst subject at school after languages. i found it a bit difficult to understand. that formula very well may be it . it's one of the few things I remember from those classes.

Looking forward to it. people are more complex than just looking for say money and a nice house, even if they are really concerned about that. I'm just thinking about people I know. granger has duty but there are a lot of bits about his personality other than that or that feed off of it. --and you wrote how much she liked the sex .

yeah, i know it's far off. it just amazes me every time that I see some astronomy news because science like that seems incredible to me, and they seem to be so far ahead in their understanding and research than I think they are in my day to day life.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8314581.stm I remember in my physics class at school being amazed that I was being taught that there was a formula that was being used to estimate the number of planets in the universe, and the number of planets with life on them. and the numbers were Very high. seems like we are proving that right. apparently they are going to try and focus on the 'habitable' zone round stars to try and I suppose find life. then the temps won't be too hot and there maybe water.

and more good news http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/19/jan-moir-complain-stephen-gately 21,000 have complained over the weekend. that is apparently more complaints than the PCC (press complaints commission) has had in 5 years total! so the daily mail editor himself is in a tricky position.

I think you are all writing off the women a bit too much here though she certainly has got ambition and has spotted what will work well. and really, why would she want to be freddie's wife apart from what you just said above. I thought he wasn't all that nice. and granger is. and freddie's based in london too so she would have had to be around him all the time. but other than that; she may have ambition that doesn't mean she doesn't have other wants and needs that can be overlooked by saying that's all she was looking out for.

hey Just started reading this one as well. Now, I've just got to the bit where Billy has died! and that conversation about losing all bestfriends. and I know the rumours about Jeff. now Mark, really, I can understand all the rage now !!!!!

American I think

I hope you like it, the show certainly isn't to everyone's taste. I checked and he's on holiday at the moment so you'll have to wait I presume until next week to hear him instead of his replacement. Glad you managed to ease into the office . Hope things are going well. celia

One of the mirrors for nifty has a search function that may help a little, also not everyone is a "prolific" author : http://www.freegaysex.com/nifty/index.html

she's already having to spend her life alone. if she has sex with anyone there is the threat of pregnancy which will rumble her, as well of general scandal. and Granger isn't there for her. whereas he has got multiple lovers.

quick addition: my stepmum's brother died in his mid30's from this as well. a sudden irregular heartbeat while he was driving on the motorway. Now the whole family has been screened. It is rare, but still affects loads of people.

I would add to this though, that toxicology reports aren't back yet. I don't know the absolute findings of the autopsy. but there are more potential reasons than an undiagnosed heart condition. there are other reasons why the heart could have stopped or been irregular or whatever. toxins abuse could be one of them. except of course testimony from those there that there wasn't, which I don't know in full. (light use of cannabis) but again as I say, I don't know what the autopsy actually was other than that it was the lung being filled with fluid. the coroner may have stated other things which they knew meant it was unlikely it was drugs but something else even without the toxicology report which made them confident it was natural (rather than substance related). but obviously they were convinced it wasn't substance, so must believe. I expect the toxicology when it does arrive will show them to be correct, and put that lady to shame again for speculating. celia

There is this as well. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/16/stephen-gately-jan-moir-complaints Though, I don't like Nestle at all for their other corrupt practices. BT and National Express didn't actively pull their advertising. but it didn't matter overall as the Daily Mail removed all ad's as it got heated. looks like that's maybe why you couldn't get on the website... woo, to people power, and that of twitter. the power of complaining and flooding their desks with work.

at least Calvert's alive and improving . so far. he'll find it unfair and probably won't cope well with it. I don't know whether Caroline will warm to him now; she may actually be jealous now that the idea is out there. I've come across someone with one ball before, it is slightly odd but only unusual. He lives in Sarajevo and I think it was from some sort of accident in the war/siege there. He didn't seem affected at all, confidence wise . Not that I actually went that far with him, hardly anywhere. He was a great person, and had such amazing, and sad, stories to tell.

That's my sister then, and I'm more likely to go visit her. I was probably around the corner from it numerous times a month ago while I was there helping her sell her business. I take it you've been there. Sadly my history really is lacking for that period, my schools really did let me down. we never studied it at all. or maybe I was just unlucky. all we ever seemed to study was the damned Tudors. but I do know the famous landmarks in London , been there many times. Have you been to the war museum in london? I went when I was younger but it was amazing, I bet they've got loads there that would interest you. My mum and dad used to drag us round museums and the like all the time when we were younger, but I've not really done that much since then (apart from when I was in europe), so I should probably force myself to start going again, there are loads of amazing stuff around me, plenty of things worth visiting more than once. thanks for the advice, it's appreciated.