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Everything posted by hh5
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What the diff between mild and regular and full blown? but this article isn't comprehensive about him
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oh u mean the movie x-mass song that the singer tried to do a bad job but became the #1 song (calling it solid gold shit)
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1995 would be the clinton era babies ... rather than the 1980 reagan era babies ... earlier would have been the carter country era babies 1980 there be disco ... aids ... reaganomics ... star wars ... the russian scare of a nuclear strike against the usa the end of the wall 1990's be clinton saxaphone monica lewenski doogie howser etc
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it appears its possible here is an article trying to diagnose the Lanza ... it does support the theory to having multiple disorders thus this is the lesson of questioning the news and the facts ... thus leading to other ideas from our discussion its not an attack on aspergers nor about weapons ... perhaps its the perfect storm that lead to one of many massacres Lanza scored the #2 position - 29 ... compared to the 32 in Virginia tech in 2007
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you're explaining things very well ... perhaps its like being an alien or an android that can not understand the complex human emotions ... but for humans its a disability or disorder. Yes, this dialog is leading me to understand aspergers is unlikely to be the reason. Again I am not really pushing that as the main reason ... I am just questioning the possibilities I bet the experts are baffled by all this. The evidence is slowly explaining who this person is. It be great to hear someone else explanation on who this person is after they read the many articles. Is it possible for someone to have a combination other disorder or disability ... like a fruit punch mix ? as you mention ASD or not ... it seemed that pre-meditated violence could be possible he did make a step out of many in that direction according to an article the reality is that no one would ever know he has aspergers unless its indicated on his drivers licence. I don't know of how many parents who would have their children with disability take up a dangerous hobby. That doesn't make sense ... even if the person can partially understand the respect for a given hobby, I coming from the understanding we only get people with disabilities or disorders involved in the lease dangerous hobbies.
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@NotNoNever I'm confused about what u said about empathy ... isn't empathy the ability to understand how ones action would affect others. are indicating like "visual empathy" ... like if an aspie saw a person upset for missing the bus ... the aspie would not be able to figure out about the visual emotion ... and connect that with the bus leaving the bus stop ... I know this is a poor example ... Thanks for your agreement to graeme insight to a possible other issue ... its only a theory since there is no real hard evidence to back it up ... the many articles now available seems to share possible contributory issues ... * 2009 divorce * quitting college at age 16 * interest in the unspeakable hobby * dropping of other hobbies certainly more investigation will uncovered things like motives, what signs to look for, what happen in the months prior to this event.
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thanks for the info
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FoxNews details of the events of last friday There was enough magazines to shoot at least 100 bullets. Pre-massacre info
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it didn't happen to your family but it did happen to this family and the 27 its a matter of keeping temptation out of the equation luck can run out and it did with this family the 20yo is not a normal adult ... people knew he was a danger to himself ... but the surprise he was a danger to others Did they know he had access to guns? if you read the chicago case the 15yo picked up a knife and got shot for it how you wish to keep weapons in your household is your own responsibility but when the day god forbids someone uses the weapons that belongs to you irresponsibly that should have been secured ... then you will think differently the mother of the 20 yo ... doesn't have that choice ... she's dead with a few bullet holes .. she was the first to go So you taught your family to respect guns and so did Nancy Lanza who taught her family too. The difference is quite clear ... temptation won ... bang bang bang bang by her son A non-zero statistic is enough to outrage the nation ... even Harry Reid
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@Graeme - Thanks, it helps. Yeah, people will blame something. But, understanding these things is another story. I rather look into what happen and understand the various issues.
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LOL ROFL Very true!! but that's the gamble
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the police is sort of free to take normal to delicate action depending upon their judgement call that may not always agree with the public its not intentional sometimes ... but the public forces the police to do an internal investigation I presume the intentional you mean in terms of doing something wrong in the situation that has consequences with public relations A good question is what if the CT shooter was misdiagnosed with his autism ... that he had a mix of issues ,, since the sense of many people say its unlike for an aspergers to act in this way.
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This is a share from someone who has an 11yo autistic son We still need to hear from someone who has a teen who's a handful to handle ... whats ATypical ... what society needs to educate everyone about prevention in every way
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@mikeL thanks for the reply i think that word "deliberately" explains the actions of the illinois police case I've shared above
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First question, do you have a lot of experience in working with people with aspergers? If not, you could be making generalizations too. The police and doctors will be looking into case very closely but of course they don't want the public to panic about people with aspergers. In 60min, the police said they will be examining this case for years to come. Its going to take time to examine about what events truly happen. Coming up with the right questions and theories will be very hard. The press will be interested to inform the public as its news worthy to keep them in business The public will be commenting left and right ... making harsh comments ... ranging from all kinds of emotional response to the crime in the face of keeping their own children safe. we can not stop them ... we can just hope people don't take the wrong actions with people with disabilities This is the price we all pay in free speech ... we all have to get use to this attitude of the public It can be a source of questions to ask ... and we can only provide the best answers to understand the generalities and the specifics of the case People will definitely question gun control. They will theorized that the mother didn't safe keep her guns well. They will also say bad things about the mother without understanding that she was very giving of herself to the public and cared for her child greatly, People will think that maybe someone convinced the 20yo to do this crime? etc Here is a different case It shows that agitation is a problem element ... there can be cases where the teen is too much to be handled ... it could be the result of poor care ,,, by the doctor, social workers, police, and the parents ... right things with negative outcomes for the CT 20 yo ... we don't know how he took to his peers or other people who may have tormented him during the years. we don't know the history of his care ... but we will learn more as the media probes in this towns lives about the family We should realize that what will be examined by the experts is what is atypical but the public is cautioned in the typical ... not to take extreme actions. lol, to not impede an investigation, so in months or years ... a doco will explain everything ... and possibly what we discuss here will be clarified later
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I was going to say they discovered NOAH's BALLS!! I dunno what kind of warranties it has ,,, but its made in china and it doesn't come with gerbals
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@james thanks for the reply that seems to concur with the 20yo having severe interpersonal problems in high school but it doesn't explain why he shot up an elementary school can people with aspergers plot revenge or violence?
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I doubt murder on the titanic video game will be a hit compared to Halo
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UPDATE: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57559311/costa-concordia-salvaging-a-shipwreck/ They won't decided not to refloat the ship during summer 2012 but will do it in 2013 They will build a platform to prevent the ship from rolling into sea They will attach many giant metal box along the sides of the ship in efforts to refloat rather than dynamite the ship because its a nature preserve http://www.ecology.com/2012/06/19/costa-concordia-salvage-operation-begins/ This is going to be exciting to see on TV ... RAISE THE CONCORDIA!! (its twice the size of titanic!!)
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Sorry to find out about the shooting; 60 min said that initial reports was totally incorrect They clarified that the 20yo had Aspergers and the mother has a gun hobby He's home schooled since he's having social problems in school The 20yo shot the mother and went to an elementary school and done the violence 60 min reports there is no link between Aspergers and violence ... that people with aspergers are usually victims rather than perpetrators They also said generally the pattern to plot violence is known months before it would occur Good question is if the mother did keep her guns safely locked; perhaps the 20yo knew how to gain access my brother says the gun loving people tend to not keep their guns safely locked ... thus we get these violent occurance happening The weird thing to hear LOCKDOWN ... one thinks gates are automatically closing by the press of a button in reality its the doors of each class room and every part of the building are being locked up manually it doesn't sound like that's enough to stop gunman from shooting the lock off it sounds like its a petty solution to not have security at every school we would assume the police will quickly respond this occurance is in a small town ... perhaps looking at the signs of this to happen ... no one saw it coming I wonder if any one saw the signs before the mall shooting during Dark Knight Rises release the responses from any gov official doesn't seem to prevent the columbine type violence from happening Can any one explain why aspergers is not violent? or why CT is possibly a rare case compared to the mall shooting?
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I love the irony of this song, do u see it?
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WL I think u will make a killin on a twinkie shortage
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"time for a threesome"
