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  1. its ER ... mobile
  2. I saw it two months ago but I found something funnier
  3. http://youtu.be/4OfGrpGD9pg at 1:35 would this be a classic reaction to being pee on??? How would you describe Zac family reaction?
  4. i've always ate snails Chinese style when i was a teen whats the french style like? where the gorilla erect?
  5. Wow the 2nd eruptions in the americas Will this erupt?
  6. i wonder if we will have dad n bf to the rescue? they not been doing anything handy n gonzales ???
  7. is Tom hanky glowing?
  8. There's quite an argument on whether the bus is street legal in NJ The bus has two dance floors that is operated by one attendant One things clear we don't know what the parents thought about what staffing\chaperoning they were going to get their teens. I wondered if they understood its wise to have at least two ppl to watch over 70 teens. The bus company is starting to defend its position They spoke their thoughts about permitting ... gosh ... we have to wait for the results of NJ investigation and what charges they will file. It looks like that bus height controller was in the up position. Not that it matters with the accident but it matters with state height regulations. If it were down then the bus would have been height compliant. NJ will probably lean towards that the bus was not permitted. kotary didn't mention that their NY permit were expiring at midnight like Snow Whites carriage. I bet he expected that the bus be back at their company before it would be caught in violation.
  9. http://www.txchnolog...um-from-the-sea what happen to the other 6 of them?
  10. Prince Harry Heads to War in Afghanistan - his royal jewels _____ _____
  11. wow could he qualify for the Olympics or is there a risk compare to Pistorius?
  12. As far as I heard in the Special Olympics ... every one is a winner ... not sure about paralympics I've seen a scene where a regular guy was prejudice about it and was challenged to play basketball using a wheelchair ... its not easy at all Ever ran a mile against a blind man and lost? Its funny ... but what if the regularly guy has a health problem ... then it was a fair race
  13. doing stupid things => heat exhaustion and hypoxia after rigorous activity (for example) to exacerbate => Add various Stimulants to impair judgement All you need is the the conditions to make it happen and anyone can be affected given the right conditions Minors, the Elderly, and the Disabled are extremely susceptible which is why proper Supervision is important For the moment Providers and Consumers of the service will have to rethink of how to prevent these conditions Yes, it would happen again when we allow it to happen again or when we don't have sufficient safeguards in place or when we didn't follow procedures or when we didn't use instinct or when we didn't think for others There are many examples in history that are subject to a lot of debates ... which is why we develop safe guards to prevent it ... but those who overlook those safe guards are subject to its many blessings ... even that is subject to debate The nature of accidents is always subject to debate ... preventable and unpreventable LOL, now that this event has caught your attention ... time to go insure your love ones ... insurers love to make money on risks that people think will happen ... they don't want to insure risks that will happen ... no way to make money
  14. It makes you wonder who got paid off to issue a special permit. The bus size is illegal in NY\NJ But having DOT certs it makes it legal for interstate travel, confusing
  15. lol i never realize so much fantasy here
  16. Can the guys survive a pacific tsunami?
  17. if she got this madd would Trevor n Shane stand the chance?
  18. well more news The accident is systemic .. one thing lead to another * We really don't know the kind of chat the monitor had with the Teens about the heat ... * We don't know if the teens complaint directly to the driver * They been on the road for 0:45 to 1:45 * some time during the ride and the dancing the AC started to not work ... * what was the monitor and driver doing before the hatch argument? * There are digital temperature gauges .. the driver would have also felt the heat as well .. he would be uncomfortable because it was the whole bus was hot I am sure the investigation will look at the events .. if the AC worked then the minor would not take his own initiative to open the hatch ... take charge of the situation in his own way .. mischievous may have not been the motive ... impatience .. dissatisfaction of the service perhaps its kinda of an argument between the teens n the monitor about opening the hatch to vent the heat ... you have to open the hatch all the way ... it won't stay open by releasing the latch ... it means your arm and part of your head is expose .. but at the same time the hatch was under the overpass ... so the accident occurred ... the minor assume it was clear .. it was not just curiosity .. it was to solve the AC heat issue .. we didn't hear from the drivers POV about the AC n heat. We don't know if the monitor said to the minor like "leave the hatch alone and I will talk to the driver to solve the problem. do you hear me?" People react to heat exhaustion differently and people react to complaints differently People act rashly and don't listen ... people can be argumentative the monitor was in the middle of an ugly situation We don't know what the driver decided to do about the heat and when it started to get noticeable .. I bet he didn't want to pull over the bus in peak traffic but he should have ... and perhaps the situation it would have not lead to the accident. The ppl are only reacting to the action of the minor but not realize the AC and heat exhaustion was the key player ... I've been on a regular bus\train before ... they pull over at the nearest stop ... unload us ... and call in another bus\train to pick us up ... and then the driver would put the bus\train out of service that would look bad for a luxury charter in peak traffic to wait for bus maintenance to come n fix the AC no announcement made prior to all these symptomatic events On a regular bus .. the driver made announcements ... things could have happen differently and this would be part of the investigation where diff experts will evaluate the accident ... make diff recommendations Here is a similar party bus issue I bet this company didn't want to risk ruining the kids party and wind up with a refund situation. So I bet the investigation will review the bus to see if it was breaking down. This is not the only incident ... others articles say their bus broke down several times before they got to their destination Example General Terms n Conditions - Terms vary from one bus company to another In that other article above their company would only refund 2000 out of 5200 and it took a news channel to get them to refund a total of 3500. This gives an idea about what was up for this party bus trip ... but ... the risk was higher ... rather than the driver taking the right actions during the failing AC, a potential breakdown, an unhealthy hot bus
  19. Actually your parents intention was to keep your head in the car ... they succeeded ... even if u got stung by a bee ... she'll say "see what I mean" Many years ago like in the 20s-50s, nothing would be done by the gov't or business, news sometimes didn't travel very far ... sometimes the article is buried in the paper or the news piece is put out on tv where most ppl aren't watching. The victims could not afford to sue. Zero Accountability .. Zero Change In the 20s-50s nothing will be done, even if the bus company was at fault Today something will be done, Accountability is being argued ... everyone trying to figure out ... what changes comes next Right now its in the hands of parents across the country .. the ball is now in the other parties head (pun) Accountability is not always visible and its a case by case basis The bus company will handled it and we would never know how they handled it with the bus driver or monitor Your parents handled accountability with you and we didn't know about it until this thread Yes the minor has his share of accountability but it was override by party mode and mischievousness It was blatantly obvious and if the monitor had the right training he could have prevented it The monitor didn't see it nor had the instinct or ignored his instinct ... perhaps its not his fault ... but he has his lesson but for the company image ... they may improve their service If it happens next time to him, he now knows he has a choice in the matter I guess those that don't have to be told or taught but saves lives ... we call them unsung Heroes If no one knew meaning no one had reason to warn then yes that was a tragic accident If your parent didn't know your finger hit a bee ever .. its tragic but you still got your head n u got your personal lesson if your parents saw you stick your hand out the window, didn't do anything about it, and your hand got severed ... its not just you who will feel accountability but she would too but you still have your head intact perhaps the monitor sort of feels that way too but the minor isn't his kid ... its less personal We don't know what else this monitor feels about the situation ... until next time he'll lets us know The driver ... we don't know ... There is one case What if you had a child and never had to spank nor discipline because he never got into trouble one day ... he got his head knocked off but everyone blames him more than feels sorry where as you got a child that always tests people to the limits and gets into mischief and everyone yells at him one day ... he got his head knocked off what is people reaction?
  20. Double Decker buses resurface in the USA in 2006 For NYC, they started a pilot program in 2008. Before that it was in the 1978. These buses used to go up and down Fifth Ave for decades prior to the 1953. The reasons in the 78 that they stop using the buses was that they required a lot of maintenance. In the 50s they were discontinued because of the lack of manufacturer and competition. The issue in 2008 with the buses was with the Senior citizens and the disabled. The seats for them are at the back of the bus. That proves to be an extreme inconvenience, I rather say its also a safety issue to expose them to dangerous movements aboard a bus just so they could find the their guarantee seat. I would also think its hard for the driver to see to that a Senior or Disabled would get a seat on-board this kind of bus. NYC saw these buses as a cost saving measure. A DDB from Belgium cost 650K and 900K from a regular bus I believe the article I read is saying. I can't say what happen to the one month trial program since I left NYC in 2006, It is a popular with the tour bus industry and I have not found when they got started in NYC. I do remember the Red double Decker tour buses - I presume that was something like Big Apple Bus tours. I do wonder how much of NYC can withstand the weight of DDB fully loaded with passengers. I wonder if the Belgium made bus was able to handle the extreme conditions in NYC. I suppose it can handle the winter because of the weight. Has any one had a ride in these buses? it must be loads of fun!! I like that seen with Wil Smith dropping in on an open deck DDB in MIB one.
  21. http://gothamist.com...ty_bus_acci.php news really doesn't get the facts straight until you hit another article ... there is diff between a Guard and a bus monitor ... its service ... they don't stick around in one place, they have different duties as needed ranging from picking up trash, serving drinks, warn the hatch, instruct the teens when dancing is over, change the venue of music, try to keep order, work with the bus driver in case of an altercation or emergency this seems to coincide with the comparison of other bus services, there is no authority to enforce if they are attendants. Its still strange that monitor gave an interview. I bet his actions will be scrutinized and the bus company might come down on him like this interview. You can wonder about the bus company when they where planning to put double decker buses into service. Did they ever think about the possibility that they are on the edge of violating safety? Sure the bus fulfilling gov safety standards but those standards are not rated for teen mischief. Did they review the possible mischief issues with a taller bus? Now they have actual experience to add to their 30 years of service that they learn something new from expanding their operations thinking they can profit a lot since not many other bus companies are doing double Decker bus charters. Gosh, they should have had chaperons since they really didn't have a security guard. The bus company may change their policy and instruct chaperons to keep alert against teen mischief. I bet the officer of the company is going to get internally chewed for overlooking teen mischief ... even though they served within gov law just barely when it comes to teens. I wonder if the teens ever raided the bar for booze when the monitor wasn't there. There is evidence they had plans. The over pass is 14ft and the bus is 13ft .. the minor would have to climb over one foot to get his head hit ... perhaps he was trying to look pass the hatch cover ... when his head was struck ... perhaps he could have been trying to take some pictures with his smart phone. the funeral was close casket, 500 people came to the funeral, the grandma was feeling upset and fainted, its mourning mode so its really hard to tell if the parents are going to sue, their using the news as warning to all Because of social media and news, it seems likely the lawyer from "Sweet Hereafter" will come knocking at their door or even come to the funeral, introducing himself, and leaving his calling card. Perhaps requesting to visit them since this is not an outskirt town. I bet local channel five, nine, and eleven news has already barrage the bus company and parents for interviews. The minor is describe as low key, makes me wonder if the parents are the same. This could support the idea of not wanting to pursue a lawsuit unless convince by the lawyer from hell that it wasn't an accident. Proof can come from movies that influence the passion to try mischief. Like in the movie BIG, Tom Hanks popping his head out of the limo roof, other movies doing the same like on Prom night, party night, date night. It gives an idea that this is a city tradition even thought its against the law. But the movies doesn't make that distinction. It influence mischievous behavior to cross lines with a double Decker bus. Personal responsibility is put aside when fun and party mode is the overriding factor with the added flavor of looking for fun to do. Have you not notice at various parties how many people cross the PR line? A news person said Bergen county launch an investigation and charges may be filed. To whom and what charges? If they rule it an accident will no charges will be file? Lots of bureau n org love to launch so many investigations that over lap each other to protect themselves from a lawsuit even if this may be seen as an accident.
  22. They were sniff up for leads but really advertising themselves into real trouble with drug operatives can we doubt its a cia operative?
  23. is it a walk in roll ... lol
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