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Well, I swear sugar pie, I just saw all of this coming.... I so agree that Mary Ellen is like the evil Kathryn from Cruel Intentions, everyone is fooled except those that know her best. I thought that the dynamic between Wade and JP was great and I loved the give and take. It is nice to see someone that really is on the same wave length as JP. Plus, Matt was just perfect in how he helped Wade focus on what was really important. I do think the plan that Wade and JP came up with, will pay dividends in the end. I am a little perturbed at Father Tim, I know you want those that are out front to be some kind of saint but sadly and rarely do those that make a real difference in the world fall into that category. You have to take the bad with the good and just suck it up sometimes... I thought that Wade handled his mother and sister perfectly. You could tell that they were both completely thrown off balance by his behaviour. They both seemed to believe that he would be so overcome with guilt that he would just easily fall into their clutches. I can't wait to see how they regroup and how Wade contends with their next attack. I was really glad to see how excited Beau was in seeing Wade. I think even though they are far apart in distance, they still really care about each other. You can tell that neither Beau nor the Senator really has any idea of what all Elizabeth and Mary Ellen have been up to. I sort of see Wade as a General Anthony McAuliffe being surrounded by Elizabeth and Mary Ellen and just saying "Nuts!"....

Good choice but the song that kept running through my head the whole time I was reading this chapter was "Crash and Burn" by Savage Garden... I am not sure why that popped into my head but it was like it was playing in stereo the whole time I was reading...

I just loved the latest chapter of this story... I swear when Granger and Holmquist were interrupted and it turned out to be Arthur; I just knew how it was going to turn out... Maybe Holmquist can be assigned to assist Arthur on the whole trip, I could even see him staying there with Arthur in the Far East... Sometimes when you find the right person that enjoys the right thing, you just don't want to let them go. I do agree with ricky that Granger will probably be sent to inform the seamen that the bill has passed and been signed and the mutiny can end. It will need a deft touch and we all know Granger has that and some to spare. I doubt we have the Welsh midshipman back, especially as a 1st Lt, which is what Granger really needs. While Robey has many good qualities, a trip like this will need someone with a little more experience. You have to wonder if it wll be a blast from the past, or someone new to the story. I really enjoyed the touches about Granger's presentation to the House of Lords. From what I have read, they seemed to be very accurate. It is those touches that make Mark's stories a cut above the rest. I just can't wait for the voyage to begin...

Granger our hero has sailed the ocean blue Granger our hero serves the King so true Caroline stays home and protects George's back Caroline makes sure that her behaviour now has tact Cavendish has to stay even when he wants to go Cavendish knows that he has but to stay or go Mark must bring forth a new post Mark knows the time is near to post

Well, I think the biggest issue wasn't that Hot Jeff was a little rude to Will, it was the blow to Will's ego. Will was obviously doing a little light flirting and Hot Jeff shot him down with extreme prejudice. Few things in life are as delicate as the male ego, and it is ever so much more fragile during the teen years. Will's reaction was more about the blow to the ego then Jeff being rude, at least I think it was... Can we start just calling him, Jeff??? And are we ever going to get to the real reason that he has an issue with Matt???

Never understood how a gay man can really be considered a vegetarian..... LOL.....

Very interesting.................

Well, the new chapter of Paternity is up and damn, is it good... I loved how Will and Stef bonded and then Will and Ryan bonded even better. I don't think that Will is ever going to be in love with Ryan but like he says in the chapter he loves him, if you don't understand the difference, I can't explain it. Will really comes face to face with some of the things he did and learns a little bit about responsibility. I do think there is something else behind the behaviour of the school, but we might find that out latter. Mark, this was just a great feel good chapter....

Well, the new chapter is up and what a great one. I just love how Mark is developing this story. The way he is mixing the events of the day into the reality of the story is just great. I really like how the Earl called it, Granger will be seen as a sage since we all know that in the end the government does exactly what he said and was printed in the paper. It will make it look like he was more closely alligned with the King than the Lords of the Admiralty were in this instance. The way George handled the situation with Freddie and Davina was well done as well, I guess we can't really kill Davina off now, can we???? I still want to know the issue between Cavendish and Davina. I wonder if Freddie will still have to go off or will they both get to stay in London??? Well, it seems we lost the Welsh midshipman to another ship and Cavendish all but stated he wasn't going to go to keep an eye on the situation at home; so have to wonder who the 1st Lt is going to end up being. I can't see Robey being senior enough to hold onto the position but we will see. I guess really since Granger has played his part in setting the end position of the mutiny at Spithead, he could really go ahead and sail since he has a full crew, at least as soon as he gets all the officers and provisions loaded. I still wonder who his final passenger list will include; will Sir Arthur and Sir Phillip be the passengers or someone else???? I just can't wait...

No, I had to help a niece through this in 2001 and I can promise you even in Texas if you have the money and position, you don't go through a picket line... This is why I don't think that the next narrator will be any of the younger generation. Even Gathan, who is the oldest of the three previously mentioned is really too young to fully understand the implications of what happened that horrible day. I really believe because of the magnitude of what happened, the main narrator will be one of the older generations; either JP, Stef, Claire, Brad or Robbie... I have always advocated that no one in the familes sphere had to be killed or hurt in the events of that day but I do think that Mark A. will have someone perish. I also don't think it will be a peripheral figure like Carullo, or some of the others previously suggested; I think, but hope I am wrong, that it will be a central figure. I also don't think it will be one of the kids that perish, the exception might be JJ, this would explain how someone so brilliant at skating never made the Olympics, Worlds, etc... Mark has never been shy about killing off a major person to further the storyline, remember how 1968 ended, I am still pissed off about that. I think we may see glimpses of how the events affected Gathan, Zack, JJ, Will, Darius, etc... but I think the central theme will be handled by someone older and with more perspective. I knew so many younger family members and friends that were even into their 20's that really couldn't comprehend what the events where that occured for a long time afterward. It just didn't seem real but even after the shock wore off and you realized it was, so many of the younger generation just didn't really understand the totality of what occured. Many of them had viseral reactions that shaped their behaviour and continues to do so for some; but the impact and the full effect didn't sink in for them for years to come. I don't think Claire would have to lose one of her children to be the one that most of the others turned to in a time of need. Claire is already the one that the others listen to in a crisis or fight, even Brad. When you see drama at the family gathering and someone has to step in and keep it on an even keel, most often that is Claire. To some extent JP, Stef, and Isidore are all getting up in years and while there wisdom and knowledge is needed, I think most would turn to someone like Claire that would be able to take on all of the necessary burdens of tragedy without the issues of age and health being called into play like it would with JP, Stef, or Isidore. And no, I don't think that any of them are too old to deal with the issues, but they would all have a harder time of it than someone of Claire's generation. Because of the events that will take place in the next story, I don't think you need a narrator that is having problems with their relationship/work/family/etc; the events that unfold will be all the drama that the next story will need....

I wouldn't think that Raine was pregnate but even if she was, I don't see her having the baby... At that age and with the support they would have, I would think an abortion would be much more likely. In the first place, the daddy is gay; I just can't see her parents being that happy that she was having a gay boy/man's baby and basically becoming a single mom at 14. Yes, I know it happens, but rarely in that social setting. That might be just a little to much drama even for a Mark Arbour storyline. I can see Wade being upset that his sister was beaten but I don't think he would feel guilty at all; he better than most would realize that his mother was the primarly person responsible and would deal with that accordingly. I also agree with methodwriter that Beau in what little we saw him, never gave off the gay/bi vibe at all. He didn't seem to have an issue with Wade being gay but there was nothing to indicate that he leaned that way at all; plus, I am sorry, not everyone can be gay. I know I am going to get into trouble with this, I did last time but I really would like to see Claire as a narrator. She now has Ella, who is seeing Darius; a son, John, who has a girlfriend but seems to sleep with his openly gay cousin quite often; a daughter that we don't really know much about but maybe we can have our first really out lesbian born into the family; and lastly because the next story is really going to be sad and traumatic and who handles that better than a mother, no matter who is hurt or injured. Claire has in some ways always been the strongest of JP's children and in the next story we are going to need all that strength to survive.

Well, was never a Dre fan but the Linkin Park song was inspired....

Yea, a new chapter is up and what can I say, I just love Wade... I really enjoyed all the give and take of this chapter between Wade and Matt and then Wade and David. I have never had therapy, yeah yeah, I know, I should be seeing one now; that being said, I can't say how accurate the give and take between David and Wade is but it comes across as really believable. I really do believe that Wade and Matt are destined to be together in some capacity for the rest of their lives. I can really see them bringing a third person into their relationship and having a true polyamourus relationship or just keeping themselves fully committed and having people on the sides, I think that adding a third person would be really interesting... I see this dominating FBI agent that is assigned to a case they become involved in... LOL.... I know Wade and his sister really aren't close but damn, you don't hit a man's sister and get away with it....

A penny, hell, at least half a crown...

Damn, I never even thought about that... My only deal with that would be that his older brothers son would not be as old as Jeff is in this story. Now maybe Jeff has lied about his age to give himself a few extra years but he seems to be really physically mature and unlike Will most guys don't mature that rapidly... I would think the family would deal with it and accept it, like they have so many other inclusions but why would Jeff have issues with Matt, if he was his cousin??? Is he jealous that Matt found Robbie first or that when Matt was adopted he got such a good home??? It would be an interesting plot twist, but I am not sure that is the reason behind Jeff's behaviour; although it would definitely add to the drama....

The newest chapter of Paternity is up and lots of action, an not just the sex.... I really like how Will handled both the sex with John and the revelations and emotions afterward. He really gave John a way to help him save face and was able to understand where John was coming from in a way I don't think he would have just a few months ago. I have to wonder if JJ isn't starting to have hints of puberty hitting him, his actions in the pool and on the plane seem to be more than just his usual behaviour. I know that in the past Will has helped him with some questions and maybe it is time for Will to think about it and check back with him on this subject. Darius blew it, he will never be able to back Will down again. If Darius wants respect or anything else from Will he will now have to earn it and not just expect it to be handed to him. I still don't get Darius's behaviour. I know he is at his first semester of college but I don't remeber turning into a complete tool when I went of to school... Of course, I was always weird... I really liked Robbie and later Brad's talks with Will. Robbie especially opened up about his family in a way that I don't think he really has with anyone else in any of the stories. I really had forgot that he had an older brother and sister but remeber that from when he was introduced. They were never around and even that first Christmas Frank went back to see them in Claremont but Robbie didn't, if I remember correctly. I wonder if we are going to see something come of that... Brad is finally seeing Will in a new lights, and I think the therapy is doing Brad a world of good, I hope it helps Will with some of his issues. Stef and Will have a relationship so similar to Brad and Stef but maybe not quite so deep. I mean, Will and Stef obviously have great affection and love for each other but Brad almost viewed Stef as a saviour is some ways when he was young and I don't think Will's feeling run that deep. They are much more like a Grandparent/Grandchild relationship with some interesting twist, ie the sex discussions... Of course, this is Stef, so.... I really want to find out what the issue is with Jeff. I really thing there is something more than just Jeff finding Wade really attractive and wanting a relationship with him. I would hate for Jeff to become a Jake type of persona because it would just seem so out of place for what he has gone through and his life experiences... Well, I am sure Mark has it all planned out....

Well, the latest chapter is up and once again, a very well done chapter from our Mr. Arbour. We all understand about life and you have to live yours, we will all just have to take what we can get from your posting schedule... I really like how Granger and Cavendish seem to be able to fall back into such a level of intimacy so quickly with each other. I really can't see Cavendish's father agreeing to his son going off to the Far East considering the last two times he shipped out with Granger, he came home hurt and then lame. I don't doubt that Cavendish could easily handle the position of first Lt, but as the son of a great house, he does have other responsibilities... I can't wait to see how Granger is able to bring the Lords around to understanding that they are going to have to give in on some of the demands of those that are leading the mutiny. This doesn't mean meeting all the demands but as we know from history, the main two demands are met. I have never been an ageist but I do think it is a little out of sorts to have someone in their 70's in charge of such an important fleet. It does seem that their energy level and other considerations would work against that working out well for everyone. I really don't think I could deal with Davina having George's child, that would be just too much.... I am glad that Freddie and Davina have worked out their issues, but I still don't trust either one of them, especially Davina. It just seems to me that anyone that was willing to go to the lengths that she has already will find an excuse to do something else untold....

Well, which Mommy likes Home Depot and which likes Nemain Marcus..... LOL... I really agree that Tiffany seems to be a little soft to be acting in a paternal manner, Jeanine almost comes across more in that vein, except she is of course already the mother figure... I have a wonderful lesbian couple I have known for years and E.H., has taught the kids how to hunt, deal with livestock, build, etc... while her partner did more of the maternal role. I think it is just what one is comfortable with. If your personality fits that, then go with it, always play to your strengths...

Well, can't say I was ever a Lachey fan but I had quite a few fantasies about a three-way with Angel and Spike with me in the middle....

Well, I read the newest chapter and loved it. I have been waiting forever for Carullo and Wade to get together. The scene was everything I could have hoped for and more. I still want a three way with Matt, Wade, and Carullo, that will be really hot... I really liked how Wade handled his conversation with Tiffany about her going back to LA. I thought that was handled in a really intelligent and thoughful manner. I know it doesn't seem popular here, but I for one, hope that Jeanine and Tiffany actually do end up back together. This was a really nice chapter but wait, I see drama ahead....

Do not knock the "Facts of Life", I will come find you and you will regret it.... LOL... For someone that grew up in the late 70's and early 80's the "Facts of Life" was truly a slice of heaven. There were weeks in my freshman and sophmore years of high school that the only thing that got me through them was that show. People make fun of it now, but the acting in general was well above average for most of the shows on TV at the time and the writing and directing were quite good as well. It was show that touched on so many topics that really mattered and handled them with grace and dignity. The show dealt with many issues such as depression, weight loss, AIDS, teenage sexuality, and others in a genuine and honest manner. The show was not just a teen soap opera but a show with real heart...

Maybe when the Nore mutiny starts in about a month or two, Wilcox will be on his way to a ship and be thrown overboard and drown. I am sure the men in the dingy could swear it was an accident...

OMG... this was a great choice for that moment in this story. I really love Sophie B Hawkins, such a soulful voice... Great choice on this one!!!

The new chapter of Paternity is just remakable. It started off with Will realizing how his actions really impacted others and finished off the start of repairs to a lot of relationships except maybe one. I loved the scene with Will going to get into bed wth Brad and Robbie. Robbie handled everything there just perfect. Brad and Robbie gave Will a shoulder to cry on and absolution all at the same time. They helped him realize that no matter what, they will always be there for him. They all realize that they need to keep working on it but that they will make it back together. Will was also very smart in realizing that Brad and Robbie needed to spend some quality time together, alone. His insistence that they drive back to Malibu together was right on the mark. Brad and Will's conversation in the car from the beach house to Escorial was priceless. It was everything that every child wants to be able to have with his/her parent. I like how Brad handled the question of Will having sex with a girl and how honest he was about his own experiences. Will handled the reunion with Jeanine as well as could be expected, with a little help from JJ. I do think Wade and some of the others are a little hard on Jeanine but that is for another story. Will and Tony are just hot together, I can really picture them together in my mind and well, WOW. Will and John may have a hot evening as well, I think this is a relationship that will grow into something really important in Will's life; even as the sex part of it may become less and less important. Brad make his move to start repairing his relationship with Stef and came off so sincere and honest. For long time readers the pricking of the fingers has held true through so much. I am sure thar Robbie and Stef handled or started to handle their issues more off stage. It is Brad that has to make more of a public show of mending his relationship with Stef. I found the ending with Will and Darius going at it very telling. Will more than held his own and his patience in a way that showed his real maturity. Will, with a big assist from JJ, really put Darius in his place over his own behaviour. I don't think we have seen the end of this dynamic and it may go through more than just the end of this story. I do find JJ's support of Will telling as well, I really do believe that to some extent JJ does view Will as maybe the most important person in the family to him, at this point. With Jeanine out of action, it really has been Will that has stepped up to support JJ and make sure others have been there for him. Even with Will being younger than JJ, he has proven to be more mature in some ways and really worked to be there for his brother.

I believe it was Vice Admiral Mann, a Wilcox relative that was yellowed out when he returned with his fleet to England against orders... There were actually two mutinies, the one at Spithead and the one at Nore. History is one of my favorite subjects so I agree everyone should read up on it some. There are a couple of good historical refrences to check and Herman Melville's novel "Billy Budd" was based on the mutiny. In addition, "H.M.S. Defiant" is a British film about a ship that mutinies during this time. It had some truly great acting and was historically accurate in many ways, although not about everything... Alex Guinness played the Captain in the movie and was truly great... Dirk Bogarde played the 1st Lt, it is his behaviour that causes the crew to mutiny; he is really good as a truly evil man...