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God, I loved all the music of the 60's and early 70's... The Petual Clark song was just a perfect fit....

Luckily, Granger has a letter from the King and Privy council giving him extrodinary powers in naming the new or keeping the old governor in place. He may walk into a mess but he will be the one with the real POWER in the situation. I can't wait to see how he chooses to use it.

Well, I said once, long ago in one of the forums that I had to wonder if all of the stories were not just in JP's mind and he was in a coma from the accident coming back from Columbus all those years ago... Okay, on with the latest chapter. I really like how both Will and Brad handled themselves in the latest chapter. I thought they set and held the tone just right. Will seems to be the best in tune with how Jeanine and Hank are but Brad seems to be really trying as well. I don't think you have seen signs of such domestic bliss since JP and Isidore in the condo in Chicago or maybe early at Escorial. It is almost jarring to have two people acting like such a normal couple... I continued to be really suprised by how Tony is acting and how Will is dealing with his behaviour. I can see all kinds of problems ahead some of their own making and others like icebergs just under the service waiting to sink their relationship. Not sure how that is going to turn out, but doubt it will be with a death on the rafting trip like some have suggested... I do see Hurricane Dana causing problems for quite a while, she is going to blow, then take some time and reform, and then blow again...

Really enjoyed this chapter, maybe more so because of the warning... I thought Will and Brad both played their actions just right. It was interesting to see how much more casual Jeanine and Hank are then the rest of the family. Tribeca was really right in ground zero. This is just placing everyone that much closer to the coming danger, bad Mark... Oh wait, what is this, I see Hurricane Dana approaching...

Damn, inflation is a bitch....

I am so not into Team Whomever... I thought the whole chapter was sort of sweet, really not like a Arbour chapter at all... LOL... I just knew the boyfriend was going to be Berto, but then I think most people at least suspected that was coming. I thought that Will handled the situation really well. I was a little suprised that Tony didn't get a little more bent out of shape than he did but that blow up could be one pole dance away... I have to think that at least Tony's mother has some idea that her son might be gay... After all, she did marry and live with Sam; she had to pick up some residual level of gaydar. I am not sure his coming out to his family will be as big of a deal as coming out to the rest of world for him. I am not sure how the situation with Dana will resolve itself. I have trouble seeing it come off smoothly. Plus, it isn't like Tony and Will can run around letting everyone know about the relationship; Tony would be on a one way ticket to sex offender registery if they did... Not sure where you are taking us, Mark, but always there for the ride...

Great choices, the " Hanging by a Moment " was such a perfect fit for that moment...

Great chapter, Berto wasn't much of a suprise but Tony actually admitting that he was gay was... Will and Tony will not be able to be open with anyone outside of the family really. The age difference would make it very dangerous for anyone to know, especially Dana, the legal ramifications for Tony could and would be very stiff. Italian mothers are very perceptive, I have to wonder how much Tony's mother already knows or guesses...

I think it was discussed in Poor Man's Son but I would have to read back to make sure; Stef helped Tony's family after Sam died. He took some life insurance and maybe some money that he and JP supplied and turned it into enough to keep the family very comfortable and secure. I don't know that they have any stock in the Schulter/Crampton business but they have enough money thanks to Stef and JP to be more than taken care of. This was discussed when Stef and Gathan went to visit the family in St Louis. Gathan or someone was wondering about the warm welcome they got, especially Stef in relation to the relationship that JP and Stef both had to Sam and how he died....

All great choices, especially the Andrea Bocelli, he has such a magnificient voice...

God help us, does that make Will the Kristen Stewart of the piece??? Please NO....

I just was completely caught off guard by chapter 4. I was so not ready for Tony to tell Will that he loved him. I am shocked that he was able to tell any man/boy that he loved them in a sexual/romantic way. I think this is going to be the start of a very bumpy ride for both of them. I have never been sure that Will really loved Tony as much as he loved how Tony made him feel because the sex was so good but this is the first time that I can remember Will telling someone that he loved them like this since John. I hate in a way that Hank is going to turn out to be a really nice person probably. It is going to be just that much harder when 9/11 comes around and either she doesn't make it or is impacted by that tragedy. I don't think that any New York City first reponder whether police, fire, ems, or communication walked away that day without be touched by the horror of that day. Great chapter Mark, and I can't wait to see where you take us next...

I guess I am looking at this from a completely different place than either of you... It seems to me that both of you are actually making my point for me. B1ue, my take is that Marie owed Will her silence exactly because she is family. Family is who you involve in situations like that and expect them to keep their mouth shut no matter what, especially this family. Jeremy, you indicate that Menlo is small and for a secret like that to be kept for that long it probably does mean that Will and Kyle WERE being very discreet. For it to take that long in such a small social arena for that to come out no one could have been talking about it. The fact that only when a family member blabbed and was overheard by the third party in the situation was what it took to come out means that more than likely no one knew about it outside of Will, Kyle, Marie, John, and maybe the staff at Escorial... What are the odds that the staff was talking to someone about a member of the family? Plus, how did Marie find out? Do you really think this was something that Will would have told Marie about? It seems that Marie would have had to have done some serious snooping to find out and then it really is her job to keep the information to herself. You know from chapter 1 that Will and Marie had fought about the situation but you really don't know how she found out. I am not sure that Will would have told Marie that he was sleeping with Kyle; it seems more likely that Marie found out Kyle was coming up to see Will twice a week and she made it her business to find out what was going on. I just really believe that especially within the confines of this family and story that family is really everything. It doesn't matter what another family member does you deal with it inside the family only... You never take anything outside the family unless the family as a group makes that decision. Without some insight into why Marie opened her mouth and made sure that Eric knew, we will never really know her motivation. The fact remains it doesn't matter why she did it; she was wrong... I think that Norway was the perfect comparison. I think it showed that no matter what the situation that Claire would be willing to sit down and discuss any situation with Will. She probably isn't going to try and tell him he is right or wrong; but she is going to make sure that he understands all aspects of the situation and knows what he needs to know to make a decision. Claire has always been the one person in the family that is there for everyone else; that is why her daughter's breach of confidence is so much more shocking that if it came from someone else.

Okay, I have two suggestions for chapter 4... When Will is telling Tony about his situation with Kyle, " Follow Me " by Uncle Kracker and then when Tony tells Will he loves him, " Don't Tell Me " by Madonna... What does everyone think???

Damn, I so did not see Tony being at a place that he could tell another man/boy that he loved him in a romantic way. This was a complete suprise to me but in a good way. I have never been sure how Will really felt about Tony, how much of his feeling were being swayed by how outstanding the sex is??? I was really glad to see how Hank was shown in this chapter. This makes it just that much harder to resist her and you know she is being set up to suffer on 09/11. I don't know if she will be one of the people killed but no New York City police officer escaped the pain of that day.

Well, as I have stated before, I don't have as much of an issue with Will's behaviour because I don't think it is his responsibility to keep someone else faithful. I don't think it is ever a good idea to get involved with someone that is in a relationship but that being said, it is up to the person in the relationship to say no... I do think Tim is right about this being more of an ethical or moral issue but I am not sure that Will is trying to do anything other than get his own footing and decide where and what he wants to stand for. I am not sure that Will would take his stand on this to other areas of his life. Any decision that Will makes now will evolve and change as he comes more into himself and the man he will become, it is simply part of growing up and deciding what kind of person you are going to be. My problem with Marie is that I think it is pretty clear that she set out to let Eric know and made sure she was overheard. I don't know if John was a patsy or semi or fully aware of her plan. Marie is starting to come across as a little jealous of Will. I think she sees this guy that is her age that is already fully in control of his life, at least legally. He looks several years older than he is; people think he is hot; and he seems to get away with anything, and this pisses her off. Plus, I am worried about the fact that Will was able to prove in the last chapter that she never seems to apologize for anything she does but makes everyone grovel when they do something she doesn't like. This is a major sign of upcoming problems. I think you are all wrong about Claire. I think that if Marie had come to her and told her about her concerns with Will sleeping with someone that was in a relationship that Claire would have spoken to Will. I don't know how she would have handled it but as you saw in Norway; she has no problem talking to Will about the direction he is taking in his life. I think Claire is fully aware of the limitations that Will has in his relationship with his mother and while she would never try to become his mother would be fully capable of stepping into that role when she felt he needed her.

Mark, Your two series are about the only ones that I faithfully follow online anymore for a variety of reasons. I periodically will say something about those that support you in one of my reviews or post but it is nice to see what each of them do for you on a regular basis... I love to see Sharon's comments in the forum or on the rare times she does a review; and when she responds to something I write, I float around all day like well a fairy... LOL... Jeremy does something that you did mention that I really enjoy and that is the music recommendations for the chapters. I know this is something that is more his deal than yours per se but it is something that I really enjoy and I know it is time consuming but it is greatly appreciated. Sometimes the song he selects for a paticular scene will actually change or alter how I view the scene when I go back to re-read the chapter. To everyone else that helps in whatever capacity a big THANK YOU, without all of the support that each of you gives, Mark would not be able to keep the output level that he does or the level of quality. You are all the BEST...

Mark, we always want a Granger fix; a chapter a day wouldn't be enough for me but I do understand real life does sneak in and cause issues. You have to have your schdedule that fits your needs. We will bitch and moan but wait faithfully while you get us the next chapter of this amazing story...

I am going to cut Hank some slack for the moment. She seems good with Maddy as Will noted plus I think it is hard to like someone that you feel will be dying in a few months... I have to say the idea of Jeanine and Hank going to Rome with Will does bring up several interesting ideas but I have to wonder if any of them would survive... Plus, you know that Will needs some Tony time to work on deciding how he really feels about him. I am not sure that Will is really as into Tony as he thinks he is; the sex is great but is there anything else there??? I hope that we get to see Will and JJ with Alistair. He is one of the more interesting new additions to the CAP series and I would love to see a little more interaction with him...

Really like all the choices that you have picked out... There was a song by a band called Eden's Crush that sort of fit the situation with Will and Hank going at it but damn, I just can't remember the name of it... Great work...

Great chapter and really enjoyed all the wordplay and dancing around that everyone did. I thought Will handled himself really well, maybe better than Brad was doing. I don't know that we can judge Hank yet, this interaction wasn't really enough to swing my opinion one way or the other. She seemed to be really good with Maddy and small children often can sense a person's true behaviour better than adults. If you ever have someone that a small child just hates watch out, they are usually right about them. I think part of the reason that I am having trouble with the idea of really liking or finding anything to like about Hank is that you just know as a New York City police officer that she is the perfect person to kill off on 9/11. It is hard to really want to like someone when you feel like they won't be around more than a few months...

I hate when I agree with Private Tim but Mark has woven a great deal of morality, ethics, and philosophy throughout all of his stories. While this can dovetail into religious area, it doesn't have to. He is also right, both the CAP and the even better Bridgemont series are both works of true literary merit and should be treated as such. I do differ with most of you on Will's behaviour because I think that Will is right. Humans are not biologically designed to be monogamous and that is something that everyone in a committed relationship must work toward. Will is not responsible for helping anyone else be or stay monogamous. If any of the guys that decide to sleep with Will are in relationship with someone else; it is their responsibility to say no to Will and keep their hands off him, not the other way around. I think that Will has demonstrated a great deal of care for other people in numerous ways but staying out of the bed of a guy that wants to sleep with him but is seeing someone else is not something that any fifteen year old is probably capable of. Marie's behaviour bothers me a great deal more than anything Will has done. If there is anything that ties all of the CAP stories together it is the idea that family comes first. I think that Marie really set out to let Eric know and used a conversation with John to accomplish that. I have a feeling that the conversation with Claire that is coming is gonna be electric.

I know it is totally bubble gum rock but I loved that song... It is a great choice for that moment at the dinner table...

I really do believe that Will is right; his job is not to help anyone stay faithful. Humans were not designed biologically to be monogamous and it is something that everyone most work at being if they are in a committed relationship and are suppose to be exclusive. It is up to each person to make that decision and keep it. I agree that Claire must be very upset for her to leave during the meal. Claire has always been about family first and to find out that her daughter and son were airing another family members business in public would be very upsetting for her. Marie is going to have to come down off her high horse or she may be in for some rough times ahead. A cop in New York City, Will and JJ in Europe in early September, and Jeanine and Maddie in New Jersey sounds like a lot of links are already showing up to tie the family to the tragedy. Great chapter and can't wait for the next one...

Okay, I am going to take another point of view on the issue of Will's behaviour. I agree with Will; it is not his job to police the actions of anyone that he is sleeping with. Will can't make Kyle faithful to Eric and it isn't his job to try. I do think that it is better not to see someone that is in a relationship but it isn't your job to keep anyone else on the straight and narrow, so to speak. I am more concerned with the fact that Marie and John were discussing something so private in a venue that allowed them to be overheard; I have to wonder if one of them didn't want the information to come out... Mark is already setting up several people to be in place to be directly involved with the tragedy of that day and the aftermath. Elle is in New York, so Darius might be as well even if they are not together at the moment. Wade and Matt are going back East with Nana, although we don't know exactly why yet or for how long. JJ and Tiffany could be in Bulgaria or elsewhere with skating issues. Will could be in Europe or heading back home around that time... Way to go Mark, let's put everyone in danger... I really like the idea of hearing from several people as narrators during this story. This was an event that truly touched everyone in a different way, why not let that show... I do think that JP is the only must! Great first chapter and can't wait to see where Mark takes us on this ride.