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UD Wants to Start A Law School


My undergrad, University of Delaware, wants to start a law school by 2015.

University of Delaware's Law School Aim

 

 

I can't tell you how bad of an idea I think this is. Delaware's a small state, and it already has a law school, Widner. Delaware's strength is based on the chemical engineering and business program, and I can't see how adding a law school would do anything to enhance the university. Programs are already getting cut- like the journalism major- and I imagine that will only get worse if they go ahead with the idea.

 

The greater Philadelphia metro area is already so saturated with lawyers. And think about it-Penn, Virginia, Georgetown, GW, Villanova, Temple, Rutgers, American, and the NYC schools (NYU, Columbia, Fordham) are all a train ride away. There are so many top-notch law schools in this area that I can't see how a law school at UD would be anything but a third-choice back-up plan. Plus, University of Delaware no longer offers in-state tuition rates, so why would any state resident want to pay 25k a year for a law school program when they could go somewhere established for not that much more money?

 

University of Delaware is ALREADY planning on building a medical campus(allied with Jefferson), an expansion to the football stadium, expansion to the student gym, a new dorm, a new science building, a new dining hall- all within this decade- and now they want to do this? If UD ends up bankrupt I wouldn't be surprised. I just feel bad for the kids going/will go there who are having to pay for all this stuff. If UD experiences an enrollment drop because of the 1990's baby bust, they're going to be SCREWED.

 

 

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TetRefine

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I believe you spelt Widener wrong. :D

 

(sorry, I couldn't help it. :P )

methodwriter85

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Heh. Okay there. I wonder if there's any discussion with Widener about how this could affect the enrollment of their law school, since a UD law school would be so close.

TetRefine

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I'm not really sure. I know they have a pretty good law school for "average" people. It is quite popular I believe. Actually, Joe Biden used to teach a few classes at Widener Law up until he became Vice-President.

methodwriter85

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I think UD wants to aim for something on par with American or UPenn, which is going to be expensive as hell.

TetRefine

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Wait, so UD wants to try and compete with an Ivy League school? Why?

methodwriter85

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Because the president we had from 1990 until 2007 and the current one are filled with delusions of grandeur? Although this one is a little less crazed- he's just shooting to be on par with UVA.

Andrew Q Gordon

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Because the president we had from 1990 until 2007 and the current one are filled with delusions of grandeur? Although this one is a little less crazed- he's just shooting to be on par with UVA.

 

HAHA, that was funny. UVA is possibly better than U Penn in terms of law schools and American in not even a top 20 school last I checked. It is funny UD wants a Law School. Neither Penn State nor Univ of MD have Law Schools. [ Pitt and Temple, both state schools, do have Laws Schools however. In MD, I believe the Univ of MD Baltimore campus has one but not main campus.] I suppose they just want to provide the state with it's 'own' school. Where Widener is a Pennsylvania School whose Law school is in Delaware, UD would be a Delaware school. Maybe they don't like being beholden to other states law school grads.

 

But, building a top tier law school from scratch has got to be rough going. Not only will it cost a bundle to find quality teachers, you then need to fight for students - and if there is no in state tuition incentive, I don't see it happening for a good couple decades. But what do I know.

methodwriter85

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Heh. You may be right. I just remember our current president talking about turning UD into a world-class university, invoking places like UVA. In reality though, we're really more like Penn State or U Maryland- those are our real peers, not UVA.

 

I like your take, Quonus. There is no in-state tuition for grad programs at UD anymore, so they would be leaning towards out-of-state students...which...why would someone from out-of-state want to attend law school in Delaware when there are so many established law schools in the surrounding areas?

 

Someone seriously needs to scale back the plans for UD's next decade. It's staggering to think about what they're currently building/trying to build for the 2010's- a new medical campus affiliated with Jefferson, a new technology business park, a major stadium upgrade including a new athlete training facility, a new science building, a new dorm, a new dining hall, a new three-story campus bookstore, an expanded student fitness center, and now they want to do a law school as well.

 

This could go very, very badly. The massive expansion of the 90's to the mid-2000's of UD was justified by the massive expansion of enrollment made possible by a major increase in college-aged kids. Now that's over with, and for UD to maintain their numbers and expand they need to now aggressively recruit, especially overseas people.

 

Realistically, some of those plans need to be scaled back if they want to do the law school. Which...considering that there's absolutely no job market in that part of the country for law school grads because the market got so oversaturated, I can't imagine there's really a major student demand for a law school. If they really want to do this, the smart way would be to push for international students, but I'm not sure how that could work. Can law degrees work across countries? I really don't know how that works.

 

I just don't know why UD just can't keep funding the programs its best known for- the business and chemical engineering programs- because those are their biggest assets. Not some law school that's going to flounder.

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