paya Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 If there is to be a bisexual menage-a-trois I would more like it to be Granger/Calvert/Caroline. Maybe if Granger and Calvert had included Caroline in a 3-way, things would have gone smoother for the 2 of them?? and now when we know Mark can do threesomes...! Well I said they should talk - but maybe they should f**k instead! 1
Conner Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Maybe if you were in your 40's. The last time you rejected me, you offered solace by saying something like "if you were in your 30's". Now you've moved up to the 40's. My plan is working! 1
Enric Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 ch30: oh my. would he need to sink as low as to have heterosex...? how evilly funnily the americans (of today) are characterized... 'most of them are tories' (that is obviously a synonym for 'republican', or possibly 'asshole'), 'they amount to nothing', 'full of hypocrisy' such an american truth
Enric Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 well i'm a canadian who's probably gona be in an eglo soon enough, fricken snow was here now i can feel it in my bones coming back! -20 C....PFFT!!! We have built in temperature gages.....just don't ask where!! ha I think us canadians are gona skip on the whole "Naked part" as....well...it's cold. I heard from a friend in Moscow that they also have snow today. It seems to me those polar-circle countries resemble one another... Poor little canadians.... (that's a country near alaska, I have heard). perhaps something special to keep nice good-looking canadian boys warm... in their igloos. snigger. Mark, does your igloo have the central heating? in my town, we can expect snow in december, I think.
HappyReader Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 3. I've already started working on the sequel. Yay! More Granger ... coming soon (?) 1
Tiger Posted November 1, 2009 Posted November 1, 2009 Yay! More Granger ... coming soon (?) Did you have any doubt? It's going to be interesting to see what happens. I think the next one will have more battles. I also suspect that it will cover a larger amount of time, which would make it longer. The next logical step after being a captain will be admiral, and there's no way it could happen in a year or two. 1
Mark Arbour Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 Did you have any doubt? It's going to be interesting to see what happens. I think the next one will have more battles. I also suspect that it will cover a larger amount of time, which would make it longer. The next logical step after being a captain will be admiral, and there's no way it could happen in a year or two. Becoming an admiral in the Royal Navy of the era could ONLY happen by way of seniority. Once an officer gets promoted to "Post Captain," his name goes on the "Captain's List". As the Captains above him die, he moves up the list until he ultimately gets promoted to admiral. In this era, that will probably take Granger about 20 years or more from the point when he's promoted to Captain. There was an interim appointment of commodore that could be used for very senior captains. It was similar to commander in that it was a temporary rank, one the captain maintained only as long as he commanded a fleet. That'll be a long way off too.
Enric Posted November 1, 2009 Posted November 1, 2009 Becoming an admiral in the Royal Navy of the era could ONLY happen by way of seniority. Once an officer gets promoted to "Post Captain," his name goes on the "Captain's List". As the Captains above him die, he moves up the list until he ultimately gets promoted to admiral. In this era, that will probably take Granger about 20 years or more from the point when he's promoted to Captain. There was an interim appointment of commodore that could be used for very senior captains. It was similar to commander in that it was a temporary rank, one the captain maintained only as long as he commanded a fleet. That'll be a long way off too. Georgie however *could* sell himself to be mercenary in service of some other country, which country may make him Admiral.... the rules were different in a variety of countries. however, if and when naval adventures for Georgie in the rank of captain are not going to satisfy Mark's authorship for long, then I envision that Georgie will be put to serve diplomacy, as some sort of special envoy to do somethings or others... 1
Tiger Posted November 1, 2009 Posted November 1, 2009 Georgie however *could* sell himself to be mercenary in service of some other country, which country may make him Admiral.... the rules were different in a variety of countries. however, if and when naval adventures for Georgie in the rank of captain are not going to satisfy Mark's authorship for long, then I envision that Georgie will be put to serve diplomacy, as some sort of special envoy to do somethings or others... He would never do that. He is a patriot through and through. It would not suit his character in the least. He is also a humble man. He doesn't even think he'll be a captain yet even with others saying that he will be. 1
Mark Arbour Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 He would never do that. He is a patriot through and through. It would not suit his character in the least. He is also a humble man. He doesn't even think he'll be a captain yet even with others saying that he will be. There is no way that Granger would volunteer to serve in another navy while Britain was at war. If Britain was at peace, then it might be an option for some officers, but not Granger. He's too high on the social scale to run off on an adventure like that. That being said, some officers did do that after the Napoleonic Wars were over. The most notable was Lord Cochrane, who fought for the Greeks (in their struggle to gain independence from the Ottoman Turks) and in Chile (in their struggle to win independence from Spain). Cochrane was also a noble, a Scottish peer, but lower on the social scale than Granger. He also had a tarnished reputation and had actually been drummed out of the navy at the time of his foreign service...the victim of financial scandals ashore.
Enric Posted November 1, 2009 Posted November 1, 2009 There is no way that Granger would volunteer to serve in another navy while Britain was at war. If Britain was at peace, then it might be an option for some officers, but not Granger. He's too high on the social scale to run off on an adventure like that. That being said, some officers did do that after the Napoleonic Wars were over. The most notable was Lord Cochrane, who fought for the Greeks (in their struggle to gain independence from the Ottoman Turks) and in Chile (in their struggle to win independence from Spain). Cochrane was also a noble, a Scottish peer, but lower on the social scale than Granger. He also had a tarnished reputation and had actually been drummed out of the navy at the time of his foreign service...the victim of financial scandals ashore. high social position was in aristocracy of 'ancien regime' not a thing which impeded from serving another country. Remember that the ideology known as natunalism, had not yer put itself thriough. A service somewhere else, was regarded as good experience, for a young man. Proper gentlemen did it only under the permission of their own monarch. Look at the case of Axel Fersen (whom I think be gay, actually): son of one of highest families of sweden, and father was field marshal and member of government. The son served some while in 'royal suedois' unit of the French king.... by a permission of his own monarch, and these countries were more or less allies. When one's own country was at war, military personnel preferably were kept in their own forces (the mechanism: the monarch did not grant further permissions), but at some occasions, persons were loaned to ally governments - who occasionally were in need of some special talent or knowledge or something. Exiled ally governments were frequently in such needy situation: even the english during the napoleonic wars, loaned personnel to help some such. so, Tiger (who obviously approaches these with today's attitudes, not aristocratic 1700s) has interpreted it all wrong, and even Mark (who has some idea of its acceptability), dared not to think enough of it.
Mark Arbour Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 high social position was in aristocracy of 'ancien regime' not a thing which impeded from serving another country. Remember that the ideology known as natunalism, had not yer put itself thriough. A service somewhere else, was regarded as good experience, for a young man. Proper gentlemen did it only under the permission of their own monarch. Look at the case of Axel Fersen (whom I think be gay, actually): son of one of highest families of sweden, and father was field marshal and member of government. The son served some while in 'royal suedois' unit of the French king.... by a permission of his own monarch, and these countries were more or less allies. When one's own country was at war, military personnel preferably were kept in their own forces (the mechanism: the monarch did not grant further permissions), but at some occasions, persons were loaned to ally governments - who occasionally were in need of some special talent or knowledge or something. Exiled ally governments were frequently in such needy situation: even the english during the napoleonic wars, loaned personnel to help some such. so, Tiger (who obviously approaches these with today's attitudes, not aristocratic 1700s) has interpreted it all wrong, and even Mark (who has some idea of its acceptability), dared not to think enough of it. The example you quote, Axel Fersen (rumored to be the lover of Marie Antoinette), and the attitudes you cite were Continental attitudes, not British attitudes. If the Royal Navy had loaned an officer to a foreign monarch, the officer would have maintained his status as a Royal Navy officer, not an officer of another nation. In this situation, Royal Navy traditions are paramount. There was a pride and arrogance in Britain's senior service. Naval officers ashore were treated with respect and a bit of awe, unlike their military counterparts. To ask a Royal Navy officer to transfer to another nation's service during time of war would be like asking an aristocrat in ancien regime France to till his own fields. Some may have, but it was humiliating. Britain has always been a European enigma, and when it came to her navy, she was even more different. Tiger is probably correct in assuming not a modern but an American view of things, as that would be more similar than a French or Spanish one.
Tiger Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I hear that a new chapter should be up some time today. I am definitely ready. George is supposed to meet George.
Mark M Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 I suppose it is George Granger isn't it??? So George did meet George. Though Washington didn't make the impression the President of the united states i thought would have on a person. Course President i think is still Less then king or queen. Anyway The Forshadowing with WHAT ship he was getting was obvious. Now i'm just Currious on what problems have arisen on the ship or what Granger will do about it, or if his intreped Crew will join him in moving over, or if......Mark Mark Mark.....Did you dare i say....leave us with a tad Cliffhanger????? Not impressed i got to wait Two more Days, Frankly i think Two for Tuesday sounds good. or Thursday two's??? Where the hell is Travers anyway??? Granger doesn't even love him enough to have spies of his own knowing where he is, what the hell. So much for worrying! The way this is Written, Travers must be dead.
Mark Arbour Posted November 4, 2009 Author Posted November 4, 2009 I suppose it is George Granger isn't it??? So George did meet George. Though Washington didn't make the impression the President of the united states i thought would have on a person. Course President i think is still Less then king or queen. Anyway The Forshadowing with WHAT ship he was getting was obvious. Now i'm just Currious on what problems have arisen on the ship or what Granger will do about it, or if his intreped Crew will join him in moving over, or if......Mark Mark Mark.....Did you dare i say....leave us with a tad Cliffhanger????? Not impressed i got to wait Two more Days, Frankly i think Two for Tuesday sounds good. or Thursday two's??? Where the hell is Travers anyway??? Granger doesn't even love him enough to have spies of his own knowing where he is, what the hell. So much for worrying! The way this is Written, Travers must be dead. Ponder for a minute that all communications in that era took a long time to arrive. Travers is in the Mediterranean, so it would probably take a month or more for a letter to get from him back to England. Then to be trans-shipped out to Granger in the West Indies, tack on another month to six weeks. Granger wasn't even really in the West Indies all that long to get a letter. Presumably they'll catch up with each other. When is the big question.
Mark M Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Alright so Granger does know where travers is. But still i duno communication is key i guess....i'm surprised Granger doesn't Purchase Intrepid for his own use, i almost thought he might. Anyway Thursday twos right ?? :D
Conner Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Congrats to George! Posted to Captain at 19. Caroline will be pleased, as will his father. I imagine the Earl's chest has expanded somewhat over the past several months as Granger's exploits reahed London. Is this exit stage right for Calvert? By the time Granger makes Admiral, he'll have about 15 lovers throughout the Royal Navy. Is Mr. Grafton next??? Super chapter, Mark!
Tiger Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 Conner, out with the old; in with the new. He needs a new man. We all know he does.
Mark Arbour Posted November 4, 2009 Author Posted November 4, 2009 Conner, out with the old; in with the new. He needs a new man. We all know he does. You guys want me to send Calvert away?
Tiger Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 You guys want me to send Calvert away? We know it will happen sooner or later. I'd love it if he sticks around, but it seems unlikely. Also, I kinda like the idea of a new guy for Granger.
Greybear Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 You guys want me to send Calvert away? Calvert needs to stay with Granger and accompany him to his new command. 1
paya Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 We know it will happen sooner or later. I'd love it if he sticks around, but it seems unlikely. Also, I kinda like the idea of a new guy for Granger.
paya Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 No! He needs his own ship and his own story... and a new guy of his own.
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