Video tour and footage of a Lagoon 55 at sea

[C James]

I encountered the following videos, and thought they offered a good "feel" for the Lagoon 55 (same model as Atlantis).

 

The first one shows the layout well (though the 360 camera distorts a bit) and the second one is a Lagoon 55 at sea.

 

Ummm, I have no idea how to embed, and I can't see vids on my home system so I can't twll if I did it right, so I'll try embedding, followed by the direct links at the bottom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImnAIHGRPo&feature=fvw

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bImnAIHGRPo&feature=fvw

[Eddy]

The videos came through just fine! What an awesome adventure it must be cruising on that beautiful ship.

 

WOW!!!

Edited October 10, 2010 by Eddy

[hh5]

Well its no luxery liner ... so you have to have sea legs ... Trevor has them and Dirk doesn't ...

 

Why would Rachael marry a guy like that? There must be something good about the guy .... the store and the sea for Rachel ... but thats what sets them apart .. Rachel must have been a loving mother that Trevor responds to ... Dirk ... needs a lot of work ... would Rachel accept Trevor being gay ... maybe we will find out and maybe not.

 

Looks like Trevor has learned a lot about sailing ... more than most teens his age ... definitely a skill and definitely he can run a Dirk store. There is no worry from Dirk about education or job? or Maybe there is.

[Hoskins]

Here are a couple of points I think I should make.

 

1. Fisheye lenses suck.

2. That video guy spends WAY too much time looking at boat speed. You're on a sailboat, it doesn't matter (unless you're a pilot)

3. Thank you SO MUCH for getting that ridiculous song stuck in my head.

 

[Red_A]

Here are a couple of points I think I should make.

 

2. That video guy spends WAY too much time looking at boat speed. You're on a sailboat, it doesn't matter (unless you're a pilot)

 

 

Sailors are like fishermen, they always want to boast about the speed they make, and fellow yachtmans alway take it with a large pinch of salt. To get 9 knots boat speed in a force 4 to 5 wind (16 to 18 knots) with so little motion is something you want to boast about. Personnaly, I think I could get more out of it, but then I am a super yachtsman?!

[Hoskins]

Sailors are like fishermen, they always want to boast about the speed they make, and fellow yachtmans alway take it with a large pinch of salt. To get 9 knots boat speed in a force 4 to 5 wind (16 to 18 knots) with so little motion is something you want to boast about. Personnaly, I think I could get more out of it, but then I am a super yachtsman?!

 

It's a 55 foot cat! I get that getting some good speed up with little motion is great, but sheesh! Sailing is for those who want to enjoy the ride, right? That yachtsman has the boom about 90 degrees across the hull, which (I think) means he's got a good crosswind going. Is that good? How is babby formed?

 

If I wanted to worry about speed, I'd be in this baby - 22 knots cruising, 36 knots top speed and a stow and go jet ski.

[Eddy]

Well its no luxery liner ... so you have to have sea legs ... Trevor has them and Dirk doesn't ...

 

Why would Rachael marry a guy like that? There must be something good about the guy .... the store and the sea for Rachel ... but thats what sets them apart .. Rachel must have been a loving mother that Trevor responds to ... Dirk ... needs a lot of work ... would Rachel accept Trevor being gay ... maybe we will find out and maybe not.

 

Looks like Trevor has learned a lot about sailing ... more than most teens his age ... definitely a skill and definitely he can run a Dirk store. There is no worry from Dirk about education or job? or Maybe there is.

 

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Dude, what are you talking about?

 

I must have missed something ~~

[hh5]

????

 

Dude, what are you talking about?

 

I must have missed something ~~

 

The yacht is mention in reference to CJ latest story

http://cjames.gayaut...mnavigation.php

 

I guess you have to catch up to the story to see what I am talking about.

CJ understands

 

As for the yacht is seems to go up and down more than a cruise liner ... not fun if u not have sea legs

[C James]

The videos came through just fine! What an awesome adventure it must be cruising on that beautiful ship.

 

WOW!!!

 

I'm having a great time writing the story about it (Circumnavigation), so much so that I'm going to be taking a short trip on that (or a similar) model of cat, within the next year. At least, I think I am, and I'm sure trying to arrange it.

 

Thanks for letting me know the vids came though; they don't at all on this system, and I haven't had chance to check from my laptop.

 

Here are a couple of points I think I should make.

 

1. Fisheye lenses suck.

2. That video guy spends WAY too much time looking at boat speed. You're on a sailboat, it doesn't matter (unless you're a pilot)

3. Thank you SO MUCH for getting that ridiculous song stuck in my head.

 

 

Totally agreed about fisheye lenses!

 

Yeah,m I noticed that about the boat speed, and what gets me is that isn't even fast for that kind of catamaran... If it was close to 20, then i could understand.

 

As for the song, you're welcome! Always happy to help.

 

Sailors are like fishermen, they always want to boast about the speed they make, and fellow yachtmans alway take it with a large pinch of salt. To get 9 knots boat speed in a force 4 to 5 wind (16 to 18 knots) with so little motion is something you want to boast about. Personnaly, I think I could get more out of it, but then I am a super yachtsman?!

 

Good point on the little motion... I've been at sea in monohulls in the 50 foot range, and in that kind of a sea there would be lots of motion (on the one I was on there sure was!).

 

And BTW, Red is definitely a super yachtsman in my opinion! He's also been absolutely indispensable for giving me expert advice and ideas in the Circumnavigation novel.

 

The yacht is mention in reference to CJ latest story

http://cjames.gayaut...mnavigation.php

 

I guess you have to catch up to the story to see what I am talking about.

CJ understands

 

As for the yacht is seems to go up and down more than a cruise liner ... not fun if u not have sea legs

 

A Lagoon 55 would be nowhere near as stable as a cruise liner (especially modern ones with active roll-damping) but she's far more stable than any monohull yacht, even one twice her size. However, you'd need sea legs, for sure! Good point.

 

There's even a phenomenon called "land legs" that sailors get.. After a week or more at sea in rough water, it feels downright weird when you first set foot on dry land again, so much so that it can be hard to walk a stright line, and the ground (even concrete) has a "rubbery" feel to you. I've had this effect from large ships in heavy seas, so I'm pretty sure yachtsmen get it from much more moderate seas on long passages. "Land legs" are a definite strange effect, but you get over it within a few hours.

 

Sea legs... hrmm. For me at least, they aren't quite like riding a bicycle, in that you never forget, but I've had them since an early age (I was 9 the first time I spent a few weeks on an ocean liner, an old unstabilized one, so old she was on her final voyage.) I've found that I get my sea legs back fast (within a day). However, I do have trouble on unstablizized boats, because my sea time is mainly on cruise ships (with are roll stabilized, so roll very little and slowly if at all but they do pitch.) On an unstabilized boat, where I'm dealing with natural pitch and roll, it takes me a couple of days to fully get used to the roll aspect.

 

However, my experiences are likely not typical; I have severe inner-ear damage, so my sense of balance is not typical, and probably affects me badly in this regard. I get more of my ballence clues visually than most people do. For example, I have instant sea legs on a badly pitching deck in daylight, but I'd have a lot of trouble inside without a window in the same seas. On the plus side, I don't get motion sick or seasick.

[hh5]

 

A Lagoon 55 would be nowhere near as stable as a cruise liner (especially modern ones with active roll-damping) but she's far more stable than any monohull yacht, even one twice her size. However, you'd need sea legs, for sure! Good point.

 

There's even a phenomenon called "land legs" that sailors get.. After a week or more at sea in rough water, it feels downright weird when you first set foot on dry land again, so much so that it can be hard to walk a stright line, and the ground (even concrete) has a "rubbery" feel to you. I've had this effect from large ships in heavy seas, so I'm pretty sure yachtsmen get it from much more moderate seas on long passages. "Land legs" are a definite strange effect, but you get over it within a few hours.

 

Sea legs... hrmm. For me at least, they aren't quite like riding a bicycle, in that you never forget, but I've had them since an early age (I was 9 the first time I spent a few weeks on an ocean liner, an old unstabilized one, so old she was on her final voyage.) I've found that I get my sea legs back fast (within a day). However, I do have trouble on unstablizized boats, because my sea time is mainly on cruise ships (with are roll stabilized, so roll very little and slowly if at all but they do pitch.) On an unstabilized boat, where I'm dealing with natural pitch and roll, it takes me a couple of days to fully get used to the roll aspect.

 

However, my experiences are likely not typical; I have severe inner-ear damage, so my sense of balance is not typical, and probably affects me badly in this regard. I get more of my ballence clues visually than most people do. For example, I have instant sea legs on a badly pitching deck in daylight, but I'd have a lot of trouble inside without a window in the same seas. On the plus side, I don't get motion sick or seasick.

 

You probably get the same effect if you ride the subway or buses all day in NYC

[C James]

You probably get the same effect if you ride the subway or buses all day in NYC

 

That's a very good point! I wouldn't have thought of that. I've been on subways a few times, and having to walk around while they are moving, stopping, starting, etc, is kind of similar in a way, especially if they have old, uneven tracks (such as some of the London subways do).

[hh5]

That's a very good point! I wouldn't have thought of that. I've been on subways a few times, and having to walk around while they are moving, stopping, starting, etc, is kind of similar in a way, especially if they have old, uneven tracks (such as some of the London subways do).

 

Thanks for the share about other countries ... I only know one place ...

 

have you tried riding the SF cable cars or buses all day?? maybe drive a car like they do in streets of SF all day ... wreck the suspension?

 

or the cable cars on the mountains ... while its windy? during those disaster movies :-)

[C James]

Thanks for the share about other countries ... I only know one place ...

 

have you tried riding the SF cable cars or buses all day?? maybe drive a car like they do in streets of SF all day ... wreck the suspension?

 

or the cable cars on the mountains ... while its windy? during those disaster movies :-)

 

The last time I was in San Francisco was a lot of years ago, but I did ride the cable cars (tram cars). I can't remember what they were like for ride though.

 

I've been in ski-gondola cable rides high in the mountains during windstorms, and that gets a bit worrying. I didn't try to stand though (there wasn't much room).

 

I do a lot of 4-wheeling (offroad or rugged trail driving)and that will shake up the passengers and vehicle a lot.

 

Hrmmm... The worst sea I've ever been in was on a small car ferry, crossing the Irish Sea one winter. The winds hit hurricane force, and the seas were massive; we were taking green water over the bow, and things were being thrown around by the motion (even though we were taking the seas head-on, there was still a lot of roll sometimes, to about 30 (guessing here) degrees each side, which is a lot!) Also, when the ferry took a big wave in the teeth, the bow would drop, and then as the wave hit you'd feel shuddering and deceleration as she buried her bow in the wave, and then the roar of the wave bashing the superstructure (I was in the bar, amidships, for most of this). Even some of the crew got seasick, and the journey took three times what was scheduled. It was one heck of a ride. But, there was a plus side; I was much too young to drink, even there (the drinking age is 18), but nobody was carding at the bar, so I had my fill of hard cider (an alcoholic drink, made from apples, which I love).

[hh5]

The last time I was in San Francisco was a lot of years ago, but I did ride the cable cars (tram cars). I can't remember what they were like for ride though.

 

I've been in ski-gondola cable rides high in the mountains during windstorms, and that gets a bit worrying. I didn't try to stand though (there wasn't much room).

 

I do a lot of 4-wheeling (offroad or rugged trail driving)and that will shake up the passengers and vehicle a lot.

 

Hrmmm... The worst sea I've ever been in was on a small car ferry, crossing the Irish Sea one winter. The winds hit hurricane force, and the seas were massive; we were taking green water over the bow, and things were being thrown around by the motion (even though we were taking the seas head-on, there was still a lot of roll sometimes, to about 30 (guessing here) degrees each side, which is a lot!) Also, when the ferry took a big wave in the teeth, the bow would drop, and then as the wave hit you'd feel shuddering and deceleration as she buried her bow in the wave, and then the roar of the wave bashing the superstructure (I was in the bar, amidships, for most of this). Even some of the crew got seasick, and the journey took three times what was scheduled. It was one heck of a ride. But, there was a plus side; I was much too young to drink, even there (the drinking age is 18), but nobody was carding at the bar, so I had my fill of hard cider (an alcoholic drink, made from apples, which I love).

 

I love apple juice ... how much different? High in sugar still? Very very brown? Moon shine strength?

 

Let me guess .... goats have great breaks and an cast iron pouch ... loving to hot dog it with a grin!! .... your were up at the crack of dawn for an Irish whiskey

[C James]

I love apple juice ... how much different? High in sugar still? Very very brown? Moon shine strength?

 

Let me guess .... goats have great breaks and an cast iron pouch ... loving to hot dog it with a grin!! .... your were up at the crack of dawn for an Irish whiskey

 

Hard cider is very common in the UK, and about like good beer or higher in alcohol content. Some is sweet, but my personal favorite is the cloudy, unfiltered "raw" hard cider served by some pubs in the UK. One of the nicknames for it is "rocket fuel". It comes in several forms, some sweet, others dry (not sweet). I prefer the dry.

 

And Lol... I used to cross the Irish Sea a lot when i was visiting the UK, but in that case... the voyage was bad from the start. The wind was near hurricane force (carrying some rain that stung as it hit), coming right down the channel in Liverpool. The ferry had trouble right from the start: we pulled away from the dock, but the ferry couldn't turn (becuase of the force of the wind on the hull) and ended up being carried up the Mersey channel sideways for about a mile, until a tug came to our rescue and helped turn us.

 

As soon as we were out of the river, it got very rough, and kept getting worse (wind and seas both) and we were heading almost straight into them. The ferry was already taking green water over the bow, and pitching like crazy. I could hear the vehickle tie-down chains clanking, and thuds from below, which scared the hell out of me. (I know what happens when a cargo breaks loose under those conditions... it can knock holes in the hull below the waterline, a great way to sink, and in thos conditions abandoning ship would have been fatal). There were only about two dozen passengers, and mostly they holed up in the lounge or cabins. Me? I sat there, drinking my cider and eating onion and cheese and sausage pasties (I don't get seasick.. at least, I never have yet) ,and the bartender seemed to be getting nervous as hell, cringing every time the bow dipped and we took a wave over it (the impact on the forward superstructure was noisy, and you could feel it). There was also quite a bit of water (not sure if it was rainwater or seawater) in the corridors and lounge, little rivulets on the floor.

 

I was thinking by that point it would end badly for us, but drinking give me something to do. Also, drinking at sea is kind of a tradition for me. My first long sea voyage was at age 11, and in those days there was no drinking age at shipboard bars in international waters. So, at age 11, I was buying myself drinks at the bar (My favorites were snowballs, Singapore slings, and Tequila sunrises) with money I'd won in the casino, playing poker. (It's very easy for a young kid to clean up at poker... no one ever thinks they are bluffing). My family still teases me about that.

[hh5]

Hard cider is very common in the UK, and about like good beer or higher in alcohol content. Some is sweet, but my personal favorite is the cloudy, unfiltered "raw" hard cider served by some pubs in the UK. One of the nicknames for it is "rocket fuel". It comes in several forms, some sweet, others dry (not sweet). I prefer the dry.

 

And Lol... I used to cross the Irish Sea a lot when i was visiting the UK, but in that case... the voyage was bad from the start. The wind was near hurricane force (carrying some rain that stung as it hit), coming right down the channel in Liverpool. The ferry had trouble right from the start: we pulled away from the dock, but the ferry couldn't turn (becuase of the force of the wind on the hull) and ended up being carried up the Mersey channel sideways for about a mile, until a tug came to our rescue and helped turn us.

 

As soon as we were out of the river, it got very rough, and kept getting worse (wind and seas both) and we were heading almost straight into them. The ferry was already taking green water over the bow, and pitching like crazy. I could hear the vehickle tie-down chains clanking, and thuds from below, which scared the hell out of me. (I know what happens when a cargo breaks loose under those conditions... it can knock holes in the hull below the waterline, a great way to sink, and in thos conditions abandoning ship would have been fatal). There were only about two dozen passengers, and mostly they holed up in the lounge or cabins. Me? I sat there, drinking my cider and eating onion and cheese and sausage pasties (I don't get seasick.. at least, I never have yet) ,and the bartender seemed to be getting nervous as hell, cringing every time the bow dipped and we took a wave over it (the impact on the forward superstructure was noisy, and you could feel it). There was also quite a bit of water (not sure if it was rainwater or seawater) in the corridors and lounge, little rivulets on the floor.

 

I was thinking by that point it would end badly for us, but drinking give me something to do. Also, drinking at sea is kind of a tradition for me. My first long sea voyage was at age 11, and in those days there was no drinking age at shipboard bars in international waters. So, at age 11, I was buying myself drinks at the bar (My favorites were snowballs, Singapore slings, and Tequila sunrises) with money I'd won in the casino, playing poker. (It's very easy for a young kid to clean up at poker... no one ever thinks they are bluffing). My family still teases me about that.

 

Love hearing your sea adventures .... hehe ... its best to knock me out and tie me down

 

With those horns on your head ... who thinks your not bluffing ... they had to feed you drinks ... o.w. you'll buck your head into the waterline with your horns

 

With no sea sickness ... you sure you can tell things go left and right? Goats only want to go straight and horn their targets ... no need to feel left and right

 

You realize that Trevor going to have to worry if stuff is not tied down in the bulkheads ... stormy seas and logs ... that's scary plus lose cargo ... I've been sunk by joel's beer bottle ... whats Trevor going to do if one engine konks out

[Benji]

Hard cider is very common in the UK, and about like good beer or higher in alcohol content. Some is sweet, but my personal favorite is the cloudy, unfiltered "raw" hard cider served by some pubs in the UK. One of the nicknames for it is "rocket fuel". It comes in several forms, some sweet, others dry (not sweet). I prefer the dry.

 

And Lol... I used to cross the Irish Sea a lot when i was visiting the UK, but in that case... the voyage was bad from the start. The wind was near hurricane force (carrying some rain that stung as it hit), coming right down the channel in Liverpool. The ferry had trouble right from the start: we pulled away from the dock, but the ferry couldn't turn (becuase of the force of the wind on the hull) and ended up being carried up the Mersey channel sideways for about a mile, until a tug came to our rescue and helped turn us.

 

As soon as we were out of the river, it got very rough, and kept getting worse (wind and seas both) and we were heading almost straight into them. The ferry was already taking green water over the bow, and pitching like crazy. I could hear the vehickle tie-down chains clanking, and thuds from below, which scared the hell out of me. (I know what happens when a cargo breaks loose under those conditions... it can knock holes in the hull below the waterline, a great way to sink, and in thos conditions abandoning ship would have been fatal). There were only about two dozen passengers, and mostly they holed up in the lounge or cabins. Me? I sat there, drinking my cider and eating onion and cheese and sausage pasties (I don't get seasick.. at least, I never have yet) ,and the bartender seemed to be getting nervous as hell, cringing every time the bow dipped and we took a wave over it (the impact on the forward superstructure was noisy, and you could feel it). There was also quite a bit of water (not sure if it was rainwater or seawater) in the corridors and lounge, little rivulets on the floor.

 

I was thinking by that point it would end badly for us, but drinking give me something to do. Also, drinking at sea is kind of a tradition for me. My first long sea voyage was at age 11, and in those days there was no drinking age at shipboard bars in international waters. So, at age 11, I was buying myself drinks at the bar (My favorites were snowballs, Singapore slings, and Tequila sunrises) with money I'd won in the casino, playing poker. (It's very easy for a young kid to clean up at poker... no one ever thinks they are bluffing). My family still teases me about that.

 

 

............Well mostly that is because it is hard to see a goat bluff, after all they deny ever being around cliffs! But an 11 year old drinking Singapore slings (must be at least 4 shots in that one, and sunrises?) You must of been one hell on a hellish goat! I never got seasick myself and went through a few rough seas, the worst being a sudden storm at sea on a fishing trawler outside San Diego, and then again on the USS Constellation running through a typhoon at sea. I laughed my ass off at the senior staff that got sick in what I considered small lifts and turns in that storm that got deathly ill, from it. one staff Sargent couldn't eat for a week. Although I would often offer to get him food!

[C James]

Love hearing your sea adventures .... hehe ... its best to knock me out and tie me down

 

With those horns on your head ... who thinks your not bluffing ... they had to feed you drinks ... o.w. you'll buck your head into the waterline with your horns

 

With no sea sickness ... you sure you can tell things go left and right? Goats only want to go straight and horn their targets ... no need to feel left and right

 

You realize that Trevor going to have to worry if stuff is not tied down in the bulkheads ... stormy seas and logs ... that's scary plus lose cargo ... I've been sunk by joel's beer bottle ... whats Trevor going to do if one engine konks out

 

Good point on the horns... And when asked what my favirite drink is, I always reply "Free ones!"

 

Trevor has no worries; he'll have most everything battened down before he sets out. It's a basic of good seamanship; make sure you aren't pummeled by your stuff if the sea gets bad.

 

If one engine goes, that's one advantage of a catamaran; he has two. All you need to do on a cat with one engine is steer away from the "dead" side to compensate for the yaw. It's not efficient, but it works. He's also got the wind for his primary motive force.

 

............Well mostly that is because it is hard to see a goat bluff, after all they deny ever being around cliffs! But an 11 year old drinking Singapore slings (must be at least 4 shots in that one, and sunrises?) You must of been one hell on a hellish goat! I never got seasick myself and went through a few rough seas, the worst being a sudden storm at sea on a fishing trawler outside San Diego, and then again on the USS Constellation running through a typhoon at sea. I laughed my ass off at the senior staff that got sick in what I considered small lifts and turns in that storm that got deathly ill, from it. one staff Sargent couldn't eat for a week. Although I would often offer to get him food!

 

Well of course, a goat would never have anything to do with a cliff, we all know that...

 

And yep, I started raising hell at an early age. LoL... And yes, my parent's knew about the drinking in shipboard bars, and they were fine with it, so long as I only had one per day. (My parents were from Europe, and so didn't have the American attitude towards alcohol).

 

A typhoon at sea? Yipes. Not fun. I've been in 90mph winds in a ship not much smaller than the Connie (a smallish cruise ship) a couple of hundred miles south of the Falklands (east of Cape Horn) and it was a nightmare, because we had a following sea (they left it too late to turn into it). Did quite a bit of damage astern, too.

 

And offering to get a seasick guy food? You're evil!

[Flipper]

"Fisheye lenses suck."

The fisheye vid genuinely made me want not to suck, but to vomit - I'm still queasy two hours later!

 

"... as the wave hit you'd feel shuddering and deceleration as she buried her bow in the wave, and then the roar of the wave bashing the superstructure (I was in the bar, amidships, for most of this)."

Yeah, in the middle and as deep down as you can go should be the least vomit-making part of the ship. Plus if things get real bad and it flips a la Poseidon Adventure then you're well set to dig your way out via the prop tunnel - provided you've got the magnificent Shelly Winters and The Goat with you!

 

"Hard cider is very common in the UK, and about like good beer or higher in alcohol content. Some is sweet, but my personal favorite is the cloudy, unfiltered "raw" hard cider served by some pubs in the UK. One of the nicknames for it is "rocket fuel"."

Brings back fond memories of under-age drinking at a cider pub with a school mate where the only brews on offer were "Scrumpy Jack", "Strong" and "Rough" (half a pint of the latter was good to strip all the lining from your mouth!)