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I don't think whatever is going on in Bakersfield is a rave. I sense something serious going on here and think this may prove to be very important. Does Darius know who his real father is? Did Bitsy ever tell anyone? I wonder how everyone else in the extended family is going to take the knowledge of JP's true parentage. I just sort of doubt this all stays quite. This seemed to be a really good bridge chapter that is leading up to some major action.

I strongly agree with this. American culture has always had a strong puritanical streak running through it. I think that the majority of Americans even in 2011 would be horrified by the idea of a 13/14 year old male or female stripping in a club in front of an audience. Probably because I was sexually active at about the same age, I don't have an issue with Will being a sexual being at that age, but even I have issues with him being sexualized in a public setting. In addition, I was having brunch Sunday with a friend of mine here in Austin that is pretty high up on the tech side of Apple. He says that many phones in use in 2000 could have taken pics of Will stripping but probably not video. He says that while there were a few phones that had the technology in 2000 they were very expensive and the average person would not have had one. In addition, they did not work very well with a lot of movement. Jared says that with Will moving around a pole and being that much in motion along with the darkness and flashing lights from the club, that the resolution would have been horrible and no one could have probably been able to tell who the dancer was. He said it was really the end of 2002 before there was a phone with video technology that was in general use in the public. So if there is video of this stripper act, then it was probably shot on a camcorder; and wouldn't someone have noticed that and stopped it?

OMG, I just knew that JP would announce his relationship to the Hendricksons at just the right moment and boy did he.... Loved It... This isn't just going to affect what is going on in that room but will reverberate throughout Claremont and beyond. I thought the scene between Will and Roberto was just pitch perfect. I think Will is going to have to make some decisions soon and I can't wait to see how he handles it. I do think the stripping in the club is gonna comeback to bite him on his ass but not sure how or even when. I wonder if it will be John that finds the video of this and then boy howdy watch everything hit the fan... LOL...

I have mixed feelings on this post. I don't agree with the first statement but only have my personal experience and that of my brothers, cousins, and nieces and nephews to fall back on. I and most of them grew up in a small town in Texas, 6500 people. There was only three things you could really do and that was either get drunk, do drugs, or have sex. I will say that probably over 60 percent of those I knew had sex of one type or another before they were 14 years old. I don't include masturbation in this, I mean either oral, vaginal, or anal sex. Maybe growing up in small town, it was easier to do because you sort of know everyeone and after a couple of people do it, you just sort of decide what the hell. I did most of the things that the original poster did in the second sentence. I never skipped school or cheated and did a lot of social activities, a lot where church related; this was a small town in Texas... LOL... I don't think I have ever done anything in my life just because someone said I couldn't or shouldn't. I was raised to believe that I needed to look at the situation and decide if it was right for me or if the consenquences were within reason if I just wanted to try it. I don't think it ever pays to generalize a situation, exactly because everyone brings a divergent view point and background to the show...

I am getting into this discussion late but have been out of town for several days. I really agree with the above statement. I was the 13/14 year old that started having sex and doing crazy things and really never slowed down until my late 30's. I was lucky and never caught anything other than crabs twice but was always pretty careful as well. Most of the other guys and gals that I knew that started having sex or getting a little crazy at that early age didn't slow down until decades later if ever. Now, I knew a couple of people that were always so quite and almost withdrawn in their teens that went hog wild once they were away from parents and at college but they only seemed to do that for a year or two and then got on a more even keel. Everyone is different and I don't think it is ever a good thing to generalize a situation. My issue with Will was stripping in public. I don't have an issue with him being sexually active but it just seems that doing what he did could have put him at great risk. I thought the scene was well written but it just made even me a little uncomfortable.

I agree about the slip up's. I have a friend that the ultrasound showed it was clearly a girl; she painted the room pink and yellow and got all girl stuff for the baby and when it was born, guess what??? It was a boy. They said the fetus must have had the penis tucked up when the ultrasounds were done, there was at least three that all showed it was gonna be a girl... This was actually only last year. I think that Jeanine should only have one child and it should be a girl, they need another girl for that generation... I think that Robbie should be the father. Brad doesn't need another kid and I think that Cody being the dad would lead to just way more drama than even this story needs. Having said that, I like the idea of Tiffany having fraternal twins, a son by Wade and a daughter by Matt. I don't know why I like this idea but it really appeals to me for some reason. It will just add another bond for Matt and Wade to have together.

Loved, Loved, Loved the latest chapter of this story. I find it remarkable that Mark can blend history and fiction and draw us all into this amazing world so easily. This is a talent that so few writers possess. I think it is so interesting that Granger is able to compartmentalize his mental functions so that he is able to deal with all the reality around him; while remaining sane and relatively lucid. I cannot image how hard it would be to command a ship while a officer that is in charge of the group is also on your ship. I hope that the next chapter gets out of editing quickly as this was just a tease of what lays ahead for Granger. I have to admit with all this action; I was able to forget about the situation in London for a while but still am dying to know how that will be resolved. Battles at sea are interesting but " Family " battles are always more so... Keep up the reMARKable, job Mark... :worship: :worship: :worship:

God, I miss Tonto.... :( I really did enjoy the latest chapter but was having a little trouble with the idea of any thirteen year old stripping in public like that. I know that in Europe the age issue is a little more flexible, and Will does look older, at least the way I picture him but still. I am not sure I like the idea of a thirteen year old being such a sexual public figure. The idea of a thirteen year old having sex with someone one on one doesn't bother me that much but such a public display just seems a little icky...

I miss Tonto........ :(

Hmmm, well you obviously haven't been to a campus in Texas recently... Not sure if we are alone with the trend or what, but every other guy here is back in skin tight Wrangler or Levi jeans; and I don't mean the relax fit I mean the tight fit... I started noticing it here about a year ago and it seems to be getting more prevelant. Of course, Texas does follow the beat to it's own drummer...

Well, what to say about the latest chapter of PMS???? LOVED IT!!!!! I always knew that Will was gonna turn out to be more of a top than a bottom, I am not sure that he is gonna even be as versatie as his father. I think if Will wasn't as into Roberto as he is that he wouldn't be bottoming at all after the first time. I think that Will was showing his age a little bit with the issue of the clothing. That is the first time in a long time in this story that I remembered that Will was only 13. I sort of liked JP's reaction to the the clothes, and I think the picture is sort of like one where the baby is on a bear skin rug naked; it is that picture to embaress the kid in a few years... Like the last poster, I too wondered if Kristin has been molested by her father or what is going on. When she was talking to Gathan, she hinted that there was more to the story of her accusation but I don't think Gathan really caught what she was saying. I wonder how Claire would feel about a second houseguest in Palo Alto this fall???

Okay, first of all, I really enjoyed the latest chapter of PMS. I really loved that Will got to go surfing in Italy and prove that he is just Bad Ass... I really think that Zach is going to cause problems for not just Gathan but others as well. He just really seems to have no respect for himself much less anyone else. A tragic accident in his future, hmmm maybe??? Okay now on to the current discussion on if Will or Gathan would sleep with an HIV + person using protection, and I say yes to both of them. Now, I know that no sex is truly safe unless you are not having it but as long as you are taking the proper precautions you are much more likely to get bitten by a shark then contract HIV; and I know that someone is going to bitch about that statement but.... If you are using protection with the added protection of being on top; the risk is amazingly low. I don't think that Will or Gathan would be scared off from sleeping with someone that they cared about just because the person is HIV positive. I think that Will especially because he has been raised in an atmosphere of education and honesty would understand the risk but also would understand the human element involved. I can't see Will being either shallow or rude enough to reject someone because of their HIV status. I actually think that Gathan would have more of an issue simply because he hasn't been raised in as educated and open enviroment, but do believe he would understand that with protection the risk is unbelievably small.

The latest chapter was excellent. I really do feel that Mark has a great way of drawing us all into the battles. I know that some of it is because we really care about the people in the stories but Mark is also able to make the battles relevant and interesting. I wonder if it will be Preston or Granger that gets captured and is ransomed by the return of the Spanish Captain? One of the British Captains was captured while trying to rescue a seamen and was then ransomed back for the captured Spanish Captain. I could really see Granger risking himself to save one of his men. I know the battle is excitting but I want to know what is going on in London..... Please!!!!!! Keep up the great work Mark, and I know that the next one will be a little bit of a wait... :,(

In response to all the recent post - YOU CANNOT REWRITE HISTORY... IT JUST NEVER WORKS... I too mourn Jeff, his death still haunts me and I start crying several chapters before it happens when I go back to re-read this series. Having said that, I would change nothing about this series, Mark has done a wonderful job creating a truly interesting group of people that affect so many of us in different ways. Be happy that he allows us a glimpse into this place and stop the backseat writing, so to speak...

Well, really enjoyed the latest chapter of PMS. I think the dual story lines are both developing in a way that enables them to be seperate but able to come back together when they need to. I wasn't so sure when the dual narration started that I was going to like it but it has proven to be very entertaining. I really like how Will handled the situation with Roberto's size. It is so easy in that situation to say the wrong they and cause your partner to feel bad or react in a negative manner. Plus, the smaller size will help Will when he bottoms for the first time. Still wondering about this contest, there really was no hint in this chapter; bad author... LOL. Is Kristen a year behind Gathan? I was thinking they were both seniors about to go off to college but they way she talks, she will be in high school next year. JP will have to come back to town and settle her parents down. I can see Zach deciding to cause all kinds of problems not just for Gathan but for Brent and anyone else that he can. Why is there one in every group??? Keep up the great work Mark, this is turning into a wonderful addition to the CAP series.

Really enjoyed the latest chapter of St.Vincent, this one looks to be another gateway chapter that leads to other things. I can't help but wonder about Captain Preston, there is just something else there but can't tell what. I believe that Mark is doing a remarkable job of conveying how charismatic Nelson was in real life. History is filled with stories of how inspiring and overwhelming he was in person. It looks like we are in for a few good chapters of his exploits leading the way. I do think that Granger will always remember Travers with a deep love and heartfelt sadness. I think in many ways we never forget our first love and that relationship often effects each of those that come after it. I still miss Travers but understand that his death fit the storyline. I still want to know what is going on in London though Mark, maybe Caroline could narrate part of or all of a chapter to update that situation??? Keep up the great work.

And they are so worth the wait, this is the best story series on this site; CAP coming a close second for me..... :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

OMG, I have to know now!!!!!

I had two brothers, one 21 months younger than me and the other 10 years younger than me. I did compare and jack off with the one closest to me in age but never with the younger one. I think with this part of the issue would be how close in age the brothers are. Another issue would be how old they are when they are doing it? I mean if they are 12 and 14 years old or are they 19 and 21 years old? I would think the cut off for most would be three or four years difference in age.

Okay, so Nelson and Granger are gonna have to deal with a couple of Spainish ships while evacuating Elba; I bet they win... LOL... I want to find out what happens back in England, I want to know if Freddie is gonna get away with his dastardly behaviour or is Caroline going to be able to put a stop to it... I miss Granger...... :,(

I really don't think there is anything wrong with being a slut... Maybe because I am one, at least to a certain extent. I think to some extent it is easier for someone my age to have been a slut then someone of the generations following me. I was fourteen when I slept with the first man and woman that I ever slept with. My sexual experience begin before AIDS was really an issue, and then I just got lucky for a few years before I wised up. I do think it is to some extent about attitude. I do think that how you present yourself to some extent decides how others view and label you. Most of my friends, even the ones that know of my past, would not consider me a slut as much as I do... I also never cheated, when I was in a relationship with someone; I was faithful... Now, I can say that til I was over thirty, most of my relationships were less than six months but I can say with complete honesty, I have never cheated on anyone that I have been in a relationship with. I really think that sex is one of those things that we are suppose to enjoy. As someone once said, even bad sex is pretty damn good. I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape when two people or more, do something that feels so damn good... I really do believe that America more than any other country in the world, even the Islamic countries, has a real puritanical streak when it comes to sex.

I do agree that with the coming years we will see a few people go off to war, and I think the odds are that some of them will not be coming back. I was sort of looking for Darius to get that appointment to one of the service academies and get to Iraq or wherever as an officer, I could really see Darius as a pilot... I agree that it would be really hard to lose Darius, Mark remember how pissed some of us are still about Jeff. The odds are that someone in the extended family or among their friends is going to lose someone to the senseless war coming up... I also agree with the point made earlier that when you train a young man or woman to kill and then they are put in the situation that many of our brave men and women have been put in; the transition back to civilian life is often harder than you can imagine.

Well, really enjoyed the new chapter and was interested to see how both Gathan and Will handled their situations. I really do think that the dual narration is working really well for both sides of the story. I liked how Gathan and Kristen were able to talk before he dropped her off. I think that the fact they both realize that there are things they need to deal with in order to really cement their relationship is important. Kristen is right that Gathan is going to have to be more open with her, she doesn't seem the kind of person that likes to have secrets in her life. I wonder how she will deal with JP's when and if it comes out??? I really like how Gathan and Wally handled their talk as well. Wally seems to understand what is going on even with Zach, to some extent, but you can tell he really cares about Gathan and wants the best for him. I think that Will is going to have a good time in Rome, Roberto seems to be just the balm that Will needs right now. That is one thing about speaking a language that those around you don't know you speak; you can sometimes find out the most interesting tidbits... Rico sounds sort of like Zach, another shit disturber... I bet Roberto is in for a suprise when he sees Will in all his glory, so to speak... Have to wonder what kind of contest they are having at the club??? Keep up the great work Mark and really appreciate how hard you work to keep us entertained...

After the first few chapters, which I had some issues with; that have since been resolved through the sheer genius of the author, I am really enjoying the give and take on the narration of each chapter. I like the idea that we are getting a view, often of the same incident, from two people with such a divergent background and makeup. I think we would be well served to just sit back and enjoy that story and let Mark lead us on another wonderful adventure. So often the journey itself is more fulfilling than the destination.

I am going to preface my comments here by advising that I am a slut... Okay, I was more of a slut from 17 to 30 years of age but still. I completely agree with the idea that in real life every gay man should sleep with a man from another country. Unless you leave in New York City, D.C., Los Angeles, or a city with a large university that has a lot of foreign students or you travel this may not always be easy but it is well worth the time and whatever else it takes... It doesn't count if the person has lived in the US longer than ten years or is second generation; something happens to those men and they seem to lose that uniqueness of where they are from. If you have to limit yourself to the men from one or two countries; I suggest you go for either Irish, Italians, Greeks, Lebanese, or New Zealanders... In the days preceeding my 30th birthday, I tried to become a one man United Nations welcoming committee. I slept with at least three different men from 19 countries, two different from 16 countries, and one each from almost two dozen others... See, I told you I was a slut... LOL... Now, a lot of these was in the eighties so I don't know the exact ethnic or nationalistic breakdown from the ones from Czechoslovakia, Yougoslavia, or the old U.S.S.R.; so that country count is probably not accurate any longer but I did my research on as many as I could... I hit every continent and cast as wide a net as I could. I really believe that you gain a certain perspective by being that intimate with someone from another culture. You are able to connect on a level and in a way that helps you to understand the person not just your idea of who they are based on their home country. Many of the men I slept with were from communist countries prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall and it was interesting how different they were from the idea that I had in my head of who they would be based on the propoganda we grow up with. It is harder to look at someone's culture or country in a negative light after you have gotten to know them on an intimate level. It makes you realize how much of what we hear about others is from a viewpoint that often is without experience or any sense of a one on one contact to help form that viewpoint. Now, I am not saying to do what I did; I look back now and go " OMG " I must have been crazy and by the luck of God came through relatively unscathed. I have never had any type of veneral disease and only twice in my life did I end up with crabs, and both of those times, it was actually from guys here in the US... I just think if we took the time and effort to step out of our comfort zones and experienced more of the world in this manner, or any other for that matter; we would be better people individually and a better nation collectively. It amazes me how insular the US has always been and continues to be. Each guy is different and just because they are from the same country they don't have the same moves and ideas of what makes great sex but some countries seem to be better at it then others; althought there are always exceptions... I found the guys from East Germany were better than those from West Germany, remember this was the 80's, so they are split still... I also found that guys from rural areas tended to be better, at least from my point of view, than those in the cities. You can have a guy from a country be great and then anyone else you experience from there be lousy or vice versa. I found for me that the exceptions usually proved the axiom. If I had to list the five best guys I ever slept with by country; and I will for the purpose of this discussion... Number one was a guy from Sweden, but the other Swedes I slept with were rather cold fishes; number two was Irish, and every Irishman I ever slept with was excellent; number three was Lebanese, and all I can say is WOW; number four was Greek, and damn they must have been practicing solid for thousands of years; and number five was Italian. oh such passion. Now, what each person likes when it comes to sex can be so different from everyone else; so what I liked about someone or some country, you may go damn...I can't believe they just did that... Find out what you like, and find someone that likes it too..... P.S. Since I turned 40, and number of years ago, I have been with only seven guys and the same one for the last couple of years. Yes, he knows my past and while he doesn't exactly approve of it; he does enjoy the benefits of my youthful explorations...