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I have to say that when I was reading the story, the thought that was running through my head also turned to a bible verse not a story, the one I was thinking of was 1 Corinthians 13 lines 11 through 13: When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror, then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain; faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love. There is no magic date or time that we suddenly are grown up and mature. It happens for most slowly, moment by moment, and never all at once. For some the time never truly arrives; but for those that do, only they know when it truly happens. Every wrong step, every turn the wrong direction, each wrong choice; helps us to reach our goal of finding the way to our own maturity. Afterall, if you made every right choice in life; you probably did not really live your life...

I would really think that no matter what elevation Granger receives; either Bertie or an unknown antagonist is the most likely to to cause Granger problems in this story. Granger has been able through his behaviour and actions endear himself to most of the people that really matter inside of the navy and in polite society. Bertie might not be happy about returning home, but with his new fortune, I would think he would be. I think if Granger is going to have a real problem with someone, it will probably be someone new or totally unexpected.

Really enjoyed the latest chapter, this is a good start to dealing with the problems between Brad/Robbie and Will. I think that Robbie will come around more after he is face to face with Will. Robbie's personality is one built more on emotions and tactile behaviour not logic. Robbie does better when the issue is right in front of him, not when he has to really think about it and work it out from a distance. Some individual counseling and maybe some family counseling is in order. The person I don't get is Darius. I understand he is starting college and all wrapped up in Ella, but not even a email? I am really curious now about Jeff's reaction everytime Matt has been brought up. Jeff keeps saying he doesn't want to sleep with Matt, but I wonder if he hasn't already in the past??? Well done as usual Mark...

I thought you posted this one a little early, that was why I wasn't so suprised with out the newest chapter ended... LOL....

Well, I was out of position all yesterday and just got to the latest chapter of Paternity. This is what I call a bridge chapter, stuff happened but it is really just setting the scene for what is coming next. This is sort of the chapter that sets up the beginning of the end. I really think that Will slept with the cabbie because he was lonely and wanted someone to care about and care about him; never the best reason to have sex with someone but haven't we all been there. It is such a basic human need to be loved; Will sort of felt that no one really loved him and wanted that, even if it was just physical. Brad's email to Will was masterful. Brad finally got Will to understand that he really did love him, even if they were having problems; that had never changed. I think the biggest issue that was resolved in this chapter was that Will realized that he really did love Brad and Brad really did love him. I truly believe Will had begun to doubt that. When you are young it is so easy for small things to become huge, it is so easy to take a crack in a relationship and make it as wide as the Mississippi River. I don't think that the issues between Brad/Robbie and Will are over, or between Brad and the rest of the family; but this is the chapter that starts some of the healing process. On another point, I just don't the sex between Wade and Jeff being a big deal. It was great sex but just sex. The only way it will become more of an issue is if Wade develops feeling of more that friendship or lust for Jeff, and I really don't see that happening, or at least it better not... " sits at my desk holding a large baseball bat "... Mark, this is truly a wonderful addition to the CAP series and the best story for me since " The Land Whore ", for me the first three stories were really the best...

As a parent, you do everything you can for your child. You stand behind them; sometimes next to them; and when the situation calls for it, in front of them. You love them, you help them, you scold them, you correct them; and you do all of these things through the laughter and tears both equally. That all being said; the one thing you cannot do, is live your childs' life for them; their mistakes are there own and they have to claim them and be responsible for them!

I can go along with all of them except number four... In no way have Brad and Robbie even been marginally good parents in the last couple of months... I am not saying they are the worse parents ever because obviously they are not, but they have done nothing to help Will deal with what happened in Paris; and I think Sharon is one hundred percent right; they have done nothing to compensate for the fact that the primary care giver for all of their children suddenly went MIA, because of post partum depression. PS... I am not telling my other personalities about the fact Sharon says this is fiction... I am having them focus on the pretty squirrels... PPS... Tea is always better than coffee...

This chapter was really sad for me to read. Will comes to understand a lot about himself and what is going on while reading the emails from those he left behind. Will is starting to realize that even with the issues he is having with his dad and Robbie, he is not alone. There are so many people in his life that would be there for him, if he gives them the chance. Will's reaction to some of the emails really showed his age; while his awarness of the dangers around him showed he really is mature beyond his years. In a way it is sad that he had to grow up so fast in some ways that no one his age should have to do... Going to be beach house at Santa Cruz is getting him closer to making a final decision on where he wants this to go; I really do think he will end up in Palo Alto at least for a while. Some time apart can give Will and Brad a chance to reconnect while both of them go through some therapy. I do believe that their relationship will survive this but it will forever be changed by it. Great Chapter Mark!!!!

Sometimes Golden Oldies are really the best....

A really good chapter; a bridge that is leading to more adventure on land then on the sea. Really like when we get to see Granger spend some time with Caroline and the children. The addition of Nash to the story is wonderful, I love how Mark is able to pull real people and make them fit some seamlessly into the storyline. I can't wait to see what kind of house he comes up with for Granger... And will the house be fit for a Baron, a Viscount, or dare we hope, an Earl???

O' what a tangled web we weave.... Mr. Arbour, I do believe this maybe a truly tangled web by the time the Baccchante sails to the south seas and back... An Odyssey worthy of Homer; minus all the female sirens of course, I do hope for some grand adventure however. I really don't know how Granger can keep those baths so clean, he must have a person that cleans them on a daily basis as much of a workout as they all get. I was glad to see Somers and Granger begin to repair their relationship, while I have to admit Cavendish sort of bores me somewhat, but he will at least be left behind soon. I wonder, could we really begin to hope for an Earldom for Granger? I never really thought that he could possibly be elevated that far but... I still think the Viscount position is more likely but damn, an Earldom... That would just kill Freddie and Davina...

Well, the only amount that I have ever found dangerous is the lack thereof; but then I am a slut...

Hmmm, I have been wondering, what if Granger does have to take Teasdale and Sir Phillip Kerry out to the South Seas, plus Somers as his marine Cpt, and Lt Robey has his 1st Lt on the trip out then Lord Chartley, Somers, and Lt Robey on his trip back; will Granger ever get to sleep??? How much sex do you really have to have before it is dangerous???

Hmmm, wasn't Tonto born a Crampton and then married a Schulter? Seems that even when she was younger, Tonto was very passionate, so I don't think it was just Marie's influence and blood...

OMG, I have not heard or even thought about " Runaway Train " in years... This really fit the mood of this chapter to perfection. I pulled up and watched a couple of vidoes of the band with this song... It was perfect...

Okay, I no more get through my latest diatribe and look up; and what do I see but the latest chapter of Paternity is out... This is an interesting chapter, it seems to be a bridge from the past leading toward...what??? I don't know the answer to that yet, but I bet Mark has it all laid out in his head, masterfully. I really like how Wade is handling himself and others during this story; and this chapter just adds to my admiration. I am not sure how Matt would feel about Wade sleeping with Jeff, unless it was a threesome but sort of thing Jeff is owed something for his work in finding Will. I really thought how Jeff stood up to Brad was really well written and played out. I am not sure I agree with it one hundred percent but did like how it really added to the reality of this storyline. I am not suprised at all that Wade is the one that Will has reached out to, even if it was just an email; nor am I suprised that Wade is keeping his promise to Will about not using that contact as a way to track him down. Honor and promises mean something, even when the consequences lead to a price to pay. Mark, this is really one of the best stories in this series since 1968... I hope you have enjoyed creating it and seeing it to fruition as much as I have enjoyed reading it.

I think some people just need to grow up and get over it... Nothing Will has done except the pole dance is that out of bounds for someone that is 13 or 14 years old. Maybe growing up here in Texas is different but honestly by the time I was 14, I had done a lot more drinking and partying that Will has at this point; I had a lot more sex, with much greater age differences and both male and female; and frankly if there had been a gay strip club near me in the country, I probably would have done the pole dance... Now, I did come of age in the late 70's and early 80's but I don't think we were that much wilder than, just didn't have to worry about as much stuff. I have several nieces and nephews and children of friends that come to me quite often for advice or counsel or just a shoulder to cry on; and from their experiences, no nothing really has changed. I got away with most of what I did because I had a 4.0, was in the honor society, various clubs, youth represenative on my church board, and was polite and well mannered with my elders. Did my parental units and family know everything I did, probably not; but in a small town they knew most of it... When I was 14 and a freshmen in high school, I went out of town to San Antonio, Austin, and San Angelo to party all the time with a group that was a couple of years older. Most of these trips were overnight trips and a lot of times, I was the designated driver, was never a huge drinker but could tie one on if the mood hit me. I went to a lot of college parties starting when I was 14 or so and never really had any problems. I don't think any of Will's behaviour is that out of bounds and I think anyone that thinks it is probably is being a little unrealistic in their view... I think some people are forgetting how blown out of proportions everything is when you are that age; every incident gets magnified beyond recognition. I don't think Will ever dealt with what happened in Paris; and honestly Brad and by default Robbie, sort of acted like it was no big deal... I do think that Brad has broken his word to Will several times and that coupled with his neglect really triggered most of the outburts that we have been seeing. You don't havre to hit someone to be abusive, in some ways neglect is as damaging or more so. Another thing that keeps being brought up is how rich and privileged Will is and how that in some ways makes him immune from abuse, that just isn't so. Often children of privilege suffer as much abuse or more than those of lower socio-economic levels but because of the wealth and position of the families; it just gets covered up more effectively. Having all the money and things in the world doesn't make up for the love and support you can get from a family that really cares about you, believes in you, and is there for you...... Right now and for most of this story, neither Will nor JJ has had that type of family.

I have gone back and re-read Paternity from the start in the last couple of days. I really do think Will is acting out in a large part because he never really dealt with what happened in Paris. I have to believe in some way he blames Brad and Robbie for the kidnapping and rape, because it was about revenge on them. Even if this is illogical, Will is a hormonal 14 y/o... It is rare when I agree with Private Tim, so everyone mark this down; I think one of the biggest mistakes parents make is trying to be their childrens' best friend. The kids already have friends, they need parents. Now, if you can be a parent or sometimes if you are not the actual parent but the authority figure and be a friend great; but that is very delicate balancing act that few actually pull off. When humans are young, they need parents or others acting as parental units more than they need friends. I think once a person reaches a certain age, and that is different for everyone; you can shift the role more and actually become more of a friend rather than a parental unit. I can honestly say my mother is my best friend... I have lots of other friends but I am closer to my mother than any other person on the planet. However, when I was under 16 y/o, my mother was the parental unit first and everything else second. I think this is a mistake that Brad has made in this story of trying to be Will's best friend first and a father secondary. He further undercut this relationship by making it where Jeanine really couldn't act as the parental unit where Will was concerned. I can't wait to see where Mark takes this story next... I can see some real trials and tribulations coming because I think Will is smart enough after what happened in Paris to know they can track him through his phone and how to avoid that...

Well, Mark mentioned her and I wouldn't be suprised at all if Tonto appeared after rising from the grave and flying 1st class to LA... I swear, the whole time I was reading this chapter, I really felt that Stef was summoning the spirit of Tonto, God, I miss her... I really disagree with a couple of people on this forum, I don't think Will started any of this. I really do believe that 80% of this issue between Brad and Will is Brad's fault, 15% Will's, and 5% everyone else that didn't realize that Will was still traumitized over Paris. Yes, Will did roofie the asshole, and Robbie got it to by default; but I can say I would have done something equally brilliant if I had been in place. By God, you may not start the war; but once it has started, you fight to win... The police showing up was JP's first salvo, but I sort of bet it will not be his last. And the person I would really be afraid of if I was Brad is Claire, she is going to make him wish he was somewhere else. I also agree that Jeanine may just snap out of her depression, the description by someone else of a mother bear protecting her cub, is quite accurate. OMG, I swear three chapters a day wouldn't be enough... Mark, great job and I just can't wait for the next update...

I wanted to say that I always check in and see what songs methodwriter has selected to go with each chapter. They have just all been excellent this time around, not that there have been a whole slew of bad ones before but... Each just seems like each song that has been picked this time, really hits the right note in the story. I have got to were I come here and look up the songs and then go play them as I re-read the chapter; it has really enhanced my enjoyment of some of the chapters greatly. This is something special and something that I don't think methodwriter gets enough credit for taking time to do and the great job he does in doing so...

I really agree with this... I think that sometimes as the saying goes, familiarity breeds contempt. I am not sure some time apart wouldn't be a good thing for all involved, but do agree with some earlier post that Will probably should not be alone for all of this time apart.

Hmmm, I wonder... I, do hereby decree myself to be Empress of the Known Universe... All bow down and worship me... Did it work????

I don't think that is always true. I really believe that of all familial bonds, the one between father and son is the weakest. I really think the bond between mothers and son, fathers and daughters, and mothers and daughters are much stronger. I think between fathers and sons there is always an element of competition that is always there; the son trying to surpass or dethrone the father and the father doing what he can to stop it. I think that there are somethings that can never be forgotten, they maybe forgiven, but never forgotten. I think that the bond between father and son can be breached in a way that you can never really repair the damage. That being said, I don't think that Brad and Robbie have reached that point with Will, yet. I don't think that anything Will has done really has warranted the treatment that Brad and Robbie have tried thus far. I do think that Will's only major lapse in judgement was the pole dance in Rome, but I do think a couple of people need to get over it. When you are that age and physically as mature as Will is being made out to be, shit happens... Frankly, maybe because I grew up in the country and in Texas, but Will hasn't done nearly as much as most of the kids my age did when we were his age; granted this was in 1980 but still. I still believe that a good part of Will's issue is that he has never dealt with the events in Paris. It seems to me that getting kidnapped and raped should have warranted a little more therapy or concern from his parents and family then it got. I think that a good part of Will's recent behaviour can be traced to not dealing with the fact of what happened in Paris and the fact that Brad and Robbie's past came back to bite Will on the ass... The only thing that Will did in this whole chapter that I would question was drugging the guy, but if he hadn't done so; he might have been raped a second time. Plus, no more than the guy took, they will be out of his system way before anyone even gets him out of the hidden sex room. I can say that I never drugged anyone to get away from them; but more than once when I was Will's age, I got someone stinking drunk so they would pass out, thereby letting me and some friends get out of supervision... Yes, I was a bad bad boy... Do I think that Brad and Will have reached a point of no return in their relationship, no; but that being said I think they are teetering along the top of a very steep cliff, let's all hope that they don't slip down it accidently. As someone once said, " it's gonna be a bumpy ride ".

OMG, this was the greatest chapter... I loved everything about it. I cannot believe how irresponsible Brad and Robbie were to start Will on something like this and then leave. After JP, Stef, and Claire get a hold of the picture that Will sent this idiot that did that will be lucky to still be alive. I know that Wade will be mad but the one that I would really be afraid of is Claire. She is going to be so pissed at Brad and Robbie, they might want to take a plane somewhere far far away, like Antartica. I loved how Will got the idiot locked in Brad and Robbie, special sex room. That was priceless. I don't think Will ever really dealt with what he went through in Paris, and I think this is just going to bring all of that back up. I think the next few days will be very critical to Will's future recovery. Hmmm... seems that I remember that there is someone in Hawaii that sure does like to surf too... I wonder if we will all get a blast from the past...

Westie, you may know about this.... Isn't there something about the peerages created between 1707 and 1800. There were Acts of Union in both of those years but isn't there something different about peerages created during those years? Something about precedent or rank above those coming before or after??? I just remember reading something about it at one time. I believe if he is named a Baron, he would be titled The Lord Granger; and if a Viscount, The Lord " whatever the title is" or The Lord Granger. A Baronet is part of the aristocracy or gentry not the peerage. This is the point I was making about it being underwhelming... I really do think it would have to be a Baron or Viscount; that Granger was named to, I would love for him to be named an Earl but I just can't see it happening. That would make him on the same level as his father and I just don't know.... If he is named a Baron or a Viscount, would he outrank both his brothers, even Freddie, who would one day be an Earl? I know as an Earl he would outrank them but not sure about anything lower than that, even though I realize neither of them actually hold a title, Freddie's is because he is the son of an Earl. Maybe we could make Granger a Viscount and Bertie an Earl, wouldn't that just fry Freddie's brain...