People just don't listen to lyrics anymore. Besides, it's creative licence or whatever. He shouldn't have to censor himself.

There is also a hugely popular finnish song "Sama nainen" = "Same Woman", from artist called Chisu.

It says roughly translated that "I forgive everything, even the beating part". An kids listen to that song...

But people DO listen and songs DO send messages out to people. Surely there has to be some responsibilty somewhere.

Sadly, because the original song was written by a very indie band that not many people listen to, they'll gloss it over. And after last year's Rage Against The Machine win, I imagine Simon Cowell has a fifty foot high barbed wire wall around his precious Matt and anyone who criticises him publicly.

People are idiots. This is no excuse, but considering the shite I get for de-crying Twilight as borderline abusive relationship grooming, I think it's safe to say that idiocy is becoming infective these days. (No really, one guy told me that it was because "You pure like all that intellectual stuff and speak Japanese, so of course you wouldnae like it.") This is the same country that produced 'Lesbian Vampire Killers' which was essentially about 'defeating lesbianism' with phallic looking weapons! Enough said.

Standards are slipping, and something needs to be done! Angry feminist is angry!

I suspect that the people who actually buy the record are vacuous teens who dont actually take time to analyse what the song means.

That said, If you read the lyrics to the whole song, I think its done in an ironic way - its just cardle's interpretation doesn't lend itself to an accurate message.

I think I'm with Eva on this..... totally

Well if they aren't listening to the lyrics actively ... then it might be subconsciously listened to.

Its a question if any one acts on it or realizes it has an irony

There are a lot of songs out there similar or just like this ....

look at rap ... what they say to do to police

The question is did people act out?

Some say some people do ... and some don't

What people don't realize this is just like chanting ,.. just like getting people to vote or protest

It sticks into their minds ... if they have the anger ,.. they could act out on the suggestion of the message.

That sucks because its a bad use of a music technique to move people that way.

I disagree here. Sure it doesn't seem like a good message, but it's a song, with lyrics with is basically self expression. Maybe it's not a way of telling people to let their loved ones beat them, but maybe talking about a relationship where it had happened and yet she/he would have rather been beaten then without someone they "loved".

I'm against censorship for many, many things, including this. I'm not one for sheltering anyone (within reason), and personal responsibility should be a factor more often than not. Most, if not all adults know abusive relationships are wrong. Most of the the time, when you're in a rotten relationship, your judgement and rationality is clouded by your love for that person, which seems to be the message in that song, for me at least. Why censor that?

To protect children? They actually need to know these things. Not that being abused is glamorous, but that it DOES happen, and can happen, and that many (possibly this songwriter) will put their love for someone over their own well being first. There's a lot of bad things written in the world, granted. Religion causes more wars than domestic violence, but if I wanted to censor the bible, or remove it completely for being a bad influence, I'd be laughed at or bashed.

It's about being in an abusive relationship where your partner essentially beats the crap out of you but you stay together because you think they love you and you love forever!!!

Yeah, it seems exactly like that, but that's exactly how they tend to be. As far as I'm concerned, the song is truthful. It's sad, that it happens, but it DOES happen. Anyways, it's just a song, not a subliminal message trying to warp the minds of the masses.

Surely there has to be some responsibilty somewhere.

But where? Who would you give that responsibility to? Think about what you're asking for. You'd give somebody the power to decide what people can or can't say or sing about. It's censorship, and it's never a good thing.

We're members of a community that would suffer horribly under censorship. What if nobody can talk or sing or produce movies about being in a gay relationship, because honestly, who wants their kids exposed to that?

I agree, it's not a nice message, but Lacey's spot on. People need to be able to both voice those feelings and be exposed to them, because how else do we learn or cope.

I just heard it playing in a taxi. I reckon the bruises and hitting are all just a metaphor for being disappointed by the other half. Maybe it's just wishful thinking...

Who can argue with Lacey? :)

I concede that perhaps I was overreacting