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It's better to be late than to be unfished or have that 'incomplete' feeling within a story, that's why i'm taking my sweet time with SA, cause I need a better idea and more chapters so i don't have to make any more revisions than absolutely necessary, and as for your no plans for a sequel, will, never say never. I, for instance, would like to see more of Brian and Keith. Defintely think something is going on there, and I'm definitely hoping that in your final chapters we get a well given sense of how things end with Jansen and Eric , so don't leave us hanging like that. As for your concerns that the chapter was "below par". Well. I don't think so, at all. The only difference between this story and the other Let the Music play is that we're not seeing so much of the band touring. But then again, this isn't about the band touring, it's mostly about Eric and my boy Jansen, resolving things that were left undone in the prequal. It also helps that things are culminating quick and easy. Most of us are just ready and waiting to see what happens next, to the point that we're sitting on the edge of our seats, I'm sure. I personally can't wait for the next (hopefully) several chapters. Best regards, and take as much time as you need. Jon

Because the MK-48's and the ADCAPs do practically the same thing as a spearfish, just don't weigh quite as much. Same fuel, same capabilities. Wouldn't be all that surprised if the MK-48 ADCAP is the spearfish ::shrug:: Wouldn't be able to tell ya without seeing a picture of one. Ah, and the chip to make autonomous decisions, don't have those either. (hrm, I'd have to do more reading on the ADCAP, but I'm pretty sure of that). As to why we don't have em, we'll...we either got something better now or it'd be to expensive to replace all the MK-48's and ADCAPs, which should be done anyways. Jon

Heh, and that's not even the half of it. I used to play with the Mk-48's when I was on the sub, so I know all about it. Did a lil looking, they think it was a MK 37 Torpedo that went off and was 'jettisoned'. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure that it was ever jettisoned unless it exploded/imploded in the event, which is the only way I can see it as being able to do enough damage to the inside of the ship that it put a hole in the hull. I'm gonna go see if I can find some specs on the MK-37 torpedoes

Was that that the MK-48 torpedo on the Scorpeon? I'm kind of curious as to how long the Mk-48 has actually been in use. Simply because, even though their are replacement torpedos for them, the MK-48 ADCAP, the Navy still uses Mk-48 torpedos as well, and the damn things are faulty as hell.

Actually, that's not entirely true, ehr, I think. I'm sure you got good information but I think I have better info Although, that would be the perception of why they went down, because stuff does tend to go boom at crush depth (actually, it's more an implosion, not explosion...hrm...does it still go boom then?). One of em went down because of flooding, which resulted in the birth of Quality of assurance and submarine safety rules, and the other went down because a torpedo may have exploded, if I recall correctly. I'd have to go look at my notes from my QA classes and such when I was in the Navy on board the U.S.S. Henry M. Jackson. In retrospect everything else you said is mostly likely completely true (I'll neither confirm nor deny anything, as i'm not willing to admit to anything that could get me in trouble!) Posters' Disclaimer! The poster of this post in no way shape or form admits to any actual knowledge that may or may not be true due to his time in the Navy. The poster does however acknowledge that this is his belief from a faulty era which, simply put, he doesn't really want to remember all that much, but is willing to go see if he can find any notes to back-up what he believes he was told/taught. In the case of the poster being totally wrong, he will in effect come back and say so and apologize for J.A.S (Jack Ass Syndrome) or what may be perceived as total jackassism by the other fans of the notorious author, Cliff H. Anger. Best regards, Jon (who is off to see if he can find said notes)

:::squints::: I have access to a submarine, so I'll rescue Instinct...Hrm...wonder if the U.S. Navy would send in troops (Go Navy!) to secure the bombs, save Instinct, and pay our boys...I do hope we see the end of Jerry Clump, unfortunately m'thinks Brandon won't be so involved with taking the man down this time, I think the man's gonna kidnap my boy Jansen and Eric's gonna go rescue him, especially since Eric hates the guy so much..heheh, mutual hate...Hrm..crap...wonder if Jerry will kill Jansen out of his own sense of revenge to get back at Eric... Questions questions and more questions... I feel a headache coming on in the next few chapters Jon

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All right, so I went and saw it today (too much popcorn, I'm shaking heheh) and I just got back from seeing it... So...I guess I'm a little biased cause I hated what they did to the timeline, and I'm a major fan of the William Shattner star-trek movies... But I'm not a total trek geek, so I can move myself to be a bit unbiased. Now, getting past my biases I will say this was an excellent movie and can stand well enough on it's own. Totally loved the Leonard Nimoy appearance too (why can't we have Shattner making an appearance too? ) and i'm waiting for it to come out on DVD too so I can freezefram the undies shot, now, going back towards my biases, there are two things I am hoping for out of this. 1) I do hope they can revitalize the star-trek industry if they make any more movies and out of this movie alone, but... 2) I do hope they don't try and re-make any of the Star-Trek movies that Shattner and crew did, cause I'll be pissed... oh, and side comment, The kid who played in Charlie Bartlett as Chekov in this movie really is of russian descent. For those of you who haven't seen Charlie Bartlett I recommend you do so, it's freaking great. Laters, Jon

I want to know what the miscommunication between helen and eric was...oh horror of all horrors...shall have to wait another week to find out J

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Bite me! (hahah, this is great)

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Welcome back Swee' 'eart! (fake gangster accent) We missed you, glad you're home safe and sound. Sleep well, CJ (can't imagine why you need any sleep, you were just on vacation for 6 weeks, LoL) Rest EZ Jon

Loved it. I also loved the whole you coulda called thing going on as well as the end between Jake and Ry. I think if Ry isn't careful he really is going to end up locked away somewhere. Something needs to happen with that boy and his father. I'm starting to really hate Colin, and I'm wondering what's going to happen at the dinner now between Jake and his family and Colin and his family, and if Ryan is going to show up. There's a twist here somewhere, I'm wondering how long before Jake's outted. Will, it's set to happen on "Thursday Night" so.....hopefully in the next chapter Regards, Jon

:::::::::Shakes::::::::::: Your devoted psychotic fans demand the next chapter(s) of Dreams N Clipped Wings. Nuff Said Jon

yeah...another cliffhanger coming up, definitely. and I imagine poor Eric and Jansen getting stuck in that godawful tunnel somehow the next time it explodes. Least they can drop the nukes in the volcano and call it good Jon

Ooh, Thanks, Yer the best U just aided and abetted me in my own stories, LoL. But seriously, I find trying to write conversation really hard, so I understand where the question came from. I accidentally found myself doing what these guys have suggested, having conversations happen to help further a point or explore relationships between characters or give the reader some insight into a character or characters. I just didn't really realize that that's what I was doing at the time. Regards, Jon

Write now I've got a character biography list started on my characters, I'm also coming up with relevant family and character history, am conducting some research on history in general to apply certain parts to the story and said characters history, and am fleshing out personalities, so to speak. I also wrote down a bunch of stuff to do in a to do list, things such as: Character Historical timeline relating to relevant points in history Certain backstory timelines and reference points Along with that I've written down certain scenes or conversations in my head that I want to see happen in a non-sequential view, and with that I've also started to write down some Sequential ideas. I have to be careful with that part though because as I've already discovered, I come up with some ideas that I end up having to try and fit. That's why I've decided it kind of sucks to be writing crap down with a pen. I've found that if I actually write this stuff down rather than try to type it, I seem to have better success with ideas and fleshing out the characters because while I'm writing I'm able to ponder other things as well, where as if i was typing, I'm not so sure I'd be able to do that. Those are just a few things that I've taken to doing. Regards, Jon

So, I've been busy between my new job and school lately, and organising my thoughts on Sunny's Angel. I've temporarily placed SA on hold for awhile I think until I become way more organised with it, but in the mean time I'm in the process of gathering my thoughts and such for a new story that I'm probably going to write. After writing the outline vs. No Outline post and seeing other individuals thoughts and such on it, I've decided to try my hand out with a new approach on writing stories. As such, this new project that I want to try and write is my test ground for it, so I'll needless to say, I'll be focusing more on that than I will be on SA for awhile. In my spare time between school, work, and this project, I'll be attempting to focus on SA. Regards, Jon

Hmm. So it seems everyone has a different way of writing out their "outline" so to speak. I'm definitely in agreement with the whole "No way is this gonna be like an academic paper outline", because doing so would be too tedious a task. I have however found that I've been asking myself questions and writing down answers in a sort of outlineish way, questions such as: "Is Devin going to survive this?" "What happened that night so many years ago that caused ____ to start on fire" "Why did that happen?" "What's setting Devin off" so on and so forth, than I come up with an answer that will allow me to expand on the story, now I just have to tell the story itself so that the answers to my questions become part of the story itself. (does that make sense?) I've also come to the conclusion that it really would be a good idea for me to write the parts of the story that I know about in particular already, from there I can see if there are any more questions and such that become relevant, etcetera. The problem though is keeping it all constrained to a set amount of people so that I don't keep creating more and more characters to keep the story going. On another note, I also agree with revising the story if something isn't working at all, or at the very least, revising what you are seeing to make it work with in the story itself, such a scene could very well mean a time jump within the story line itself, especially if you can't really think of anything interesting that could possibly occur any time recently that would be worth writing about. I guess time jumps are a useful thing, as long as they are used sparingly, and an author takes careful note to explain anything of interest that could have occurred to make a character act in their current behavior (does that make sense as well??) Just some things I've considered and come to realize. Many thanks for everyone's time on this and helping to provide input. On another note, character biographies are indeed a useful tool, I too usually use my memory to keep track of useful information, but it can also be a good idea to write things down, because something may occur to you while you're in the process of writing such info down. Rambling and many many thanks to all of you whom have taken the time to respond to me Many regards, Jon

I think I got something out of that. Considering I had the ending planned out along with the beginning part as well, an outline would have been a good thing to have, so I could connect all the dots, or at the very least, keep them all connected. I'm thinking an outline is just that, an outline, it still allows for your own creative writing within the story itself. Or am I completely wrong on this Confused, because he hasn't began to figure out how to write an outline yet. On the bright side, I have tomorrow off, so I can correct this problem Anyone else have good inputs, or examples of outlines, such as what W.L. was talking about? I don't think I've written an outline since speech class in 9th grade, and that was YEARS ago... Jon

I'm just writing this because I feel the need to rant, mostly at myself. So, prepare for a slight whine fest. I just looked at my notes for Sunny's Angel and realized I haven't been following all of them, and am entirely unsure of how to fix the chapters. I feel so bad about this that I've come to the point where I'm preparing to write an outline just to get to an ending point for the story, and yet I know if i do this there will still be a couple chapters or so before I hit the end of Sunny's Angel. I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not. In doing so I'd probably end up with a major time skip and unintentionally leave a few questions unanswered. On the other side I could try to find a way to implement my notes with the rest of however many chapters there are just to get myself back on track, and try writing scenes from the major character's pov(s) just to do so, I'm just not sure how well this would work out. I'm thinking an outline first and then go from there. All I can say is this'll probably teach me to not write another story without having an outline and detailed notes first. Jon

I looked through the forum to see if there was another topic on this and I didn't see one, so I'm posting this, mostly because at the moment i'm frustrated and looking for input. How many of you out there use outlines before writing a story with more then one chapter??? Does this help you keep on track at all or do you find yourself changing things to the story outline in the middle just so you can implement new ideas, or are you just writing scenes you think would be cool, and it doesn't ultimately change the outline that much? How many of you write notes on things and reasons for what your characters are doing, but when you go back and look at your notes you realize you haven't really been using them as much as you should have and feel like you just screwed up your whole entire story because you were writing whatever came to mind (I seem to be in this latter part ) If you do this, what do you to get yourself back on track? Does anyone go back to their story and decide to write an outline for the rest of the remaining story in an attempt to get back on track, and if so, does this help at all? I'm asking because I'm to the point where I'm ready to write an outline to get to an end on my story, and to keep myself on track to implement the rest of the main points of my story, mostly cause I am frustrated, and don't seem to be generating as much feedback on the story as i'd like, so I am unable to tell what people are thinking. Does anyone else ever get frustrated with this? Many thanks for your help ~Frustrated I. Ndividual~ P.S. Did I mention I'm frustrated? [/end whine fest]

Uh, Many thanks to David McLeod who makes my work more legible and clearer. I notice a major difference between something I've written without him looking at it and something I've written where he has looked at it. I'd also like to thank Benji and Rush for looking at my work ahead of time as well and providing their own inputs, and asking questions that I have to decidedly go back and look at. Many Many Thanks Jon