The first thing I thought of when I saw this word was Denny's, I.H.O.P., and Waffle House (just picking places that the most people might know).  

9 hours ago, Bill W said:

The first thing I thought of when I saw this word was Denny's, I.H.O.P., and Waffle House (just picking places that the most people might know).  

Denny's = pie and coffee all night long

I.H.O.P. = pancakes and surly waitresses

Waffle House = clouds of cigarette smoke and ashes in your eggs

The 1st century Latin poet Martial says that ientaculum occurred between 3:00 and 4:00 in the morning. While the 16th century French classical scholar Claudius Salmasius (Claude Saumaise) says it occurred between 9:00 and 10:00. Frankly, I'm putting my money on the poet from Ancient Rome who enjoyed his bread, cheese, olives, salad, nuts, raisins, and cold meat topped off with a mixture of wine, honey, and aromatic spices in the wee hours of the morning over some French dude who went around using his pen name. I've known some Claudes in my life from a great-uncle who used his middle name, an Air Force pilot who pronounced it like those puffy things floating in the sky, and a guy from South Dakota who pronounced it as if it rhymed with "dud".

1 hour ago, CarlHoliday said:

Denny's = pie and coffee all night long

I.H.O.P. = pancakes and surly waitresses

Waffle House = clouds of cigarette smoke and ashes in your eggs

I was only thinking of the smells of food when you walk into those places. 

31 minutes ago, CarlHoliday said:

The 1st century Latin poet Martial says that ientaculum occurred between 3:00 and 4:00 in the morning. While the 16th century French classical scholar Claudius Salmasius (Claude Saumaise) says it occurred between 9:00 and 10:00. Frankly, I'm putting my money on the poet from Ancient Rome who enjoyed his bread, cheese, olives, salad, nuts, raisins, and cold meat topped off with a mixture of wine, honey, and aromatic spices in the wee hours of the morning over some French dude who went around using his pen name. I've known some Claudes in my life from a great-uncle who used his middle name, an Air Force pilot who pronounced it like those puffy things floating in the sky, and a guy from South Dakota who pronounced it as if it rhymed with "dud".

You know, when I was first typing my etymology blurb I had spelled the Latin word ientaculum, but the I saw another entry that spelled it jentaculum, and since I and j have a lot in common in appearance, I though possibly the bottom of the j got erased or didn't come through, so I went with jentaculum.  Oh well, so much for my reasoning ability .  

7 hours ago, Bill W said:

You know, when I was first typing my etymology blurb I had spelled the Latin word ientaculum, but the I saw another entry that spelled it jentaculum, and since I and j have a lot in common in appearance, I though possibly the bottom of the j got erased or didn't come through, so I went with jentaculum.  Oh well, so much for my reasoning ability .  

Yeah, the Roman alphabet didn't have the J and the I often took its place. The J didn't come into English print until the 1629 1st revision of the King James Bible and an English grammar book published in 1633. I find it interesting when researching topics that change over time. There are numerous examples of someone taking something that is common today but didn't exist many millenia ago, and assuming today's truths were the same back then. If that makes any sense.

On 6/28/2024 at 10:48 PM, CarlHoliday said:

Yeah, the Roman alphabet didn't have the J and the I often took its place. The J didn't come into English print until the 1629 1st revision of the King James Bible and an English grammar book published in 1633. I find it interesting when researching topics that change over time. There are numerous examples of someone taking something that is common today but didn't exist many millennia ago, and assuming today's truths were the same back then. If that makes any sense.

The King James Version (KJV) of the Christian Bible has been revised more than once.  The spelling in the currently common KJV was the result of a revision around 1751.  Also, it is interesting to note that the original KJV translation included what is now known by many as the Apocrypha.  Several words in the KJV were incorrectly translated, as well causing stress and grief to some reading the words.