C James Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 It's Christmas season, so a chapter with a nice Nordic name, "Maelstrom" is up. :music: :music:
hh5 Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 He made quite a crossing can imagine how cold and bang up he is Now Atlantis will be part of the tidybowl commercial or a Lost in Space re-enactment ooo does Trevor get to nail Johnny Depp or that other guys whats his name?? One hopes he wipps out to Australia sounds like he getting pretty close like another 5 day crossing 2500 miles => his first week Total est 12 days => so he might make it for holloween in austraila Too bad that Sanchez can celebrate the death of slippery guy like Trever here we go Bridget and George celebrating anyone want to buy a ship for scrap metal 1
Clydee Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 It's Christmas season, so a chapter with a nice Nordic name, "Maelstrom" is up. :music: :music: Sweet Jesus...you think being on Atlantis is safer than being home???? Lesseee....two huge storms plus a rogue wave....I think not!!!! :angry: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
Pai-kun Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 Awesome episode as always! It's too addicting though! I hid in a bathroom at work earlier today and read the chapter on my cellphone!
jkeeling Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 Ummm. I think this comes really close to a cliffy.
Benji Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 .......................Damn goat! You have Trevor surfing at a time like this in the middle of a storm? Must of been hard for Trevor to give up his beloved cursed garlic crusher, but who knows it might save his life, if the Atlantis comes out just a bit okay. I wonder how far and which direction the storm will push the Atlantis, before leaving her adrift. Or will the storm push her on land shipwrecked. Back to the wave, three stories high of whitewater? Then the wave must at least a hundred feet high, basically vertical, like a cliff. Therefore, I nominate this chapter to be a cliffhanger! 2
C James Posted December 14, 2010 Author Posted December 14, 2010 He made quite a crossing can imagine how cold and bang up he is Now Atlantis will be part of the tidybowl commercial or a Lost in Space re-enactment ooo does Trevor get to nail Johnny Depp or that other guys whats his name?? One hopes he wipps out to Australia sounds like he getting pretty close like another 5 day crossing 2500 miles => his first week Total est 12 days => so he might make it for holloween in austraila Too bad that Sanchez can celebrate the death of slippery guy like Trever here we go Bridget and George celebrating anyone want to buy a ship for scrap metal Trevor is getting closer to Australia, you're right. He's about 575 miles southwest of Cape Leewin (the southwest cape of Australia) He's made most of his Southern Ocean voyage. His plan worked; entering the roaring forties did hurl Atlantis east at comparatively high speed, and his wooden wall sail worked, until now... Sweet Jesus...you think being on Atlantis is safer than being home???? Lesseee....two huge storms plus a rogue wave....I think not!!!! :angry: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: It wasn't all storms and waves.. he even got to have a campfire cookout on that log. And it's a white Christmas... White water is white, isn't it? Awesome episode as always! It's too addicting though! I hid in a bathroom at work earlier today and read the chapter on my cellphone! Thank you!! How does the story display on a cell phone? Can you see the pics as well as the text? Ummm. I think this comes really close to a cliffy. Not so! Atlantis isn't on the edge or on the top, she's under that 30 feet of whitewater, so no cliffy! BTW, I even edited the first post in this thread to make it more christmasy... see the Christmas goat? .......................Damn goat! You have Trevor surfing at a time like this in the middle of a storm? Must of been hard for Trevor to give up his beloved cursed garlic crusher, but who knows it might save his life, if the Atlantis comes out just a bit okay. I wonder how far and which direction the storm will push the Atlantis, before leaving her adrift. Or will the storm push her on land shipwrecked. Back to the wave, three stories high of whitewater? Then the wave must at least a hundred feet high, basically vertical, like a cliff. Therefore, I nominate this chapter to be a cliffhanger! Benji! How could you? The wave itself might not be as big as you think... Rogue waves bound up, and are thus steeper in shape than they can hold, and so they can have large breaking areas relative to their height. Also, even if it was a hundred foot swell, a hundred foot swell that isn't breaking is totally harmless to a small ship. It's only the breaking bit that's a problem, and in this case it's only thirty feet (three stories). Plus, Atlantis is now under it, playing submarine, so no cliffy. Look at it this way... Trevor wanted extra speed, right? Well, he's got it now... Atlantis is moving faster than she ever has before, and could maintain that speed for several seconds. Also, Trevor was heading for Australia, the Land Down Under, and the last we see of Atlantis is her bows are dropping, diving deep, heading which way? Down... Down under... So it's all good, right? Okay, seriously speaking, Trevor does face a few challenges, and you touch on one of them; what happens after the wave, assuming Atlantis survives? When we last saw her, she's beginning to do something called pitchpolling: flipping end over end. If she flips, he cannot right her. He'd be trapped in her overturned hull, with the interior spaces partially awash. He'd die of hypothermia within an hour. So, pitchpolling (described in the glossary on the Atlantis page) is one issue. Will she? We'll find out. The other issue you raise is how far the storm will carry her. Not far at all, because we just saw her wood sail reduced to kindling. That also means she won't be running before the storm, but instead will be taking heavy seas, most likely abeam (from the side). That's a recipie for disaster. There are quite a few other little issues... ones that would be minor under normal circumstances. Here's an example; what if Trevor's bedding (the netting sail and foam) just gets wet? Even that would put him in extreme danger of hypothermia and death.
Benji Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 Benji! How could you? The wave itself might not be as big as you think... Rogue waves bound up, and are thus steeper in shape than they can hold, and so they can have large breaking areas relative to their height. Also, even if it was a hundred foot swell, a hundred foot swell that isn't breaking is totally harmless to a small ship. It's only the breaking bit that's a problem, and in this case it's only thirty feet (three stories). Plus, Atlantis is now under it, playing submarine, so no cliffy. Look at it this way... Trevor wanted extra speed, right? Well, he's got it now... Atlantis is moving faster than she ever has before, and could maintain that speed for several seconds. Also, Trevor was heading for Australia, the Land Down Under, and the last we see of Atlantis is her bows are dropping, diving deep, heading which way? Down... Down under... So it's all good, right? Okay, seriously speaking, Trevor does face a few challenges, and you touch on one of them; what happens after the wave, assuming Atlantis survives? When we last saw her, she's beginning to do something called pitchpolling: flipping end over end. If she flips, he cannot right her. He'd be trapped in her overturned hull, with the interior spaces partially awash. He'd die of hypothermia within an hour. So, pitchpolling (described in the glossary on the Atlantis page) is one issue. Will she? We'll find out. The other issue you raise is how far the storm will carry her. Not far at all, because we just saw her wood sail reduced to kindling. That also means she won't be running before the storm, but instead will be taking heavy seas, most likely abeam (from the side). That's a recipie for disaster. There are quite a few other little issues... ones that would be minor under normal circumstances. Here's an example; what if Trevor's bedding (the netting sail and foam) just gets wet? Even that would put him in extreme danger of hypothermia and death. ..........Yes, you have put Trevor in a very perilous position, he needs gets out of this storm quickly. As you stated if he and the netting are wet, you have left him in extreme danger of hypothermia, he can't start a fire if everything is wet. If that wave was enough to shred his wood mast, what would stop it from crashing through the cabin doors. Hopefully, we will have a nice x-mas chapter up before the holiday next week that will revolve around a present to the readers!!
hh5 Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 There are quite a few other little issues... ones that would be minor under normal circumstances. Here's an example; what if Trevor's bedding (the netting sail and foam) just gets wet? Even that would put him in extreme danger of hypothermia and death. How do you know he didn't wet it himself? boat-horror-kills-up-to-50-at-christmas-island Trevor could smash into an island - he did a tree
Flipper Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Not so! Atlantis isn't on the edge or on the top, she's under that 30 feet of whitewater, so no cliffy! ... Atlantis is now under it, playing submarine, so no cliffy. Cliffhanger = "an ending line that leaves one in suspense" (Chambers). Consider the final stress-inducing passage by The Goat (one of many ): "Atlantis, entombed within the three story deep churning wall of whitewater with only part of her mast protruding above, dove deeper in the frothy water, the pressure – far more than she had been designed to withstand – forcing water in from countless points. What faint light there was dimmed to nothing, leaving Trevor in a lightless maelstrom of sound and violence. In the heart of the seething whitewater, Atlantis’s bows lurched even further down, sending Trevor plummeting into the cabin wall. He felt the hammerblows shaking Atlantis and the deafening roar, along with the sickening sensation of speed" So exactly what sort of reaction is intended to be created in the minds of anxious and worried readers? Peace and calm? A relaxed and tranquil state of mind?:wacko: I don't think so And another thing - given the structural weakness of a cat (see http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5265554.html - "Catamaran hulled boats have an inherent structural weakness in that the pontoons act as large levers stressing the deck. In rough seas, many decks have been broken by such stresses") and the evil relish with which The Goat describes the "massive" sea assault on Atlantis, how can traumatised readers realistically expect her to survive not being crushed and ripped apart? If this is not "an ending line that leaves one in suspense" then what is? :blink: BTW some vids (not in the southern ocean) showing the fearsome power of an angry sea: "Luxury cruise turns into an nightmare" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDbRFvCFDF4 No audio but fun to watch restaurant + diners trashed. That is, fun in a goatish way (i.e. mean, cruel + twisted ). "Cruise ship almost capsizes" "Huge wave hits huge cruise ship" FayeKane's comment: "Notice that it actually ' jolted ' this ship when it slapped against it.! Its a deep sea's componding weight through its motion. Like hitting a ' liquified ' Iceberg. For it to have moved this massive cruise ship weighing thousands of tons, the water's force of impact ' equaled ' it by measure of weight". 1
Site Administrator wildone Posted December 15, 2010 Site Administrator Posted December 15, 2010 Cliffhanger = "an ending line that leaves one in suspense" (Chambers). Consider the final stress-inducing passage by The Goat (one of many ): "Atlantis, entombed within the three story deep churning wall of whitewater with only part of her mast protruding above, dove deeper in the frothy water, the pressure – far more than she had been designed to withstand – forcing water in from countless points. What faint light there was dimmed to nothing, leaving Trevor in a lightless maelstrom of sound and violence. In the heart of the seething whitewater, Atlantis’s bows lurched even further down, sending Trevor plummeting into the cabin wall. He felt the hammerblows shaking Atlantis and the deafening roar, along with the sickening sensation of speed" So exactly what sort of reaction is intended to be created in the minds of anxious and worried readers? Peace and calm? A relaxed and tranquil state of mind?:wacko: I don't think so And another thing - given the structural weakness of a cat (see http://www.freepaten...om/5265554.html - "Catamaran hulled boats have an inherent structural weakness in that the pontoons act as large levers stressing the deck. In rough seas, many decks have been broken by such stresses") and the evil relish with which The Goat describes the "massive" sea assault on Atlantis, how can traumatised readers realistically expect her to survive not being crushed and ripped apart? If this is not "an ending line that leaves one in suspense" then what is? :blink: BTW some vids (not in the southern ocean) showing the fearsome power of an angry sea: "Luxury cruise turns into an nightmare" http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DDbRFvCFDF4 No audio but fun to watch restaurant + diners trashed. That is, fun in a goatish way (i.e. mean, cruel + twisted ). "Cruise ship almost capsizes" "Huge wave hits huge cruise ship" FayeKane's comment: "Notice that it actually ' jolted ' this ship when it slapped against it.! Its a deep sea's componding weight through its motion. Like hitting a ' liquified ' Iceberg. For it to have moved this massive cruise ship weighing thousands of tons, the water's force of impact ' equaled ' it by measure of weight". I really don't think I have much to add to this Care to comment Goat?
DragonFire Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Total Cliffhanger. :shakes head: Though to be fair... not as bad as some in previous stories. So in that respect he's getting better..ish.
Site Administrator wildone Posted December 15, 2010 Site Administrator Posted December 15, 2010 Don't give him credit where credit isn't due Take a look at what Santa goat is handing out to his readers as Christmas presents!!!! Peanuts. How many of his readers may have peanut allergies and yet he still hands them out at Christmas. He is evil I tell you. Always has been, is, and will be. Now for a question Joel and possibly Lisa are about to join Trevor (unless he is dead) in Australia on Christmas break. Where are they going to meet him and how are the two time lines lining up? While Joel is asking for permission, is Trevor going down to the bottom of the sea?
Benji Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 Don't give him credit where credit isn't due Take a look at what Santa goat is handing out to his readers as Christmas presents!!!! Peanuts. How many of his readers may have peanut allergies and yet he still hands them out at Christmas. He is evil I tell you. Always has been, is, and will be. Now for a question Joel and possibly Lisa are about to join Trevor (unless he is dead) in Australia on Christmas break. Where are they going to meet him and how are the two time lines lining up? While Joel is asking for permission, is Trevor going down to the bottom of the sea? .............Good question the time line is f**ked up! Trevor should have made Australia around 10/30, now we have him drifting, if the Atlantis survives such a crushing cliffhanger crisis! There is no way he can survive drifting for another month, take in the 'forties' pushing him eastward with the sails he has left already starting to shred. Good news is that he 'was a day maybe a day and a half' out of Australia before the 2nd storm!! The rotation of those storms looks like they project southward. Not a good thing for Trevor, he will have to re-climb what is left of the mast and re-insert the sails he made up in swelling waters. And that is even if the Atlantis survives the maelstrom, which it will miraculous Trevor's 357 pistol looks less ominous now, but can the backside of the storm drive him northwards? The goat did say it was a small but powerful storm, could the backside propel what is left of Atlantis enough north to either get rescued or make land fall? The options are very few here until the storm passes, if one storm put him 500 miles south, anothe could put him 500 or better north. I see him drifting just above the '40's' towards Australia. His bearings lost, hopelessness sinks into him, he considers the gun as his rations are depleted.
hh5 Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 .............Good question the time line is f**ked up! Trevor should have made Australia around 10/30, now we have him drifting, if the Atlantis survives such a crushing cliffhanger crisis! There is no way he can survive drifting for another month, take in the 'forties' pushing him eastward with the sails he has left already starting to shred. Good news is that he 'was a day maybe a day and a half' out of Australia before the 2nd storm!! The rotation of those storms looks like they project southward. Not a good thing for Trevor, he will have to re-climb what is left of the mast and re-insert the sails he made up in swelling waters. And that is even if the Atlantis survives the maelstrom, which it will miraculous Trevor's 357 pistol looks less ominous now, but can the backside of the storm drive him northwards? The goat did say it was a small but powerful storm, could the backside propel what is left of Atlantis enough north to either get rescued or make land fall? The options are very few here until the storm passes, if one storm put him 500 miles south, anothe could put him 500 or better north. I see him drifting just above the '40's' towards Australia. His bearings lost, hopelessness sinks into him, he considers the gun as his rations are depleted. Hey his rations are well mixed and stirred and he's going to gilligan island 2011 He's pretty close ... so why can't there be a chance he be rescued? Its very risky in this kind of weather
Benji Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 Hey his rations are well mixed and stirred and he's going to gilligan island 2011 He's pretty close ... so why can't there be a chance he be rescued? Its very risky in this kind of weather ...........The goat is clever, yet will not kill off his main character, (at least as that goat has balls let) Somehow Trevor will survive this. At this point I'm thinking him being rescued or him being storm driven into an island, there are 2 months do dispel here. (almost)
C James Posted December 16, 2010 Author Posted December 16, 2010 How do you know he didn't wet it himself? **************** boat-horror-kills-up-to-50-at-christmas-island Trevor could smash into an island - he did a tree Yipes... that's a real disaster. Sounds to me like they had a navigation error, or an engine failure, and ended up on a lee shore. Cliffhanger = "an ending line that leaves one in suspense" (Chambers). Consider the final stress-inducing passage by The Goat (one of many ): "Atlantis, entombed within the three story deep churning wall of whitewater with only part of her mast protruding above, dove deeper in the frothy water, the pressure – far more than she had been designed to withstand – forcing water in from countless points. What faint light there was dimmed to nothing, leaving Trevor in a lightless maelstrom of sound and violence. In the heart of the seething whitewater, Atlantis’s bows lurched even further down, sending Trevor plummeting into the cabin wall. He felt the hammerblows shaking Atlantis and the deafening roar, along with the sickening sensation of speed" But there is no suspense there... The Southern Ocean is notorious for storms, so this was to be expected. That area (the Southern Ocean in the regions southwest of Australia) is literally the fiercest body of water on earth. Rogue waves, monster storms, massive breaking seas... its not a nice place. So, it's no more suspenseful than it getting cold near Antarctica. So exactly what sort of reaction is intended to be created in the minds of anxious and worried readers? Peace and calm? A relaxed and tranquil state of mind? Exactly!!!! And another thing - given the structural weakness of a cat (see http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5265554.html - "Catamaran hulled boats have an inherent structural weakness in that the pontoons act as large levers stressing the deck. In rough seas, many decks have been broken by such stresses") and the evil relish with which The Goat describes the "massive" sea assault on Atlantis, how can traumatised readers realistically expect her to survive not being crushed and ripped apart? If this is not "an ending line that leaves one in suspense" then what is? It's just a perhaps-ever-so-slightly-tense situation. Good point on the cat's structural Achilles heel; that's why Trevor was worried earlier about the pounding she was taking under her bridge wing. Wow... those are great vids. The one of the cruise ship wallowing was in the Med... apparently, she had a temporary engine failure (due to a wave smashing into her bridge) and ended up sideways to the sea, which would make her ride very badly indeed. I remember a cruise liner going down of South Africa due to an engine failure. They are lucky is was an older design; the newer cruise ships are even more top heavy. I would not like to be in one that lost power in a storm. What they did to get out of it in that vid was turn into the seas as soon as they got the engine going. Generally, a boat is a lot safer either running before a storm or turning into it. Atlantis has been running before the storms, but now she's in a bad one, and we just saw her wooden sail reduced to kindling. And it was her wooden sail that kept her running downwind. We also know that the netting sail (that Trevor is currently using for bedding)is frail, and could never take a storm. I really don't think I have much to add to this Care to comment Goat? I did, I did! See? Not a cliffhanger. Total Cliffhanger. :shakes head: Though to be fair... not as bad as some in previous stories. So in that respect he's getting better..ish. But, there aren't any cliffhangers in my stories. :ph34r: Don't give him credit where credit isn't due Take a look at what Santa goat is handing out to his readers as Christmas presents!!!! Peanuts. How many of his readers may have peanut allergies and yet he still hands them out at Christmas. He is evil I tell you. Always has been, is, and will be. Now for a question Joel and possibly Lisa are about to join Trevor (unless he is dead) in Australia on Christmas break. Where are they going to meet him and how are the two time lines lining up? While Joel is asking for permission, is Trevor going down to the bottom of the sea? Now, Wildone, I can easily prove you wrong here, about nut allergies... how could anyone in this forum have them? After all, they'd be allergic to me... unless you want to argue that I'm not nuts. :wacko: And how could sweet, innocent me be evil? The timelines match up, in that the scenes are in chronological order. So, Joel's question feel between where we last saw Trevor and where we saw him again in this chapter. .............Good question the time line is f**ked up! Trevor should have made Australia around 10/30, now we have him drifting, if the Atlantis survives such a crushing cliffhanger crisis! There is no way he can survive drifting for another month, take in the 'forties' pushing him eastward with the sails he has left already starting to shred. Good news is that he 'was a day maybe a day and a half' out of Australia before the 2nd storm!! The rotation of those storms looks like they project southward. Not a good thing for Trevor, he will have to re-climb what is left of the mast and re-insert the sails he made up in swelling waters. And that is even if the Atlantis survives the maelstrom, which it will miraculous Trevor's 357 pistol looks less ominous now, but can the backside of the storm drive him northwards? The goat did say it was a small but powerful storm, could the backside propel what is left of Atlantis enough north to either get rescued or make land fall? The options are very few here until the storm passes, if one storm put him 500 miles south, anothe could put him 500 or better north. I see him drifting just above the '40's' towards Australia. His bearings lost, hopelessness sinks into him, he considers the gun as his rations are depleted. ...........The goat is clever, yet will not kill off his main character, (at least as that goat has balls let) Somehow Trevor will survive this. At this point I'm thinking him being rescued or him being storm driven into an island, there are 2 months do dispel here. (almost) Uhoh... is that a threat of goat-roasting? Well, Trevor is safe from running aground; the nearest land is over 575 miles away, and it's Australia. There aren't any islands closer than that, in any direction. You're right, the winds can and do alter; highs and lows rotate in opposite directions, and the winds also change as a low or high passes. There are also prevailing winds to consider... a I'll dig up some wind charts from those days.
rknapp Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Fairly certain stormsdown under rotate CCW. So, this one might blow him NE enough to be found closer to AU. He should survive this... but I probably can't say why. I'm not entirely sure lol.
hh5 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Uhoh... is that a threat of goat-roasting? mmm ... I never tasted roasted goat ... goat cheese yes gosh - 575miles with no sails - well I hope he's getting there before he won't be
EMoe57 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 He should survive this... but I probably can't say why. I'm not entirely sure lol. I can - because the Goat wrote it and he didn't put THE END in this chapter. OK, off to Edit-land :wacko:
DKing23 Posted December 19, 2010 Posted December 19, 2010 I can - because the Goat wrote it and he didn't put THE END in this chapter. OK, off to Edit-land :wacko: I hope that by the end of the horrendous trip to Australia, that Trevor finds a way to communicate with his friends. After every chapter, I get more and more worried about things happening to him. This story is really emotional to me and make me think that you are a superb writer!!!!
C James Posted December 21, 2010 Author Posted December 21, 2010 Fairly certain stormsdown under rotate CCW. So, this one might blow him NE enough to be found closer to AU. He should survive this... but I probably can't say why. I'm not entirely sure lol. Yep, low pressure systems rotate clockwise down there. mmm ... I never tasted roasted goat ... goat cheese yes gosh - 575miles with no sails - well I hope he's getting there before he won't be Yep... that's just one of the little challenges he faces. It's just a minor navigational issue though... not a cliffe. I can - because the Goat wrote it and he didn't put THE END in this chapter. OK, off to Edit-land :wacko: ACK! Emoe!!! I hope that by the end of the horrendous trip to Australia, that Trevor finds a way to communicate with his friends. After every chapter, I get more and more worried about things happening to him. This story is really emotional to me and make me think that you are a superb writer!!!! Thanks!!! Yep, they'll be getting worried about him. The next chapter is called "The Equation of Time" and should post in a half hour or so, assuming my internet connection (which is erratic at the moment) works.
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