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yeah just saw him come on at the tail end of the game just now... well done on going thru btw

Nice one Addy Neymar... so, er, who'd like this job? measuring up Neymar and the rest of the Brazil team.... taking all their measurements, checking out their muscles just in case there might be a few excess molecules of body fat - that sort of thing. Hmm?

Hmm, but this just raises more questions, like - what is "modern"? - and this pic does convey a political point, so it meets one of your criteria and - the point you made earlier - I guess you'd concede it's not "Anything that a normal, everyday person can do"

Just to recap what's already been posted... His performance art was not about losing his virginity - nor was it about sexual "whoring" - it was about provoking a response from others. OK, if you want to call this "attention whoring" then that's fair comment as your own view. But it doesn't really take us any further forward because you could say the same about anyone who seeks publicity about themselves and their work. It's my view that for something to be art - in whatever medium, which includes performance art - it must provoke an emotional response from others and in this case it is that very response which he intended to be his "performance art" and for which he will be graded. Interesting point. And, no, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. Maybe others can pick up on this if they want to contribute? .

I can't speak for the US, but in the UK art is so diverse and integral to the lives of so many - whether it's live theatre, museum / gallery attendance, craft fairs, street art, music, festivals [Glastonbury this week, Hay Literature last month, Cheltenham Arts, Malvern... on and on...] this will have zero impact on arts in the UK. The tabloid market - media and readers - has always regarded arts and artists as deeply suspect and, as you say, "the pseudo-intellectual crowd trying to outthink the dull masses". So nothing's changing there and Clayton's little caper has merely bruised the egos of the media hacks and readers who eagerly swallowed his bait whole .

You need to understand that "art" is a business just like any other, and artists have to promote themselves in more imaginative ways then ever before to attract the attention of jaded media. So to make the media the subject of a "performance artwork" - specifically, in this case, their reaction to a hoax on them - seems to me to have been highly imaginative, if not genius. Of course, it's a high-risk strategy because now he's alienated the tabloid and trash media when most artists strive to get all media onside - only time will tell And if you're not convinced about art being important - if you think they're a bunch of no-good wastrels - UK govt statistics for 2012 show that the creative industries contribute annually £71.8 billion to the UK economy. That's a lot of zeros It's 5.2% of the total UK economy. And 5.6% of all UK jobs too. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/creative-industries-worth-8million-an-hour-to-uk-economy

as performance art it's hard to deny it was pretty successful - the "performance" was the reactions from a big chunk of world media - and from some of the audience who maybe had their expectations disappointed - it's got people talking about what is (and in their view isn't) art this was his year two project, but it's also been pretty successful too as personal promotion - global media attention means he's now a known name - he did this without harming anyone or doing anything bad, he simply hoaxed a lot of folks who, in hindsight, probably now wish they'd responded better - he's now got exhibition offers for a European gallery tour of his next "show", a platform he would never have had otherwise Oh yeah, and not forgetting the publicity he's given for the banana industry...

Happy birthday W_L

Britain was a static population until the 18th century. Most people were born, lived and died in the same place. They didn't move around because they couldn't. No roads, no communication, no knowledge of people outside their locality and speech patterns evolved locally. As for Siobhan's video... Hmm, seems she was an actor who couldn't cut it in England so decided to cash in on her Britishness in the US of A but it's a shame she's gone the lazy route of simply imitating other mimics Received Pronunciation Good points - she pronounced pronunciation correctly Bad points - everything else. The BBC stopped speaking received pronunciation decades ago - read the angry letters from Tunbridge Wells... Heightened RP So she's watched Brief Encounter London So she watches East Enders - quite funny though "Shat it you taaart!" East Anglia er, go back to Mimic School, Siobhan West Country see 4 above Cornwall have you ever actually honestly really been there Siobhan? South Welsh Give Under Milk Wood a rest for a while... Northern Welsh Yeah, they do speak a lot of Welsh there Birmingham Poor old Brummies always get it in the neck for their accent. We'll never have a Brummie PM Scouse So she's watched sBrief Encounter a lot of Paul McCartney interviews Lancashire Yep, Siobhan's never been there either [enough!]

From November to January there was a lively thread in The Lounge about a 19 year old "losing his virginity in public as performance art". Some of you were disappointed when the thread was closed because you wanted to know what happened For those of you still interested, there's a pop media website with a detailed report on the night - with pictures I can't post the actual link because of US attitudes to birthday suits, but you know the guy's name - "Clayton Pettet". So if you google that then maybe you'll find the answer to... what actually happened at Art School Stole My Virginity? .

hedgehogs - maybe not the best role model...

You've confirmed what I've always thought - retail is a shitty job. But retail is sales, and if you're good at selling and like people why not research product or service areas you're interested in. If you can show real enthusiasm for a company's service or product and demonstrate this in, say, a speculative approach letter, or job application, and at interview, then you're more than half way to being hired. Think positive, decide where you want to be and what you want to be doing and make a plan how to get there. Good luck

Stephen Fry likes "very". I like Stephen Fry "The boys I fell for subsequently were usually very neat and very well behaved. Far too well behaved for my liking." "We were delighted to hear from Ian who is doing very well at Price Waterhouse" "Very" is the very essence of Fry's humour

why hide this in the back alleys of the blogs?

have fun Angeleyez

Yep, that presentation sure wouldn't work in this media age. But UK 1987 was a different country and a different people - it's difficult to understand how things worked then. In fact I don't know how traditional PSAs can be effective now, unless they're done with humour like wildone's brilliant examples, and organisations that try "cool" routes like viral marketing always look kind of ridiculous because that stuff only works by happenstance. I just feel there's a need for something else on this subject appropriate for now Both those PSAs were made around the same time but the Aussies were obviously aiming for the horror Oscar ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I'll be BACK!!" So, you thought this catch phrase comes from The Terminator? Wrong. More than 10 years earlier -1973 - it was the terrifying tag line in this UK PSA for 6-10 year olds that put a whole generation of kids into permanent trauma therapy....

John Hurt scared the f*%k out of Britain in the 1980s when this AIDS PSA was shown repeatedly on UK commercial channels... but it worked. It's still relevant and we probably need an updated version

Happy birthday Valkyrie! That cake looks deelicious *fixes hungry eyes on biggest piece...*

it's been a weekly comic strip in The Beano since 1951 and still going strong 63 years later - my fave comic character ever! .

There are no rules for crying and grieving. We come to terms with loss in our own way. My thoughts are with you

So - when is it unacceptable to chew gum?

but you would want reasonable odds of at least getting there

Urrgghh, Pepsi - evil stuff! Neat story

"I have a growing investment portfolio, some real estate, and a stable life that affords me anything a middle class man would want." But the only thing you can take with you is your tats Someone once said that all that truly matters in life is those you have loved, and those who have loved you.