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I would use it . I met a lot of my MSN buddies (and buddettes) in GA Chat. Chat rooms facilitate the ability to get to know new people.

Well put Menzo. I can't help but roll my eyes when I read how the poor, misunderstood, & persecuted bisexuals equate the two things :wacko: . I don't think anyone is saying bi-sexuals are all going to hell, should be send to re-education camps, nor should they be discriminated against in terms of housing, jobs, & civil rights. Fixed it with a word that rhymes Robbie As Kevin pointed out, statistically 75% of gay men are okay with dating a bisexual. So stop complaining you all

Glad to hear you got some good news . Hope the STD results come back clean. Take Care®, Vic 'Who got this icky feeling in his stomach from remember when the Doctor swabbed a Q-tip up my you know. That was 12 years ago and it still gives me the chills' :wacko:

Stereotyping? Judgemental? To a degree, yes . However, if I make the statement that 'I wouldn't date a priest...too many issues', would you be miffed at that too? I think we all have some criteria as to who we want as a significant other. Those criteria could be physical features (body types), Tops or Bottoms, Racial, income levels, age groups, and whether they are exclusively gay or Bi. Now maybe my criteria is too restrictive (thus explaining my single status), but it's what I like. You go with the Friends First thing, and I'll go with the Gay Only thing . Take Care®, Vic

Kevin, I think you made a good point about the levels of closetedness. I voted yes, I could date someone who's closeted (if I were attracted to them enough), but only if I felt they were making progress towards coming out. It was hard for many of us to come out and I would hate to force someone out further then they were willing to be. But they have to be willing to stick their toes into the water and hopefully one day be comfortable enough to be out a respectable distance. I remember when I was first dating my Ex (we had been together for about a month). We were shopping in the Monkey Wards and about 100 feet away, I see my mom. I literally push what's his name away from me in a panick , so that it didn't seem like we were together. There was hell to pay after that . I'm happy to say that 12 years later, I'm much more open about my gayness, but back in the day, yikes I was a case :wacko: . Take Care®, Vic 'Who's head hurts from all this thinking that Kevin's makin us do'

Kevin, I'm trying not to sound naive and don't get me wrong, I do believe & know that some gay guys leave their BFs for other guys. However, I try to find the guy(s) who won't do that. It was hard enough worrying about an S.O. finding interest in another guy, but dating a Bi-Guy just means that you have to worry about him finding interest in women too. The population of potential homewreckers just doubled (if not tripled or quadrupled!). I personally wouldn't want to date a Bi-Guy, to me, it's just asking for more trouble. One day he's going to want to scratch the hetero itch. Sure, he may be monogamous to me whilst we are together, but is he truly happy? Is he truly complete? "Hey Vic, we had a good couple of years, I'm going to date Mary now." When I look for a potential partner, I'm looking for the long run...for better & worse, sickness & health, death do you part, yada yada. I'm not only looking for monogamous until we break up, I'm looking for the long/long term committment. And I want someone to be with me because they want to, not out of obligation or loyalty. I want them to complete me, & for me to complete them. Vic

There's nothing wrong with you being bi, but to the exclusively gay of us, you don't make good S.O. material. Why would I want to commit to a long term relationship with someone who may bail on me when he does 'figure out his identity' is to be with a lady? But as I said there's nothing wrong with you. At this stage you might make a good f buddy, or the pal who helps me fix my car . Take Care, Vic

Go Cowboys!!!! I'm a bears fan and have to side against the cheeseheads And Tony Romo, he's just way to frickin cute!

So very true. It might start innocently enough, but given enough time, it could develop into something more. If you see your current S.O. doing this, stop it all costs. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Vic 'Who's still bitter about the little sh*t homewrecker'

Purely from a global public policy perspective, I think abortion and all other types of family planning are crucial to limiting & slowing the growth of the human population on this planet. Vic

Ughhhh, please don't remind me. It's gotten so bad that when I saw this cute guy in a picture on the LA Times, I google him and found this video of him on YouTube: Isn't he dreamy? He runs a game software company and he's 39yo I lust him.

I just thought of something Joe. No more telling your BF's about GA until after 6 months of successful dating. We don't need the extra drama here when you break their hearts.

, I'm not sure what atypical means (the definition)...but basically... I'm pretty particular that I only date gay guys, so if my S.O. cheated on me with a chick, I wouldn't feel so bad compared to them cheating on me with a dude. If my BF cheated on me with a chick, then I'm assume the problem was 'them' and not me...Their inner heterosexual has come out of the closet and they are only following their heart. They were never really gay and I couldn't ever see myself dating a bi-dude. If my BF cheated on me with a dude, I'd be pissed. Public displays of anger pissed. Dishes hurled, bitch slaps tossed, insults yelled. My Ex and I broke up because he was 'cheating' on me with another guy. Not physical cheating in that they did the 'JSMITH whatever', but he mentally cheated on me by having a mental relationship with another dude. Because it wasn't physical cheating, it was harder to define and I couldn't point to one event, but lets just say that the mental cheating over a one year period led to some ugliness. We're friends now (and he's not dating that Dude anymore), but there's no way I would get back together with him cause he's a cheater. Anywhooo, thanks for setting up this forum

Well, I'd take it as a compliment that so many guys find you attractive and it appears that they can't seem to live without you. I think you are going along the right track...telling him you need space. What you could do is tell him that if he can go one week without calling or bugging you, to give you both a chance to think, that you MIGHT consider going back out with him. In all honestly, you won't really consider it, but tell him that anyway . Hopefully in the one week you'll have a chance to rest, and hopefully it will give him a chance to de-obsess about you and find someone else to stalk. Anywhoo, good luck with the crazies. Vic

It sounds like you just have some stray greys. Nothing to worry about. If you want, you can just pluck those four out. You should start worrying when they start showing up down there. And grey is still better then loosing it. Take care, Vic

Hey Colin, not to be a debbie downer, but while it is easy to apply for domestic partnership in CA, you might have to go through a full fledged divorce (buddha forbid that happens to you & Doug). You've probably seen this but, here's a link to the CA Secretary of State site: http://www.sos.ca.gov/dpregistry/dp_faqs.htm <--- (side note: I first read that as 'dp fags') Basically, you can 'terminate a domestic partnership' the easy way if you meet certain conditions.

Happy Birthday!!!!! Hope you have a great one!

I would never share Dom's picture, let alone post it in public!

Oh, and for us 'old timers' did everyone realize that Debbie from QAF was Cagney from Cagney & Lacey? And if anyone is looking for good homo music, the QAF music CD's are pretty good if you like dancey/high energy songs. Not only are they good dancey songs, but many of the lyrics are homospecific. Here are the lyrics from two of my favourites: And this is a remake of 'High School Confidential' by Carole Pope. It was on the QAF first season CD...I think

Happy 18th Birthday!!!!! Hope you and your BF celebrate it in style

Blake was my favourite looking character too. He was just soooo cute!!!! Vic

Ummmm... How about giving us what's already done, like....ummmm.... ITFB Ch 21 Vic 'Who's not trying to sound too greedy'

One of my good friends is a Philisophy professor, so I'm going to send her your musings about Philosophy Oh, and I enjoyed your story! Although you thought it wasn't some of your better stuff, believe you me compared to the drivel I see being put out by Seniors in college here, you write good well. You don't want it to be too good otherwise your professors might be suspicious . Take Care®, Vic

So last Tuesday, I went to my first spinning class. For those of you who don't know what spinning is, it's a class at the health club where a group of you ride on these cycle machines and pretent your climbing up and down hill by varying the speed and resistance on the cycles & changing how you are either sitting or gripping the handlebars. Oh and an instructor is constantly yelling at you to turn it up, or pedal faster, shoulders down, tummy in, & stick your ass out! I've been going to this gym for five years now, and I've been riding the exercise bikes forever, so I thought that spinning would be a piece of cake. Boy was I wrong!!! I haven't had such an intense workout in ages. Sweat was dripping down from my face in a steady stream. Toward the end of the class, instead of actually turning up the resistance, I was so beat that I just pretended by making the hand motion. Anyhow, I really liked the class and will be going again tomorrow (tuesday). However, the reason I started going was that there was this cute guy in the class. I have been keeping an eye on him at the gym for a couple months now (read stalking), and decided to take the class in hopes of finding a reason to chat with him. He's probably about 6ft, 33-35ish, thin, brown hair, light skin, deer in headlights/F*ck me look in his eyes, etc. Well, I saw where he placed his bike, so instead of being totally obvious and placing my bike next to his, I place it on the other side of the room where I had a good view of him in the mirror , but he wouldn't know that I was just staring at him. About one minute before class started, this asian guy walks in and positions his bike right next to cute guy's. I inwardly groan, but figure it was just coincidence. Since the class was pretty intense, I didn't really have time to obsess over cute guy, but I did sneak a glance or two..or twelve. At the end of the class though, cute guy walks over to the water fountain and just as I start heading over there, the asian guy beats me to it and starts chatting with cute guy. I head to the locker room, and cute guy walks in a few minutes later. The locker room is packed, and since we were at opposite ends, I packed up my stuff and started leaving. I figured I'd walk slow and have a reason to run into cute guy as he was walking out of the club. We could chat about how intense the class was, etc. Well, sure enough, asian guy was waiting outside and started chatting with cute guy. I figure my chance for the day is blown, so I head to my car. As I pulled out of the parking lot, I saw that asian guy had followed cute guy to his car and was still chatting with him!!!!! It sooo figures!!!! There are only 3 guys in the spinning class, me, cute guy, and other asian guy. I blow my chance to chat with cute guy, and a fellow asian steps in and takes him from me!!!! Curses!!! I'm not even sure cute guy is gay, but there are signs. Now I just have to find a way to get rid of the competition :2hands: . Vic 'Who's not used to pursuing'

Sorry this is off topic, but that doesn't seem to be the same Menzo who went all blah blah blah to Kevin & I about being honest with dates and such in the A Guide to Boyfriends thread. Vic 'who no longer feels guilty for little white lies' P.S. - I vote for London