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For Christmas, Graeme, I've asked Santa to uncomplicate you!! Conner

New Members! Bah! Humbug! Ok, so I just finished watching A Christmas Carol....the one with Alister Sims, made in 1951. Scrooge is one of my favourite Christmas characters. Conner

There once was a 4 headed giant whose names were Jup, Grit, Kay, and Nigel. They lived on a planet far from our own, quite by themself. This was a good thing because they didn't appreciate company. That is, unless the heads were fighting with each other. And oh, how they would fight, especially the one female self, Kay, who always felt she was outnumbered and ignored by her three brother selfs.Kay sometimes wished that her brothers were girls. Alas, that was not to be; she would have to make do.

There once was a 4 headed giant whose names were Jup, Grit, Kay, and Nigel. They lived on a planet far from our own, quite by themself. This was a good thing because they didn't appreciate company.

From a slightly different perspective, it was a good thing that Bud arrived when he did. Had he arrived another 20 or 30 minutes later, who knows what he would have witnessed! Michael's suggestion to his father that they all double date.... Ok, so here's where I think the story is going. As CJ predicts, Cray's biological dad shows up and tries to rebuild a relationship with his long abandoned son. As chance would have it, Cray's dad is gay, too. That's why he left so many years ago. Cray's dad and Bud fall in love. Cray's dad eventually asks his son to live with Bud and him...and Michael, too, of course. Drew and Bob, while they see the good sense in this proposal, are inconsolable. They resist giving Cray uo. Mario shows up and sets them straight on doing what's best for Cray. Mario reminds them that they still are certified foster parents. Mario and Nick arrage financing for Drew and Bob to purchase a new home so they can foster more young men like Cray. Bob resigns his job and becomes a full time stay-at-home dad. Drew and Bob are blissful. Cray and Michael fall deeply in love and commit to one another. Final chapter: the young mafioso Jr. is kicked out of military school having been found performing felatio on another student. As a favour to the organization, Mario takes the young mafioso under his wing and trains him to be an escort....either that or Mario makes him his full time bitch. Who needs authors when you have an imagination. Great chapter, Jack! Conner

Happy B-day, Nerotorb!!! As your birthday treat, here are the lyrirs from the song "18 'til I die" by Bryan Adams (a Canadian, I should add) I wanna be young the rest of my life never say no - try anything twice til the angels come and ask me to fly I'm gonna be 18 til I die - 18 til I die can't live forever that's wishful thinkin' who ever said that must of bin' drinkin' don't wanna grow up I don't see why I couldn't care less if time flies by 18 til I die - gonna be 18 til I die it sure feels good to be alive someday I'll be 18 goin' on 55! - 18 til I die anyway - I just wanna say why bother with what happened yesterday it's not my style I live for the minute if ya wanna stay young get both feet in it - 18 til I die a 'lil bit of this - a 'lil bit of that 'lil bit of everything - gotta get on track it's not how ya look, it's what ya feel inside I don't care when - I don't need ta know why 18 til I die - gonna be 18 til I die ya it sure feels good to be alive someday I'll be 18 goin' on 55! - 18 til I die ya there's one thing for sure - I'm sure gonna try don't worry 'bout the future - forget about the past gonna have a ball - ya we're gonna have a blast gonna make it last - 18 til I die

Congrats on your first anniversary, Beasty! Post whore is such a vulgar term. Instead, I think of you, CJ and Kevin as being prolifically proactive! Thanks for your substantial contribution to GA! Conner

You're in the right subforum. You may want to ask one of the mods or admin folks to move this thread to efiction discussion. Your story is in efiction here at GA. Great start to your story. I did leave you some comments already. Is this your first story? Conner

I guess I have a more liberal outlook on this incident. Providing there was full consent on the part of the minor. I really don't see this as criminal behaviour. Were they stupid and careless? For sure. Amazingly enough, the age of consent across Canada is 14. There's an important exception for adults who are in a position of authority or trust in relation to the minor in the age range 14 to 17, e.g. police, bosses, teachers, etc. In practice, there's a double standard around gender that often comes into play when the minor is male and the adult is a woman. Conner

Yes, I prefer my faggots porked, too!! Conner

Greg, you are truly the voice of reason. Ok, I have an idea. Let's all imagine (that means you make pictures in your head) Jamie in perfect health and fitness. Here we go. The sit-ups have caused Jamie's abs to adopt an ebb and flow look. Yes, just like that washboard my mother use to use. His shoulders are broader. When he gives a high-five to a buddy, I notice the tone in his forearm and bicep. His tee moves up sligtly showing a flat stomach with a hint of pec development in his chest. I catch a short glimpse of his treasure trail....... Excuse me, I have to go now...

I agree. There are a lot of words out there in public use that offend someone, somwhere. Censorship is not the answer. I know that. It's always been a double edged sword anyway. If I can censor others, others can censor me. Frankly, I'm not going on about censorship. I believe in freedom of speech. I wouldn't touch it if I could. With censorship, we'd all be "tip-toeing through the tulips." It may be peaceful, but it'll definitely be boring to say the least. Where does that leave us? One step might be to grow a thicker shin and develop come-back lines. I believe many of us have done that. What I don't want to see is gay men developing a complacency around words that are derogatory to us. The word "faggot" is derogatory to gay men no matter what context in which it is used. So let's not go off on imaginary tangents such as "artistic freedom". Yes, they can say it, they can sing it, they can sky-write it. But let's not pretend it's artistic. Let's not pretend it's anything more than what it is....and that's vulgarity. Now, vulgarity sells. I know that too. Gratuitous vulgarity sells even better because that way we can pretend that the vulgarity is directed somewhere else and not at us. That's the stuff rose-coloured glasses are made of. If we were to take offence to it, we might actually have to stand up and say something. Then again, maybe I need to take a chill pill. Conner

Wisdom, like many other things, is in the eye of the beholder. I agree that playing a censored version of the song was a poor decision on the part of BBC 1. If they were truly interested in being a principle-centered broadcaster, their decision should have been not to play the song at all. Had they done that, then the following question begs an answer, "Does being a public corpoation disqualify the BBC from making principle-centered decisions? I have no difficulty what so ever in BBC 1 being called to task on such a decision. Conner

I'm quite disappointed that the BBC radio 1 reversed itself. If you're going to take a stand on moral grounds, then stick with it. They just lost all credibility in my eyes. Their new motto should be "We here at BBC 1 have moral standards....subject to public opinion, that is." So some of you are saying that use of the word "faggot" in the context of this song is part of the creative process? Really? Some of you are saying that use of the word "faggot" in the context of this song isn't an insult to homosexuals. Really? Aren't the Emperor's clothes lovely. Conner

You're not anorexic, Jamie. Anorexics have a severely distorted body image. You're quoting acceptable weight ranges. Sorry, you don't qualify. Nice try though. You've lost 20 lbs since September. w00t! w00t! That is no easy task, let me tell you. I get that you're motivated. You have every reason to be motivated......just turned 18, first year uni, good looking dude, on your own away from mom, exploring who you are, looking for some kind of relationship. Damn right you're losing weight. Sounds to me like your head is screwed on just right. As you've been dealing with weight issues since late childhood, you no doubt have beliefs or paradigms around your physical appearance. Something like "I'm a fat person" or "I'll always be fat" or "Fat runs in my family" or whatever it is for you. Vic's advice to ask a trusted friend who'll be totally honest with you is excellent. (I hate agreeing with Vic. ). There are likely "professionals" (probably kinesiology majors) employed ay the uni's gym. They'll also give you good advice. It's all about diet (nutrition) and exercice. A little muscle toning is never a bad idea. <removes drool from chin> If only I were you! Conner

Been there, done that! I think that applies to about 99% of us... the fear of rejection and all that psycho-babble. Why is it that we humans have this overwhelming need to "fix" our friends...make them feel better...and all that. Yes, it's human, I know, but usually unproductive. I keep thinking, "Maybe it'll work this time!" So, in that context, I'm going to make two suggestions. Go alone to the bar sometimes (or wherever). If you get rejected, it won't be in front of your friends. I know for me, when friends are egging me on, I dig my heels in even deeper. Being alone may encourage some dude to approach you as well. The other thing is to have a "canned" line or three ready to go in case of rejection. Something like, "I feel like a member of the javelin throwing team and it's my turn to catch." Humour lessons the blow. Conner

If I go to hell, I'm getting there early enough to get a suite, not a seat.....so I can entertain all the 'hot' gay dudes.

Pool parties are always fun!!! Crazy Eric! :wacko: Scared the crap out of me!!! I'm just glad Eric's jump from the roof didn't turn into a c----h-----. Jon and Eric are being very protective of both Chase and Brandon. Don't anyone go and get attached to any employees of the Scar and Dimitri road show. I believe the Scar hasn't farted in 3 years. He's gotta ease up. I think Jan has the best explanation for Wilde's behaviour. I'm hoping it's much simpler than that, though. Maybe some gay dude hit on him rather intensely and for that reason he's very uncomfortable with gay men.. Maybe Wolfe believes he's irresistible to gay men...with his goth look and all so he's playing it low key. Then again, Eric could be totally out to lunch in terms of reading the boys.

Happy B-Day, Jan!!! All the best Conner

For me, the story has become all about Mario. I adore the guy. Does anyone want to know how I would react if Mario asked me to kiss him on the lips but no tongue? Mario is definitely gonna go far in his uhhhmm....line of work. He has a great business sense, a total team player and shows compassion for the people under his....guidance. Great chapter, Jack! Conner

Frankly, I'm losing patience with Zach. He doesn't seem to know where his off switch is....or even a time-out switch. Mind you, that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying the story. Right now, and maybe for the last few chapters, Zach is his own biggest enemy. On the other hand, Sara's suggestion for a 3-way with Jeremy caught my attention. Yes, I'm definitely undecided here. Conner

Go elf yourself!

I have to agree with Kevin. That's definitely a win-win for you and Dwayne. Time and perspective will heal you all....and leave you both with new found wisdom. w00t! Conner

Great word! Conner

So, James, I guess this means you didn't elf yourself. Conner