Viv..if you get a chance read the short story by Annie Proulx which is what "Brokeback Mountain" was base on. Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana really did the short story proud when they did their screen play.

The problem with Ennis (and I say bollocks to those who say he was bisexual..nope he was Gay) was that he was fearful of accepting who he is..remember the scene in the movie where he worried out loud that people would pass him in the street and some how would think or know he was Gay..he had lots of self acceptance issues/his own inner homophobia issues) Also, remember, the setting of 1963 in the beginning of the movie..that was pre Stonewall and way before the Gay rights movement was in existence.

Let's also remember the setting of Wyoming....the same state where Matthew Shepard was strung up on fence posts in the Wyoming wilderness to die after being brutally beaten.

The story is very sad...it seems that Jack developed far more as a person and had a lot of courage....Ennis was fearful and couldn't over come his own fears....and it was too late for him....when he realized in Jack's old boyhood room...what he lost....its a powerful story of human emotions.

As to Rory and Seth (just as Davey and Chris described) Rory had no fear of losing his virginity because, IMHO, he was in a loving relationship and he knew and trusted Seth....who was tender, patient and loving....

Beyond all that I hope you are doing well:) Huggles sent your way:)

Michael

Ok now I am pissed off. I hit the wrong key on the keyboard it backed me up a page only now when I pressed forward it erased everything I already typed. Now I know how you felt.

Anyway, I don't even know what I said, I guess Fate didn't want me to say it. :nuke: '

As for you DD question, I think Dom was trying to prortray other elements in this one rather then what he was doing with Quinn or with Owen. In regards to guys I don't know, but I know one thing.. well ok I guess I'm sort of admiting this one.. if I ever find someone I felt like I could give myself in that way, then They would have to be on top and our faces would be facing each other or else I think I would totally freak out. I have my reasons, I've stated some on my own blog, and you know the others.

Anyway, I hope you got some of you story back that you lost. By the way, when is the next chapter coming out? Now that Dom's going back to work and DD is done we need our fix so I'm doing a Mikie....

tap.. tap... tap.

Until next time,

later

Wow sooooooo long.

Okies popped in to say, happy for you and rich but ya know me and my lil inocent mind couldn't handle #4, sowwys

-Nate

6. So, normally, I have this guy Davey I ask all sorts of boy questions to, especially gay sex ones cause... well let's face facts here, I am neither a guy nor am I gay so... and he is always so sweet and so helpful and never ever embarrased or offended. But this one I have now... well I would like to know what all of you have to say. It's just something that popped into my head reading DD and made me wonder what guys feel in this situation. I know for girls, it's a HUGE deal... losing your virginity. It's something you envision a certain way, and it's a big deal when it finally happens. So the question I have is this... In DD it seemed to me that Rory and Seth, when they had sex for the first time, Rory's first time specifically, he wasn't hardly at all terrified nor did he struggle much with making the decision of whom to give his virginity to. What's important to you when you give it up, like what requirements do you have, if any, and did you have a scenario that you envisioned before it happened? If so, how did it compare to your imagination and was it with the same person you imagined it would be?

Ummm, Rory was nervous when he thought Seb wanted to top tim, but he handled his 'first' time well because he was the top(less pressure). While being a top for the first time is somewhat important, I think 'loosing your cherry' by bottoming is more monumental.

I think most guys are scared that something so big will be going 'up there'. So the first time for that is scary. But topping? meh... Not to much pressure, just fun

Vic

Ummm, Rory was nervous when he thought Seb wanted to top tim, but he handled his 'first' time well because he was the top(less pressure). While being a top for the first time is somewhat important, I think 'loosing your cherry' by bottoming is more monumental.

 

I think most guys are scared that something so big will be going 'up there'. So the first time for that is scary. But topping? meh... Not to much pressure, just fun

 

Vic

Hey Viv

I think I mostly agree with Vic (though I don't remember a Seb and Tim from DD, and I don't know why Rory was meddling in their business ). I think bottoming is a much more emotional, step. Not to try to analyize women or anything, but perhaps that's why it's such a monumental step for them as well. Maybe it's just naturally more intense and emotional the first time someone "comes inside", and of course there's a big issue of trust involved. Not that I'm downplaying the seriousness of topping for the first time. I think anytime two people decide to make love for the first time (even if it ISN'T their individual first times), it's a really big step. Of course as Michael pointed out they were in a good relationship, and I'm sure Rory trusted Seth and felt "ready". I've always said TLW has absolutely the best first time love scene I've ever read. I mean WOW, I think EVERYONE'S first time should be like that . I guess it just depends on the person and who they're with/how ready they are.

As for Brokeback, I agree with you. I see the cultural significance, and it does convey a powerful message, but I wasn't that crazy about it myself. It just wasn't really my type of story. I think it was probably a little too dark for tastes, with regards to "romantic" movies that is. I don't know if you've seen Closer but I LOVED that movie, and it was completely negative about love and romance. I think the reason I liked it so much though is because that's what I was expecting, I went into it thinking "Okay this is a movie about how messed up people's relationships can get". Whereas with Brokeback it was trumpeted as a "great love story" and I kept trying to see everything through that lens (and seriously if you ask me their "love" wasn't that healthy or positive). A better theme would have been "dangers of the closet" or "what happens when you can't accept yourself". In fact I'm sure if I'd viewed it more with those principles in mind (or completely without expectation), I'd have liked it a lot more. I'm not saying Jack and Ennis didn't care about each other, but they just didn't express it very well, and did far too many questionable things in their private lives to be admirable characters (which could be said for the folks in Closer, but again I went into wanting and expecting to see screwed up relationships with heavily flawed people). For me a great love story should make you say to yourself "awwww, I want that!" or "awwww! I have that". When I saw Brokeback I just thought how tragic the whole thing was and kept thinking "gee, I don't want that".

Anyway have an awesome day and take care

Kevin

Hi Viv

I took the IQ test and got the follow:

"Are you sure your alive, dumb people like you are a wast of breath."

Only kidding!!!!!!

This was my real result:

Congratulations, Eric!

Your IQ score is 127

This number is based on a scientific formula that compares how many questions you answered correctly on the Classic IQ Test relative to others.

Your Intellectual Type is Visionary Philosopher. This means you are highly intelligent and have a powerful mix of skills and insight that can be applied in a variety of different ways. Like Plato, your exceptional math and verbal skills make you very adept at explaining things to others

Congratulations, Kevin!

Your IQ score is 136

This number is based on a scientific formula that compares how many questions you answered correctly on the Classic IQ Test relative to others.

Your Intellectual Type is Visionary Philosopher. This means you are highly intelligent and have a powerful mix of skills and insight that can be applied in a variety of different ways. Like Plato, your exceptional math and verbal skills make you very adept at explaining things to others