[dkstories] Davey's Mom

[Novelty]

I've been getting complaints from the regular Danaholics that Davey's mom's being a bitch. Well, she might be a bit hard on Davey, but personally, I don't think she IS being bitchy, she's just being a mom. What she's doing seems to fit rather well to her character. I'm surprised to see she hasn't taken up drinking yet, nor has that been mentioned significantly which is good. Overally, Dan has been trying to improve Davey's family situation this time around and I think he's succeeding. So what if Sandy is having huge confrontation with Davey every once in a while? That's just normal and part of family life IMO.

 

Feel free to disagree with me though...

[drf]

i think shes a big bitch

[Novelty]

i think shes a big bitch

Why do you think that Danny?

[drf]

look at the way she talks to him she trys anything to get the upper hand. he i was davy i would have told her to shove it then move and get brian back into my life

[hughmelbourne]

I think she's being a bitch, but out of concern for Davey.

 

She is still his mother, and if the only way she can confirm that to herself-and Davey is to be a bit nasty about it, I think it's worth it. It's not like she's being actively malicious.

[Guest emily]

Davey's Mom I think is being really true to form. As a (former? potential?) alcoholic, DK has shown us that she doesn't handle pressure well. She is still a loving woman, but is a WEAK, loving woman. Her stress right now is manifesting itself in her confrontational attitude. People who don't have good self-control, or have self image issues, are often seen to have control issues in other areas. (thinking of one of Dom Luka's stories right now) I think that what comes next is really going to show us how much she loves Davey.

[kitjed23]

Yeah, I think Davey's Mom is reacting as a lot of people would if they found out that their 12 year old had become a 60 year old over night.

 

In a real way, she must be grieving for the son she loved and raised for ten years. He doesn't exist anymore, he blinked out of existence without her even noticing, and now all she has is this man who's older than her, who looks just like him. And it wasn't an accident. This man became the person his is deliberately - and then put himself into her son, also deliberately.

 

No wonder she's resentful, and finding it difficult to just say 'I love you honey' and then going to work as if nothing happened, as if her son isn't, for all intents and purposes, dead.

 

Mother's react in very strange ways sometimes. When I was 14 I had a minor nervous breakdown and rather melodramatic suicide attempt (which involved listening to 'Angie Baby' on the CD player and gobbling paracetemol and sherry). My mother's reaction to this was to buy me a college textbook on the practice of cognitive therapy, and tell me to read it.

 

Sometimes I wonder I came out as sane as I did. (And don't nobody make the obvious comment! )

[solacelenity]

I agree with ya there Kit. Her reaction seems normal under the conditions. I just hope things get better!

 

Love and Peace,

Solace

[dkstories]

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[Bocian]

I'd say helping organize the religious intervention for Davey in DO was pretty bitchy despite taking a backseat during the actual conflict. And now, we see more of that side of Susan (Sandy? We'll just say "Mom") now and she is becoming a more forceful woman.

 

I think a major difference in Mom between DO and DOR is that in this one she does not understand the debt she owes Davey. In DO, he immediately started cooking supper at home, taking a chore off her hands. I know when I started doing that for my Mom, her perception of me and my time management changed immensely. Likewise, he stood up for her in front of Dad and prevented the molestation of Jenny in a way she could observe. And when she needed a job, he was the one who found one for her, a fact she found out before she knew about the Do Over. In this timeline, she doesn't realize how much Davey has influenced Dad for the better, therefore Mom doesn't know how much gratitude she owes Davey. In DO, Davey had openly taken the role of her champion before she found out and that coloured her perception of him. In DOR, his advocacy on her and Jenny's behalf has only been privately conducted between him and Dad and unobserved by the rest of the family.

 

Also, due to the inherent need to condense a story from real time (i.e. we don't mention every time a character needs the bathroom, opens the fridge door, or wanks off), we only see part of Mom and Davey's interactions. There may have been times in the period between finding out and the death of her family that she forgot her distaste for him and they interacted normally, even lovingly. But showing those times wouldn't push the plot forward. What Dan chooses to show to keep the plot moving does not mean their relationship is any less complicated than anyone else's--we should not assume there are no good times mixed with the bad.

 

Kicking him out of the house is simply displacement of her anger from the Chinese to Davey since she had become predisposed to find fault in him already and he is tangible to her. A little counselling (even coming from Dad) may eventually reconcile her to Davey, but I think another component of the reconciliation will need to be seeing how Davey has helped her. That might require Dad being painfully honest about his darker secrets.

 

Until then, we can hope that Дядя and Тётя Руcанов (the Rushes), now that they are coming to Eureke, will take on a somewhat parental role this time around as well. Тётя can be a сука (bitch) too, but I really like her.

 

So yes, Mom does seem to be a real bitch, but that is the logical consequence of the changes made in this timeline and it makes her more complex and human.

 

Anyway, I think it's also important to remember that this makes Davey a son of a bitch.

Edited May 12, 2005 by Bocian

[Rad]

I'd say helping organize the religious intervention for Davey in DO was pretty bitchy despite taking a backseat during the actual conflict.  And now, we see more of that side of Susan (Sandy? We'll just say "Mom") now and she is becoming a more forceful woman.

 

I think a major difference in Mom between DO and DOR is that in this one she does not understand the debt she owes Davey.  In DO, he immediately started cooking supper at home, taking a chore off her hands.  I know when I started doing that for my Mom, her perception of me and my time management changed immensely.  Likewise, he stood up for her in front of Dad and prevented the molestation of Jenny in a way she could observe.  And when she needed a job, he was the one who found one for her, a fact she found out before she knew about the Do Over.  In this timeline, she doesn't realize how much Davey has influenced Dad for the better, therefore Mom doesn't know how much gratitude she owes Davey.  In DO, Davey had openly taken the role of her champion before she found out and that coloured her perception of him.  In DOR, his advocacy on her and Jenny's behalf has only been privately conducted between him and Dad and unobserved by the rest of the family.

 

Also, due to the inherent need to condense a story from real time (i.e. we don't mention every time a character needs the bathroom, opens the fridge door, or wanks off), we only see part of Mom and Davey's interactions. There may have been times in the period between finding out and the death of her family that she forgot her distaste for him and they interacted normally, even lovingly.  But showing those times wouldn't push the plot forward.  What Dan chooses to show to keep the plot moving does not mean their relationship is any less complicated than anyone else's--we should not assume there are no good times mixed with the bad.

 

Kicking him out of the house is simply displacement of her anger from the Chinese to Davey since she had become predisposed to find fault in him already and he is tangible to her.  A little counselling (even coming from Dad) may eventually reconcile her to Davey, but I think another component of the reconciliation will need to be seeing how Davey has helped her.  That might require Dad being painfully honest about his darker secrets.

 

Until then, we can hope that Дядя and Тётя Руcанов (the Rushes), now that they are coming to Eureke, will take on a somewhat parental role this time around as well. Тётя can be a сука (bitch) too, but I really like her.

 

So yes, Mom does seem to be a real bitch, but that is the logical consequence of the changes made in this timeline and it makes her more complex and human. 

 

Anyway, I think it's also important to remember that this makes Davey a son of a bitch.

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Hehehehehe, Bocian, I never thought about that. If Davey's mom a bitch then he's a sonf of a bitch. hahahahaha.

 

Anyway, her grief might be justified. Her lashings at Davey too since she's devastated. But her words at his bedroom about him not being her son was not. She just can't accept it. Plain and simple. She has this complex like Derek's dad. Wanna know everything.

 

That's what I think.

 

Cheers!

 

Rad

 

Rad

[EMoe57]

A thought just occurred to me and I'm not where I can devote the time to research it...

Mom knows Davey is a time traveller - but does she know he's gay? Dad knows, but I don't recall any hint from Mom that she knows. Given her current disposition, should she discover Davey's gay while the current rift is in place, she may never recover!