jenni Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 ^^ To some degree, Robbie and Brad had to deal with that in Be Rad and Man in Motion. By the time Robbie got out of prison in the latter story, Brad had to be pretty rough with him to get Robbie off, as I recall. Brad didn't have to exactly recreate a rape scene, but couldn't be gentle, either, and that was because of Robbie being repeatedly raped in high school and prison. I don't think Wade's going to react that way, but he's going to have a hard time getting over what's going on. He may even be mad at Matt for finding out.
Enric Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 .....toting a purse..... Something with big flowers on it. Uh, you mean that you do have that sort of handbag in your equipment dear Mark, I always knew you have kinks... that sort of 'purse' would have been unknown to me, had you not described it. Even women in my country appear to favor one-color handbags. I am not able to recall to seeing any often handbags with garish depictations, held even by females here. Perhaps that's a difference between female kinks here and female kinks in America. Or, are garishly featured handbags there the territory of transvestites and transgendereds there in America... by the way, do some married men have kinks to share their wife's things, and/or clothes, and/or make-up.... ? Transvestisism is somewhat of an unknown territory to me. I think I am spoiled: having been -many many years- 'given' guys who dress as boy....
Vacartu Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Hi y'all! Five chapters ago, I thought: Mmmhh... that Wade was abused by his father, that's why he's so out of it during sex. Specially the way he described his sexual experiences. But maybe it was my own crazy self who has watched far too many movies. After reading the last chapter I started clicking to find Mark's email and share my conspiracy theories, you all beat me to the punch by far. Didn't even know the forum existed. Silly me. And yes, he's protecting his brother. Obviously. And in 1998, Nokia's Startac was already in everybody's hands. You don't believe me? Google it. Besides with Stef's investments in technology, he had access to prototypes for newer models even if they were not for sell yet. http://en.wikipedia....otorola_StarTAC Oh, Wade's dad was abused as a child. Probably by his father too. Is definitely not gay, but his whole psyche is shattered. That's why he's so mean with everybody, including the voters and specially the family. He probably sees himself in Wade and cannot control what he's doing. When Matt finds out, Wade is gonna need a lot of therapy. And I don't think that recreate the scene will help, but he does need to confront his father. Edited December 1, 2009 by Vacartu
paya Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Hi y'all! Five chapters ago, I thought: Mmmhh... that Wade was abused by his father, that's why he's so out of it during sex. Specially the way he described his sexual experiences. But maybe it was my own crazy self who has watched far too many movies. After reading the last chapter I started clicking to find Mark's email and share my conspiracy theories, you all beat me to the punch by far. Didn't even know the forum existed. Silly me. And yes, he's protecting his brother. Obviously. And in 1998, Nokia's Startac was already in everybody's hands. You don't believe me? Google it. Besides with Stef's investments in technology, he had access to prototypes for newer models even if they were not for sell yet. http://en.wikipedia....otorola_StarTAC Oh, Wade's dad was abused as a child. Probably by his father too. Is definitely not gay, but his whole psyche is shattered. That's why he's so mean with everybody, including the voters and specially the family. He probably sees himself in Wade and cannot control what he's doing. When Matt finds out, Wade is gonna need a lot of therapy. And I don't think that recreate the scene will help, but he does need to confront his father. Welcome to GA Vacartu! And I think you're right! Why didn't that occur to me his dad could be a victim too! But still then - why do people abuse their children? 8) 1
Mark M Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Hi y'all! Five chapters ago, I thought: Mmmhh... that Wade was abused by his father, that's why he's so out of it during sex. Specially the way he described his sexual experiences. But maybe it was my own crazy self who has watched far too many movies. After reading the last chapter I started clicking to find Mark's email and share my conspiracy theories, you all beat me to the punch by far. Didn't even know the forum existed. Silly me. And yes, he's protecting his brother. Obviously. And in 1998, Nokia's Startac was already in everybody's hands. You don't believe me? Google it. Besides with Stef's investments in technology, he had access to prototypes for newer models even if they were not for sell yet. http://en.wikipedia....otorola_StarTAC Oh, Wade's dad was abused as a child. Probably by his father too. Is definitely not gay, but his whole psyche is shattered. That's why he's so mean with everybody, including the voters and specially the family. He probably sees himself in Wade and cannot control what he's doing. When Matt finds out, Wade is gonna need a lot of therapy. And I don't think that recreate the scene will help, but he does need to confront his father. Welcome Vacartu, i love your theory, couldn't have said it better myself!! i would find it hard to catch up on the form though, there's 30 pages of comments now.....i must ask....did you read them all?? On another note, so we get more new people Mark i think you should post the link to your chapter and to your form, if you just don't link to the form on your signiture. :o I reccomend this then we can get new talkers in here. Alright guys i give it up you all had cell phones....they just didn't enter my school untill grade 9 so...(2005?) and i didn't get my first untill grade 11. (Postponed it cuz i thought they were just stupid. lol to think now i never leave the house without it...and if matt's carrying something like that nokia around i do not feel at all bad that he smashed it. Either way didn't like how mark introudces the new technology into the CAP series....right now there in the middle of technolgical advancements like no other (Wonder when facebook or myspace will come in??? In high school 4-7 hours a day on facebook is what everyone spent, now it's down too....ohh 1 hour...in total if not less). I didn't even know matt had a cell untill this last chapter so it took me by surprise, either way where the hell is his google stocks at now? 1,000,000,000 yet??
someone else Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 It is now fairly clear that Wade is his father's victim, so I guess I was wrong about this plot point. Maybe I should draw on Matt's resilience to get over the damage to my pride here; he was able to bounce back from the loss of his adoptive parents very quickly. The Thanksgiving dinner scene was loaded with emotion and truth, and, as usual, well written; a genuine late 20th century horror story and now the story continues with the full ugliness of the senator's abuse of his son. I am resisting the temptation to make a prediction, but I do feel that Mark has been preparing us for something horrendous.
KJames Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 It is now fairly clear that Wade is his father's victim, so I guess I was wrong about this plot point. Maybe I should draw on Matt's resilience to get over the damage to my pride here; he was able to bounce back from the loss of his adoptive parents very quickly. The Thanksgiving dinner scene was loaded with emotion and truth, and, as usual, well written; a genuine late 20th century horror story and now the story continues with the full ugliness of the senator's abuse of his son. I am resisting the temptation to make a prediction, but I do feel that Mark has been preparing us for something horrendous. Something horrendous, huh? Hmm...Matt discovers Wade's abuse by his father on the videocam, and decides to show it to Wade...obviously Wade is terribly shocked, more from embarrassment toward Matt than anger. Matt and Wade obviously discuss the situation thoroughly, and Wade tells Matt that he coordinates his visits home to protect his younger brother from his father. At this time, Matt asks Wade if that's why he keeps 'zoning out' during sex, because he's not really 'into' it? Matt continues to ask, explaining that he really does love Wade, but wants him to be able to enjoy himself during sex, and if he's not, then he wants to help him. After discussing options, they call Stef and JP for a conference call, after which they save the video cassette and put a fresh one in the camera for the city touring that day. Matt and Wade forget about the cassette until back in Stanford, at which time they show it to JP and Stef. After careful editing, to protect Wade, a copy is made and mailed to the senator, anonymously of course. Then a chapter break occurs, which is otherwise known as a cliffie.
Ivy Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 good theory, but I don't think "anonymous" is Steph's style and JP wouldn't just send it and hope for the best. No there would definately be a list of demands attached along with strong assurances that someone would always be watching over the good senator's shoulder..... 1
Conner Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 The theory that the Senator was sexually abused as a child makes a lot of sence. I can't quote any stats but I understand that it is not uncommon for victims to become predators. If the video ever became public, the senator's goose would be cooked. He would more than likely have to do prison time. I think he would likely kill himself first. He is full of rage over his own abuse and with no outlet, that rage will turn on himself. The problem with all this is Wade would be exposed publiclly as well. As a victim, of course, but that would be extremely difficult for anyone to handle. It's all yuk.
Enric Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 ch39: uhh. puke. this is what next to everybody was surmising.... puke.
hombre Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!! I just read 39 - one word - INTRIGUE! AWESOME chapter Mark, I NEED MORE NOW!!! ARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Tiger Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 ch39: uhh. puke. this is what next to everybody was surmising.... puke. I didn't want it to be true. I really didn't. I like Wade. He doesn't deserve what's been happening to him. I think Senator Sleazeball needs to die a slow, painful death that involves castration and fire. OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!! I just read 39 - one word - INTRIGUE! AWESOME chapter Mark, I NEED MORE NOW!!! ARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!! Me too! I soooooo think it should have been a 2 for 1.
paya Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I didn't want it to be true. I really didn't. I like Wade. He doesn't deserve what's been happening to him. I think Senator Sleazeball needs to die a slow, painful death that involves castration and fire. Well we all know this won't happen. He's either going to break down and shoot himself (very VERY unlikely - but he can be a good actor and pretend how powerful master of the house is) or we can expect something along the way Nephylim described in her novella contest - father is a sneaky one (he's politician after all) and has a back-up plan. Matt, but mainly Wade and Beau are in a big danger... I only hope Beau won't already know first-handedly from the last night - Senator didn't have Wade there to "play" with. :{ 1
Nephylim Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 It is now fairly clear that Wade is his father's victim, so I guess I was wrong about this plot point. Maybe I should draw on Matt's resilience to get over the damage to my pride here; he was able to bounce back from the loss of his adoptive parents very quickly. The Thanksgiving dinner scene was loaded with emotion and truth, and, as usual, well written; a genuine late 20th century horror story and now the story continues with the full ugliness of the senator's abuse of his son. I am resisting the temptation to make a prediction, but I do feel that Mark has been preparing us for something horrendous. I hope so
Tiger Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I hope so You are truly evil for hoping for something horrible.
Nephylim Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 You are truly evil for hoping for something horrible. Of course I am WOW Mark Chapter 39 was awesome. Go JD. Can't wait for the big 40.
methodwriter85 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Oh, Wade's dad was abused as a child. Probably by his father too. Is definitely not gay, but his whole psyche is shattered. That's why he's so mean with everybody, including the voters and specially the family. He probably sees himself in Wade and cannot control what he's doing. That's probably not far off. Matt commented that Senator Danfield and Wade look a lot alike. I think maybe part of the reason why Senator Danfield wants sex with his son is because of the fact that, in his twisted mind, he's really having sex with an 18-year old version of himself.
hombre Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 That's probably not far off. Matt commented that Senator Danfield and Wade look a lot alike. I think maybe part of the reason why Senator Danfield wants sex with his son is because of the fact that, in his twisted mind, he's really having sex with an 18-year old version of himself. I don't care what the reason for it is, Senator Pervert needs to be drawn and quartered!! Now can we have someone call Alejandro?!?!?
Enric Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Knowing Mark, the next we read will be that Beau actually wants boy sex.... These stories, in my assessment, tend to have an overabundance of gays. Or -well- guys who want homosex. There's no fault in having an occasional coming out from closet, but I wd appreciate if the statistics be plausible. The numbers. Those numbers have felt relatively implausible. so, I hope that Beau is one to fulfill the hetero portion statistics. But, knowing Mark.... I fathom that Beau has no inkling that his big bro is gay. And thinks himself that he needs to keep his own interests totally secret. Having seen how his father has acted against gays. Beau could been terrified about the idea thatr his big bro finds he likes males.... So, let's see..... Beau probably has had a few other beaus from school and/or something such, in his bed thus far. And enjoys it. Quite possibly, he has also his own kink, something. Such as athlete boys in sports tack.... Btw, my experience tells that is a highschool boy has several girls, that boy is bound to be gay.... a real hetero of 14-18-yo has zero or one girl close to him, excluding relatives. Usually no more. Edited December 2, 2009 by Enric
Enric Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 That's probably not far off. Matt commented that Senator Danfield and Wade look a lot alike. I think maybe part of the reason why Senator Danfield wants sex with his son is because of the fact that, in his twisted mind, he's really having sex with an 18-year old version of himself. he should satisfy himself with sex with some lifeless toy, such as motorized dildo.... [and I am silently hoping for some malfunction of the motorized thing to electrocute him] I get a churning feeling in stomach when have to read about monsters and monsterly conduct. Why are these child-abusing monsters always f**king their kids... I mean, an occasional bottom, demanding that the kid is the one who has to penetrate, would be a funny variation.... I keep seeing the funny description about an elderly (Conner-type) Medici man in the 1700s, a bottom, who sought virile, dumb young men to take care of his backside urges.
hombre Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 .... These stories, in my assessment, tend to have an overabundance of gays. Or -well- guys who want homosex. There's no fault in having an occasional coming out from closet, but I wd appreciate if the statistics be plausible. The numbers. Those numbers have felt relatively implausible..... Spoil Sport! LOL!! (jk) No really?!? Hmm, maybe where you live, but here where I live I can spit and hit another guy who is either bi or gay, I think the supposed numbers are actually lower then reality.
Enric Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) ...here where I live I can spit and hit another guy who is either bi or gay, I think the supposed numbers are actually lower then reality. Hmm. well, that obviously happens when you live with another gay. (and I refrain from commenting on the sex habit of spitting one's significant other) also, assuming that you are having a balcony or like, to a street, such is usual -or possible- in 'gay ghettoes' - where more than half of passers-by are gay or bi. (though, spitting on them -and their fashionable clothing on the street- would not make you friends, I think) I would be amazed, were over 10% of male population actually gay. Edited December 2, 2009 by Enric
hombre Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Hmm. well, that obviously happens when you live with another gay. (and I refrain from commenting on the sex habit of spitting one's significant other) also, assuming that you are having a balcony or like, to a street, such is usual -or possible- in 'gay ghettoes' - where more than half of passers-by are gay or bi. (though, spitting on them -and their fashionable clothing on the street- would not make you friends, I think) I would be amazed, were over 10% of male population actually gay. Well I do NOT live in the "gay ghetto" as you call it, I live in Dallas proper, we were living in the suburbs for a while, and no matter where we have lived there are a high number of gay and or bi persons around. Do you intereact with people, young persons, much? I have noticed alot of younger people (ages 20-30) are identifying as bi lately, or even identifying as just "sexual" - this 10% thing might have been true once, and that is MIGHT, but I even doubt that, sure of course there are more heterosexuals and repressed homsexuals living as heterosexuals than there are OUT gay and bi people, but the active word here is OUT. Alot of persons nowadays either are not out or don't feel the need to come out for whatever reason and that ofcourse throws the actual figures off. So, stand by to be amazed!
Enric Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Do you intereact with people, young persons, much? I have noticed alot of younger people (ages 20-30) are identifying as bi lately, or even identifying as just "sexual" - yes, I believe I interact, and with many sorts of people. [and as opposed to purely selected group] I would predict that the said A LOT is a special, fashionable population, or something such - and not at all representative of any larger population. The truth is that also young people in general still today are not even willing to show gayness, even if they are gay - there are a lot of social pressure against that. So, 'advertising' bi-ness or somesuch, is a thing for a fashionable crowd. Well, numbers within young population are certainly not as high in general as you claim. As opposed to possibly a selected sample. I know a bunch of gay young, but I also know bunches of young of general population. And, in general, people known randiom and not by gay-selection, most usually are not gay. I suspect you have selected group. perhaps due to occupation or hobby or somesuch. I can understand that perhaps a clothes-seller or an hair-dresser would meet exceptionally big portion of gay-tendencied young males.... Edited December 2, 2009 by Enric
Nephylim Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 My experience in a VERY traditionally heterosexual (maybe rabidly might be a better word) backwater of hicksville, having a VERY out gay daughter is that many many more people than I thought are not only gay but openly so. It may of course very well be the case that my daughter, being gay would naturally gravitate towards other gay people but more than half of her friends are gay or bi. Having been a solicitor for almost 20 years with only one gay client in all that time I am noticing that I have far more these days... I have four at the moment. I don't know whether this is a sign of there being more people who are being open about it, or whether I am noticing it more... or something else entirely... just my thoughts.
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