W_L Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 After this earthquake, I just got a thought in my head, how much do people plan for these things in Boston? I mean, we're a coastal city with skyscrapers lining half the city and huge sections below sea-level like New Orleans. We have a nuclear power plant a few miles out near Plymouth. It feels unsettling to know that you can get caught flat footed without any disaster planning, except for running out of the house with your wallet and pray that you make it to open land in an urban area. I am going to need to prepare for some contingencies, but I wonder if anyone else has ever done disaster planning and can give me tips.
Krista Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) The 'experts' say that my region is due for a major earthquake. I'm pretty sure none of the structures, like bridges, or buildings were planned with the thought of making it through a major earthquake. They are not something people could really predict when the pressure is too over loaded to cause the earthquake. We are though better prepared for Tornadoes, with the live Doppler and the news, sirens, and phone calls. Unlike earthquakes, tornadoes are predictable based on weather patterns, air masses/pressure, and temperature. Different regions are likely more prepared... and I think if people prepare after a few disasters the better. You can learn how to react and prepare for an earthquake by following what people do in earthquake prone zones. Learn how to stay safe within a structure. What supplies would be best to keep in a secure/safe place. There are some things you just cannot prepare for though.. like the power plant, if it fails, that's not on you. That was a loss for the experts, their failure. Usually individuals and what the individual needs. Personally - I am not prepared for any natural disaster. (Slaps wrist.. bad Krista bad) Edited October 17, 2012 by Krista
K.C. Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Well, the CDC stated a while ago that if you are prepared for the zombie apocalypse then you'll be ready any natural disaster. http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/05/18/cdc-warns-public-prepare-zombie-apocalypse/
Andrea Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) When a disaster strikes, if you are uninjured your biggest problems are going to be civil unrest and a lack of clean drinking water. Food and shelter obviously come in a close third and fourth. Ideal situation is to get out of the city as they are going to be hotspots for a long time. I live with a crazy person (aka boyfriend), my house is stocked with a ridiculous amount of supplies. I even have a gas mask in my desk at work and in my car, along with my bug-out-bags. We even have a planned meet spot if I was to get stuck at work when a disaster hit and I know all the back ways (greenbelts) to get home if I have to walk the 19 or so miles. I always carry comfy shoes, coat and gloves, blankets, MRE, flashlight, water, etc in my car. My boyfriend works in the environmental industry, he sells and services all types of instruments for gas monitoring and hazard situations. He has full hazmat suits and fire suits in the basement along with respirators and re-breathers. Pretty sure I could survive a while with the items in my house and our combined knowledge. (My knowledge= 54B, chemical ops, I did this crap daily when I was USAR) Edited October 17, 2012 by Andreaa
JamesSavik Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I have been through several hurricanes and know better than to just wing it. I was without power for almost two weeks after Katrina. If you've been through that you aren't going to just sit on your hands next time. There are some fairly easy things to do that will make a big difference if you do get hit. Bug-out Bag- when you've got to grab you stuff and go at a moments notice, you don't have time to pack. You need something ready to go when you are. You can go with a backpack or something like a gym bag. http://disaster-prep.org/best-bug-out-bag/ Water/Ice- Save 2 liter pop bottles. Fill them with water and put some of them in your deep freeze. You will need water and the ice will last for days. In the event of a lengthy power outage, it will help keep food from thawing too rapidly in your freezer. First Aid- You can spend yourself broke on a good first aid kit. In the event of a serious disaster, you may have to deal with serious injuries and be on your own for some time. This is what I have: M-17 military first aid kit. Street value $100-200 The stocked M-17 has enough supplies to take care of small family for a week or two. You can spend less (or more) but it's a good, comprehensive kit. Another item that you might want to add to your basic first aid kit is a quick clot sponge. It can stop serious bleeding. 1
TetRefine Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I'm kind of pissed I missed my first "major" earthquake. I had just landed back in Philly, and as I'm walking through the terminal I get a call from my mom saying they just went through an earthquake.
W_L Posted October 17, 2012 Author Posted October 17, 2012 Matt you didn't miss much, no riots or zombies. Thanks guys and ladies for the tips. I am thinking of stocking up on dry chewable grandly or cereal bars, is that really better for disasters?
JamesSavik Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) no riots or zombies. Damnit! I can't wait to smak down zombies! Something you might want to think about. You can get a case of MREs (Meals Ready to Eat) for $70-100 bucks. Two cases will last a month. They aren't wonderful but you won't starve and will keep your energy up during a time when you really need it. After Katrina, we were out of usable food in about a week/10 days because we had no power to keep the refrigerator/freezer running. Edited October 17, 2012 by jamessavik 1
Ashi Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Matt you didn't miss much, no riots or zombies. What? It's not Raccoon City by now?
Andrea Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Damnit! I can't wait to smak down zombies! Something you might want to think about. You can get a case of MREs (Meals Ready to Eat) for $70-100 bucks. Two cases will last a month. They aren't wonderful but you won't starve and will keep your energy up during a time when you really need it. After Katrina, we were out of usable food in about a week/10 days because we had no power to keep the refrigerator/freezer running. Another recommendation to buy cases of MREs. I have three in my basement along with a bunch of non-perishable food that I keep in constant rotation.
W_L Posted October 18, 2012 Author Posted October 18, 2012 I heard canned corn, beans, and chili can last just as long as Mre. Excluding my twinkies, sugar snacks with cream not the gay kind, my back up food is 20lbs rice at the moment plus what's in fridge/freezer.
hh5 Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 mmmm canned food .... please remember to carry a can OPENER!!! lol or buy the pull open top cans ... which is rarely sold for beans its not good to waste gun ammo to open your survival food hehe 20 lbs rice ... not easy to carry a rice cooker ... car battery ... and an ac inverter
W_L Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I can turn the rice into porridge or rice cakes if I can heat it up with a stove. Rice is really easy to cooke with a little water. I just bought a few packs of iodine solution to clean the nearby water for drinking, hopefully it will be clean enough for cooking. I have a magnesium fire starter, hope it is really as good as advertised. Wish I could have been a boy scouts without all the BS Edited October 19, 2012 by W_L
hh5 Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 cool you are prepared ... but you might not want to be in the scouts after reading the recent article http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/boy-scout-perversion-files-released/2012/10/18/62c7a6ec-1940-11e2-b97b-3ae53cdeaf69_story.html now you can have some adult fun with a group of friends to go camping and try out all the survival gear stuff ( never know when the REVOLUTION on TV is going to happen ) There are somethings adults can do that scouts aren't allowed to do ... but any way scouting is much different than when introduced in the 50s BW shows I've seen a long time ago why go through years of scouting trials just to find out the leaders will deny you a merit badge for being gay. I recently signed a petition about a SF teen that's going through the problem. I can turn the rice into porridge or rice cakes if I can heat it up with a stove. Rice is really easy to cooke with a little water. I just bought a few packs of iodine solution to clean the nearby water for drinking, hopefully it will be clean enough for cooking. I have a magnesium fire starter, hope it is really as good as advertised. Wish I could have been a boy scouts without all the BS
colinian Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) I have been through several hurricanes and know better than to just wing it. I was without power for almost two weeks after Katrina. If you've been through that you aren't going to just sit on your hands next time. There are some fairly easy things to do that will make a big difference if you do get hit. Bug-out Bag- when you've got to grab you stuff and go at a moments notice, you don't have time to pack. You need something ready to go when you are. You can go with a backpack or something like a gym bag. http://disaster-prep...st-bug-out-bag/ Water/Ice- Save 2 liter pop bottles. Fill them with water and put some of them in your deep freeze. You will need water and the ice will last for days. In the event of a lengthy power outage, it will help keep food from thawing too rapidly in your freezer. First Aid- You can spend yourself broke on a good first aid kit. In the event of a serious disaster, you may have to deal with serious injuries and be on your own for some time. This is what I have: M-17 military first aid kit. Street value $100-200 The stocked M-17 has enough supplies to take care of small family for a week or two. You can spend less (or more) but it's a good, comprehensive kit. Another item that you might want to add to your basic first aid kit is a quick clot sponge. It can stop serious bleeding. Excellent advice, James. This applies to anyone who is in earthquake, flood, firestorm, snow, hurricane, or tornado country. You need one of these at home and in each car too. If you have a CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) where you live, take their training and become a CERT first-responder volunteer for your neighborhood and for where you go to school and go to work. Colin Edited October 20, 2012 by colinian
W_L Posted October 27, 2012 Author Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) Well "the day after tomorrow", the northeast will get hit by a super storm. We are not only getting hit by a hurricane, but an arctic front is also coming down. How the hell can you prepare for both things happening at once? (Please note, I was making an allusion to the movie day after tomorrow as a joke.) This is messed up, but how does a person prepare against a potentially rapid change between weather from traditional late fall cold front weather and summer hurricane. Edited October 27, 2012 by W_L
Gene Splicer PHD Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 A little tip from IT land - you don't prepare for disasters. You prepare for the effects of the disaster and the recovery from it. So - Winter storm and a hurricane combo: Prepare for: No power, limited mobility heat problems, probable property damage, maybe injured people - Have on hand for an extended period: non-spoilable foods, water, batteries, medicines/prescriptions, tarps, blankets and medical supplies - if you have a fireplace, stock up on wood, if you can get a generator, do it before the storm, and get plenty of gas for it - at least 25 gallons. - Go to the bank and get a decent amount of money - I keep about $1500 in cash in the house during the winter months if I can. - Get a battery powered radio or TV. Things to do - Move necessary prep and repair tools to hand - shovels, hammers, screw gun, nails/screws, plywood, road salt or sand, tarps and plastic sheeting, etc. - those tools don't do any good in the shed out back, move them to the house. - Charge all cell phones and batteries. Remove batteries from important devices when they aren't needed or power off the devices to keep the battery charge as long as possible. - Make sure the car has a good battery and a full tank of gas. - Put the valuables in a safe place. - Prepare the property - clear branches away from windows, clear the yard of anything that's going to blow around/away/into things when the winds hit, board up windows if you think the storm is bad enough, that sort of thing. It's all common sense stuff, really. My point is to prepare for the effects of a weather related disaster, no matter what it looks like, and you will be far better off than your typical neighbor.
Celethiel Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 by the by that bug out bag with everything in it... how much does it weigh, because many times in a disaster and especially in a situation with apocalyptic scenarios you won't have a car OR it won't be of much use if the highways are clogged... And I recall somewhere that 75 pounds is the best a human can carry over large distances. Btw W_L I hope you're prepared for Franken-storm?
W_L Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Well, we survived an earthquake before, now we need to survive Franken Storm, so all we have left is Famine, pestilence, blood in rivers, and maybe the death of all the first born Cel, can I double up with you? I promise to not use too much of the comforter and I can do your taxes
Celethiel Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Well, we survived an earthquake before, now we need to survive Franken Storm, so all we have left is Famine, pestilence, blood in rivers, and maybe the death of all the first born Cel, can I double up with you? I promise to not use too much of the comforter and I can do your taxes Lol, I have a pull out couch
W_L Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Looks like Boston will survive, it's going to strike New Jersey. Spent the last few days preparing, I'm prepared now, I got medicine, food stores, water, and several different types of flashlights. All I am missing is a weapon and then I can turn into a survivalist like James Oh well, I'll have to wait for the next plague to strike. PS: I am betting someone will call this God's punishment against homosexuals again (wink wink), but I think God like everyone else is just getting tired of "Jersey Shore" and wants to make sure MTV does not even dare to make a sequel (Snooki does not need more press) . Please note, not a religious issue or comment, just an observation that nature is offended by MTV Edited October 28, 2012 by W_L
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