Lugh

ok I'm going to give you an example from a paper copy book: c 1 p 1 c 2 p 10 c 3 p 14 c 4 p 19 c 5 p 22 c 6 p 27 c 7 p 31 c 8 p 34 c 9 p 39 c 10 p 49 c 11 p 63 c 12 p 76 c 13 p 89 c 14 p 95 c 15 p 98 c 16 p 102 and that's just the first 100 or so pages... this novel is 658 pages and has 82 chapters. It all depends on the author. Lugh

And perhaps I shouldn't.... on page 92 of Writing Science Fiction and Fantasy by Killian... it explains what a scene is, and how scenes make up chapters... I'm sure I have other sources.. that's the first one I could put my hands on.... Lugh

Not me. I'm usually so involved with where the knees and elbows are, and who is doing what to whom, and all the little details of emotion and conflict and dominance and power.... that I don't have time to consider the actual f**king part at all as sex that is supposed to make me get horny. Now when I'm re-reading it.... total different story. Lugh

Oh bullshit. The story should dictate the length of the chapter not the author. If an author is trying for uniform chapter length then he will find himself padding some chapters and chopping others to bare bones to fit some pre-defined preamiters that just isn't suitable. I've seen chapters in published works as short as two words.... and it works. Now I know that will not necessarily work for e-fiction, but there is a difference in a 'chapter' and a 'story section' too. When serializing the author is releasing a section of the story, not necessarily a full chapter, although it often is. It can be two or even three very short chapters to make up the proper line count needed for his column space (when this was actually done in print). So don't let anyone dictate chapter lenght. Let the story unfold as it should, and just do what you do best... tell the story. Lugh

who you calling a tease? this is a tease: "There is a problem with the ship's life support system, Captain, we need to put into Vega-5 for repairs. The steward is already making arrangements for non-essential personnel to be placed into hotels as space permits. I do believe your son is on that list." "Vega-5 is a moon of pure unabashed debauchery!" The Captain blanched, "my boy has lived a very cockered life." "Well, cockered or not, he can't stay aboard ship. I do believe the steward has him berthed at Mandalay Bay, which is a very exclusive hotel. He should be just fine sir."

Just a little brainstorming session here: feel free to add/comment Vacation - The act of making something legally void An official or legal cancellation Annulment The termination of a relationship Profligacy Dissolute indulgence in sensual pleasure Unrestrained by convention or morality self-indulgence debauchary Therefore, a vacation is the ultimate act of debauchary even at the cost of relationships or other binding (legal) contracts. Now what does this have to do with my summer anthology entry? I don't know yet. I'm working on a plot... but have you heard the term "what happens in vegas stays in vegas"? Lugh

H HA HAP HAPP HAPPY BIRTHDAY TONY!

Actaully what I'm against is divorce. If two people have a religious ceremony for their marriage then they should be forced to abide by the until death do us part portion of the ceremony... however if they choose to have a civil union and work out thier own contract with the government, then that contract may be broken with certain penalties. And that goes for gay, straight, or anything in between.... Just my 2 cents.

I'm helping a friend of mine put together a couple High School level Literature courses for Home Schooled kids. We are doing them secular so religious views are not a problem. Here is my challenge to you. If you had the chance to choose (a minimum of) any 30 novels in (a minimum of) four groupings (such as American Literature, World Literature, British Literature, Genre Study...) which books would you choose (and why)?

Personally, I find the listing of each poem (250 words or less) as a seperate story annoying, even if it is in a series. Poems of similar style, content, or other elements can be listed together on a page and several pages together as a story... like an anthology of poetry. To do otherwise just clutters up the site, annoys other people when they update once each two-three weeks and you post a poem three minutes later, and a few other things probably best not said on these forums. Please, if you do post poetry, do it anthology style, then start a thread to discuss your poetry with others. Thank you. Lugh

CONGRATS BOOBIES!

Ok lostone here goes: Ok, so let's hear you name all the "characters" from one of the following: 1. Old Testament 2. Sesame Street 3. Horton Hears a Who! 4. The Vagina Monologues OR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues 5. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves There now you have been educated! Lub ya! Lugh

heh just wait... you aint' seen nuttin yet....

Guilty! The person below me is a member of the mile high club.

Did I mention I love you? Thanks! Lugh

Well I can tell you how I do it for one of my stories... and mine is in 3rd person.... I just start each whatever off with the name of the person in whose POV I will be writing and it's worked out well for the story. It's consistant and the reader isn't confused. Better yet, I'm not confused -- which makes for happier readers. But you do what you have to do for your story. BTW I was once told that every rule was put there by other writers to keep new writers in their boxes until they rubbed two brain cells together and figured out how to get out of the box... hum... wonder if this is another one of those cases? Lugh

let me ask you a question.... why would you think it's a no no? do you have a book of rules for writers that I missed some where? Here is what I was told: There are industry standards, then there are the books that sell. The books that sell break the rules the industry standards set. If your story works -- ie it flows well, it's not jarring, there is plot, there are believable characters, it's well paced.... and all those other things that good fiction SHOULD have.... then who cares if it's in first person, third person, second person, or some combonation there of.. so long as the reader knows what is going on and YOU are consistant. That I think is the biggest issue... consistancy. Now why would it be better for this character to be introduced in 3rd person? How far into the story are you? (to me that makes a big difference too; don't want to be changing things mid-stream) anyway... just some food for thought... Lugh

They weren't all that hard to find before.. I mean sheesh...

Ok call me forgetful if you want, I don't mind really. However, what I need from you guys is some help... I need a cast of characters for Erebi Seeking. First and last names, who they are, that sort of thing... if you don't mind please kind people. I had one at one time, but I seem to have misplaced it. So, have at! (please?)

I do not and will not have a pirate avatar. The person below me is a virgin.

Nice chapter Vance.... even if it was a little short...

to respond to Nicko you need to go where you read the poem: https://www.gayauthors.org/eficiton/viewstory.php?sid=66 and look at the bottom where there is a little box.... and fill it in. simple as that.

you mean to tell me that you read Erebi Seeking, Water, Spirit & Space, and Cardtales and you did not say one word about them in the land of the fey? hurmph...

Hugs Nicko --- you're the greatest number one fan in Virginia in your age group!

the buddha-pest, I never said I wanted you to abdicate... Just because everything can't go your way or my way don't mean we still can't have some things go our way...